Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#484219 Feb 4, 2013
"AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yesterday as I read about people and their fruits...I kept thinking...
Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
I think most would consider the other guy's fruit as the source of the fruit flies that were swarming about.
In your opinion...
Do you think that there should have been another verse or two...
Harvest your fruit before it becomes over ripe and falls to the ground.
For once it has fallen and left unattended becomes as the fruit that fell from the bad tree.
They both will attract the fruit fly.
On as side not...we all know how pesty and how difficult it is to get rid of those annoying little buggers!
Oh well...I started out to be serious but my mind just wouldn't go there.:-) "

Good morning (((((Annie)))))) Those scriptures exist but with different wording (c:

John 15
New International Version (NIV)

The Vine and the Branches
15 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
~*~

Since: Jan 11

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#484220 Feb 4, 2013
I think you and nano should really get to know each other. You have so much in common.
Skombolis wrote:
WARNING
While I have no problem speaking my mind in front of anyone and on any subject I know sometimes it can be difficult for people to open up and some people would prefer conflict. That is ok. Different strokes
But know if you come forward on something out of conscience in front of HL or Catcher they will seek to use it against you at a later date if they ever come into conflict with you. Even if you were speaking out in defense of them or agreeing with them
oom. So just know these are theApparently they feel they a right to force others to live up to the standards they set for speaking out on what is right. And they have no problem trying to embarrass someone or force their hand so they have no choice but to either look like they are avoiding a question where some will assume it is because they are a bigot or they have to announce their position putting themselves in opposition of others.
Like I stated, for me it made no difference as it was only 2 weeks ago I stated my position and everybody in here knows it. But know the kind of people you are dealing with and don't put yourself out on a ledge if you can't do so in front of everybody in any room at any given time because people like this will use it against you.
It is sad that someone would try use another speaking up for what they think is right against them at a later date for personal reasons. And these are people who heap praise upon those who agree and gang-attack people who don't on many things so one might even feel more inclined to admit how they feel if it is going to get a good reaction. That plays no role for me with them as I have done it in every room despite the crowd but I know it is human nature at times and this is what these two are like. It is what it is. Just be aware of what it is
(T) Peace

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#484221 Feb 4, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
{{{?WHAT?}}}
So yer tell'n me that the 10 boxes of crackerjacks I threw on the ground 55 years ago 'til I finally got the magic decoder ring(that I been sav'n fer a real 'mergency) is a {{FAKE}} after them folks telled me it was fer sure real?!@#$%^&*!!{{{ARAAAAAH H!!!}}}
GIT THE GUN ALICE!!!
Was that the Born Again or Shiite decoder ring ? I was trying to get the whole set. I'm hear the Fisherman one is quite rare.
Doctor REALITY

Searcy, AR

#484222 Feb 4, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL (((((DOC))))))) I LOOK better than THEY do tho!! XO
Whatever you say,Maude,uh,I mean,Deb....Night.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#484223 Feb 4, 2013
Unbelievable, Grace Walker!

This is what I posted, to which you responded...
__________

Our anointed Savior was good. Indeed, he was perfect. But, he said what he did because it's important that we understand that regardless of how good we are, we should recognize where our goodness derives. Father is good. His law is good. His law produces goodness. And anyone that obeys His law becomes good.

Psalm 135:3
Praise Yahoweh; for Yahoweh is good: sing praises unto his name; for it is pleasant.

Romans 7:12
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

1John 3:7
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth [good] is [good], even as he is [good].

NOTE: The original English rendering of 1John 3:7 reads as such: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
__________

And here's your response to what I posted...
__________

God's grace does not depend on our efforts or works it totally depends upon God.

(Romans 9:15-16 NIV) For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."

{16} It does NOT, therefore, depend on MANS desire or MANS effort, but on "God's mercy".. Of course BLL wont believe this.
__________

In my initial post, I asked harpocrates what verses they either, agreed with, or disagreed with. Now, I'm compelled to ask you a similar question.

What, in my post, did you disagree with? Where is my error?

The least you could do is reveal, explain, and correct, my error(s) instead of opposing me with no explanation, O mature, Christian soldier.

Since: Sep 12

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#484224 Feb 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>My dear, Grace Walker...
I wish that just once, you would read the whole bible and learn it so that you can learn what it says, in context.
Romans 9 was Paul's explanation to "God's" choosing of Israel and the reason the most High showed such mercy, or otherwise, to either, certain individuals, or whole nations. He began by explaining how that Isaac and Jacob were chosen even before they had done either, righteousness, or unrighteousness. By the time we read verses 15 and 16, the same in which you quoted, he was making reference to the time when the most High decided to allow Moses to gaze upon him, but only the back of Him. Then, he gave another example as to how the most High allowed Pharaoh to rise to such prominence even though the Egyptians, in general, were an unrighteous nation. And what was His reason for raising up Pharaoh? To build up Israel! And this was Paul's point, overall. Paul was explaining how that all that occurs in man's history is to fulfill His overall intention. And His overall intention has everything to do with Abraham, Isaac, and Israel.
In the end, yes. The most High will show mercy to whomever He chooses, and otherwise. But, that's not His normal mode of operation. And that's why Paul, throughout chapter 9, was given us specific examples of this. Paul's overall point was to explain why Israel, at that time, seemed to be abandoned by the most High while the Gentiles seemed to be receiving all "God's" favor, even though Israel was still part of the most High's overall intention. But, all in all, Paul's concern was that Israel come to accept our anointed Savior. As written, Paul was even willing to sacrifice himself for Israel's sake if the most High would allow and accept it. And this takes us into chapter 10.
In chapter 10, we read of Paul explaining Israel's errors. And by the time we get to verse 19, we read of the most High's intention, again. Here, it says, "I will provoke [Israel] to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger [Israel]." And as we await the fulfillment of this prophecy, the most High will allow some to excel while others, He might hinder. But, what was Paul's overall point? Nothing that no man, or nation, can do can alter what's going to take place. The kingdom will be established! And the promises made to Abraham will come to pass!
Does this mean that the most High intervenes in all of man's affairs? Indeed, not! And in this, I offer the following...
"And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before Yahoweh. And, behold, Yahoweh passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before Yahoweh; but Yahoweh was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but Yahoweh was not in the earthquake: And after the earthquake a fire; but Yahoweh was not in the fire."
My reason for quoting the above verse is because unless we understand this, too, we'll not completely understand Romans 9.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
And what was this promise to Abraham? Answer one more thing for me please. WHY did Jesus die for you? What was the purpose? Our annoited savior was JESUS..Thanks

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#484225 Feb 4, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Cont...those who may have His teachings enscribed in their hearts and who by their actions show they live by his will that we love one another even if they have come to know him differently? can all roads go thru Christ even if we are not aware of it? I dont know. I have always said for me I believe there is no other way. I have come to know God this way therefore to turn my back on my faith for me would be to turn my back on God. But I wonder.(T) Peace
Just because we see different facets of the same gem does not mean the gem does not exist nor that each is living a lie.
To each is revealed but a glimmer of the truth.

That's how I see it. Some just see a flicker in the corner of their eye.
Knowledge

United States

#484226 Feb 4, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
god has not healed you yet?
he must be that disappointed in you
You are not a nice man, enough said. I suppose it makes you feel good to talk to someone who has been physically hurt. Shame on you. You must have a cold, cold heart.

Since: Jan 11

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#484227 Feb 4, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
I no think homosexuals should have prejudice and intolerance against them or deny they humanity.
Are you sure you know what prejudice means?
trifecta1 wrote:
What should be made clear though, is that they behavior is immoral. I no think the drunkard, adulterer or the prostitute should have bigotry and prejudice against them either, but they should know they behavior is wrong and indefensible.
I don't think you know what prejudice means.

You're judging homosexuals, drunkards, adulterers, and prostitutes right now, before you even know anything else about them. You say that their behavior is wrong and indefensible. If you believe that everyone sins, why single out these offenses? Your behavior is also wrong and indefensible, is it not?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#484228 Feb 4, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
And what was this promise to Abraham?...
1. Land
2. Nation
3. Many descendants

All fullfilled long before Jesus was born.
Please read Exodus.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#484229 Feb 4, 2013
Knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
You are not a nice man, enough said. I suppose it makes you feel good to talk to someone who has been physically hurt. Shame on you. You must have a cold, cold heart.
Karl can be a nice guy and make some really good points when he wants to.
Not sure what has him so agitated lately.

Since: Oct 12

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#484230 Feb 4, 2013
Symbolic Numbers.

Many numbers had symbolic value in the Bible.The number one symbolized God's unity.Three came to symbolize the Trinty.Seven was a number of completion and perfection since God rested on the seventh day of creation.Twelve symbolizes the month of the year the tribes of Israel and the number of apostles.Forty days or years was a common time frame in which bibical events unfolded.

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#484231 Feb 4, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever you say,Maude,uh,I mean,Deb....Night.
Yeah..go to bed already, ya said you were going an hour ago...past yer bedtime yungin!

Since: Sep 12

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#484232 Feb 4, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
Unbelievable, Grace Walker!
This is what I posted, to which you responded...
__________
Our anointed Savior was good. Indeed, he was perfect. But, he said what he did because it's important that we understand that regardless of how good we are, we should recognize where our goodness derives. Father is good. His law is good. His law produces goodness. And anyone that obeys His law becomes good.
Psalm 135:3
Praise Yahoweh; for Yahoweh is good: sing praises unto his name; for it is pleasant.
Romans 7:12
Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
1John 3:7
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth [good] is [good], even as he is [good].
NOTE: The original English rendering of 1John 3:7 reads as such: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
__________
And here's your response to what I posted...
__________
God's grace does not depend on our efforts or works it totally depends upon God.
(Romans 9:15-16 NIV) For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
{16} It does NOT, therefore, depend on MANS desire or MANS effort, but on "God's mercy".. Of course BLL wont believe this.
__________
In my initial post, I asked harpocrates what verses they either, agreed with, or disagreed with. Now, I'm compelled to ask you a similar question.
What, in my post, did you disagree with? Where is my error?
The least you could do is reveal, explain, and correct, my error(s) instead of opposing me with no explanation, O mature, Christian soldier.
Why do you always have to be so nasty when you reply to others? Is this Brotherly LOVE? You always tell me that YOU have to be perfect and I am showing you where you ALREADY are THROUGH Jesus Christ. You are fighting a fight that Jesus already won but you wont believe God when the bible tells us this all through the NT..
Thats Where I see you error!! Stop TRYING to earn what Jesus died to give you freely. Isnt that Good News? Gospel means Good News BLL

1 Cor.1:30...
God has united you with Christ Jesus. For our benefit God made HIM to be wisdom itself. Christ made US right with God; he made us pure and holy, and he freed us from sin.

1 Cor.6:11.. you were washed, you were "sanctified", you were "justified" in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#484233 Feb 4, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
why should i answer any of your questions when you have not answered one of mine?
You can't be serious. I've done nothing but answer all your questions and address all your assertions. That's why we're still continuing this discussion.
harpocrates wrote:
focus!!
Ford!
harpocrates wrote:
why would you create something in your image only to enslave it and make it subservient?
That wasn't the intention, at all. I mean, of course, Adam was given instruction, but that was so that we could live righteously and forever. Adam, though, failed. And because of that, the process began so that what Adam lost can be re-established.
harpocrates wrote:
what parent creates a codependent child and calls it health?
What person questions, tests, and tempts, another without sharing their intention/agenda, nor the basis of what they're attempting to share?

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#484234 Feb 4, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
"For those who know GOD, no explanation is necessary ~ for those who do not know GOD, no explanation is possible."
Not sure where those words came from, but they make heaps of sense to me.
GOD is within each of us, and I have no idea why some cannot feel HIM!
It's a paraphrase of 2 Corinth.4:4

Hope things going well for ya in the land below:)

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#484235 Feb 4, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Lawless?????.....
:-/

Oh dear...that was not intentional!

My bad...
mike

AOL

#484236 Feb 4, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
No- I can't. He has to do what He says He will- in order to honor the promises made to the faithful- regarding all things- also toward what heaven is like. Which He promises will house no sin what so ever.
Thanks Truths,

Are you saying a GOD always shows "Love", "Mercy", "Grace".

When people don't do want a GOD wants, can you show me where a GOD will take away love,grace,mercy?

Maybe Love,Grace, Mercy exist all the time?

Since: Oct 12

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#484237 Feb 4, 2013
Hidden Meanings in the Numbers.

In later Jewish Literature much weight was given to secret meanings hidden in the numercal values of words.In Hebrew numbers are written using Hebrew alphabet.Thus in Genesis 14:14 where Abraham had 318 servants this is seen as a hidden reference to Eliezer(the servant of Abraham, mentioned in Genesis 15:2)because 318 is the numerical value of the word Eliezer or the numerical value of both wine and secret is 70 this led to the saying when wine enters secrets are out.

Since: Mar 09

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#484238 Feb 4, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because we see different facets of the same gem does not mean the gem does not exist nor that each is living a lie.
To each is revealed but a glimmer of the truth.
That's how I see it. Some just see a flicker in the corner of their eye.
I like that analogy a lot. Especially the flicker. I think in a lot of situations things are similar where some see something clearly and others it is more of an awareness on the edges of their consciousness. I think we have a lot of senses like this and a lot of parts of reality are like that where we have the barest awareness of it but havent quite found a way to tap fully in (T) PEACE

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