I think that is an excellent point<quoted text>
But you also say that positive energy will bring you something.
The disconnect is you wont apply those same rules to prayer.
You imply that positive energy will bring positive results but prayer wont.
The bigotry comes in because you are generalizing a group of people with your preconceived notions.
You like Ians automatically assume that prayer is asking for material things Rather then positive outcomes. i feel you do this to continue the rationalization of your preconceived notions against a group of people.
I already know that you'll deny this, but it's fairly obvious.
I would add to it that the only difference between their "postie energy" thinking and prayer is that one draws support from an outside force while another draws support from within
There is no proof that one works and the other doesn't yet they have concluded this solely based on a negative predisposition to prayer
In fact I have seen those who call themselves agnostic and atheist right on Topix tell others they are sending out "positive thoughts' for them when they are facing a tough situation or someone in the family is sick or any number of situations that one also might equally pray for
The only difference really between their "positive thoughts" and prayer is they have left the faith and therefore while still believing in the concept on a fundamental level as far as the effectiveness of such an action regardless on what force carries it out yet they don't want to associate with it so they call it positive thoughts.
Is one sending out positive thoughts that someone gets healthy any more effective than prayer regardless of the source?
Yet some continue to mock prayer while advocating positive thoughts
It is obvious to me anyway why this is