Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#483942 Feb 4, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
Good Morning Everyone... can't post for too long as I will be headed to the gym shortly.
I didn't watch the game last night but heard it was "purty" good! Uh... Catch!? smile.
:)
Good morning Qu, you did miss a good one, much as I dislike the 49ers they are no one to play around with at all and with Colin Kaepernick that will be a force to deal with for years to come, the Ravens put on a powerful performance and still barely escaped.

Blessings.
mike

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#483943 Feb 4, 2013
Truths wrote:
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He chooses too- His mercy and grace also provide truths to the non believer that they do not like. He does not lie- and honors His biblical promises.
Thanks

Can you point-out where a GOD doesn't show "Mercy","Love ", or "Grace"?

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#483944 Feb 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You're emasculating "Skom" - making him appear weak. Here it is in his own words:
Skombolis wrote: "HL and I have never so much as had a cross word and given her "little brother/big brother" relationship with IANS it is clear she is simply running to his defense. I don't think she has considered how weak she is making him look to be that she feels it is necessary."
I do not feel the need to defend your simple minded opinion.
What I said,stands as is as stong today as it will tomorrow.God bless you.

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#483945 Feb 4, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Today's Prayer
Dear God, Today I come to You, bringing prayers for my neighbors before Your throne. I don't know what each and every one is going through right now, but I know that each has their own hurts, challenges, problems, needs. I know that some are grieving, whether over an errant child, a lost job, the death of a loved one or something else; some are lonely; some are lost and need the Savior; some are ill and need healing and comfort; the needs go on. Please help me to know what to do to be a good neighbor to them. Give me opportunities to reach out and share Your love. I pray that the Holy Spirit will minister to each one and meet their spiritual needs. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.
Prime Time with God
Amen.
mike

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#483946 Feb 4, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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That is a popular belief.
Others say God isn't obligated to do anything at all.
Reality seems to back up the latter.
Hello G o D

I agree with reality.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#483947 Feb 4, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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You now my position as I have discussed it in length in several rooms with you and several times coming to your defense when many Christians wouldn't touch that
subject. So since you know my position I can only assume you and Catcher keep asking in here hoping to cause division. While I am not worried about backlash
and will maintain to anyone we have no right to single out sins or to show hate I do think that is pretty unethical of you
Next time you wonder why more Christians don't speak up you may want to look in the mirror and remind yourself that you will try to use it against them at a later date.
I find it stunning that a situation so personal to you would be sacrificed for a personal agenda. I guess if people want to make it harder on those who try to speak
their conscience on what they think is socially moral behavior as far as how we treat others and make it harder on those who speak out against prejudice that is your
decision.
.. yes, I've always known your position. Renewing the inquiry was for Catcher's edification ..

.. causing division? It's possible. Let me mull if over ..

.. it would be interesting to know why Catcher wanted clarification ..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

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#483948 Feb 4, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>They BELIEVE the provable right? I believe you have said so yourself on another thread.
Science does not prove atheism... Atheists just use the very small part of science, Evolution, in attempts to justify their own beliefs in atheism. Other than the
evolution theory (which is yet to be proven), science and atheism are 2 very different things.
Science as a whole is neutral. Now I do think that Atheists and other "neutral" scientists (who are neither atheist or creationist) help to keep science neutral.
Otherwise you might have young-earth creationists who would insist that the earth is only 6000 years old.
But evolution, that small part of the whole, is a theory that is simply wrong. But if you want to go there with science, then prove that God does not exist using the
scientific method and we can have further discussions on the matter, or NOT! Smile
.. if you choose to reject evolution, you must reject all scientific disciplines ..

.. proving no-God is impossible via the scientific method because there is no tangible evidence, only belief ..

.. why knows? God may be at the control switches, turning DNA on and off at His pleasure. Conversely, science may someday prove a strictly emergent conscious. The burning question remains, "Are science and religion compatible?" ..

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#483949 Feb 4, 2013
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Well, let me put it to ya like this...
Suppose there was a person or a group of people who judged and belittled that very prodigal son (because of their lack of knowing and understanding the working of their god in him) to the point that he simply committed suicide in it's wake because of it...effectively rendering that effort and outcome of god's intention void.
Who is deserving condemnation and everlasting torture end hell?
Now, do you really think anyone on this planet is all knowing and capable of making and acting on their inept ability to know what god thinks and wants?
Anyone who does is a fool and a blasphemer....and thinks they are above their god.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Well, you might be correct on some points.
Point is, all too often men think they are all knowing about god and presume to make judgments on his behalf, and they can cause more harm than good even though they think they are doing his will. Men can never "know" anything of the sort and place themselves in jeopardy through their own inept ability and arrogance.
It would be far more appropriate to let god do his own bidding, lest one become like those who were responsible for the atrocities we have already witnessed throughout history such as the inquisitions etc. They started with the same arrogant misconceptions and inept ability to "know" the thoughts of god by those who become fools that wantonly usurp that god's position, believing they are something more than they actually are, which is mere men.
Just wanted to tell you that I thoroughly enjoyed reading these posts, and 100% agree with what you are saying.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#483950 Feb 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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"It sounds like you might be seeing god in everything the way somebody wearing blue shades sees blue in everything. And you're not alone. Millions or billions of people see the same thing you do. But millions or billions of us just scratch our heads and wonder why you see a god in what we see as godless. How can we decide who is seeing reality and who isn't?" http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
I believe that this question can be answered. Would you or anybody else like to try?
I know that you wanted a response from a Christian perspective...but you did say anybody. I am an anybody! LOL

I believe that people "see" not only what they want to "see" but also what they need to "see" in life around them.

I try to wake up in the mornings with a positive attitude it helps set the tone for my day. One morning however I got up and the first thing that hit me was a negative thought...I couldn't shake it. So I went and sat on the porch to watch it rain...the negative thoughts persisted...until...

Suddenly I noticed the raindrops hitting the surface of a puddle. They formed these perfectly shaped circles that soon dissipated once again leaving a perfectly smooth surface. For me...it was as if I had found my solution to my negative thoughts...they come...ripple the surface...then dissipated back in to calmness.

Yes...the actions of the raindrop interacting with a mud puddle can be explained away through science...yet again for me...that takes away from the lesson that I learned that morning. It would have taken away the mystery of life...the romantic side...the specialness of the moment.

I refer to that moment as "finding God in a mud puddle". Was it God...some higher power...the Great Spirit of the sky. I don't know but for that moment...it was a message...it was what was needed.

Before you say that I am strange...I know that...and I am okay with that.

My own son thinks that I am strange at times...but there was a moment in his life...that for a brief time...that he understood me.

Some need the facts backed by logic...some of us need the mystery.

There are cooks that go strictly by the recipe...some of us just throw in what ever we can find and hope for the best!

Some of us even make art out of ant hills. LOL

I am not sure this is the type of answer that you had in mind...it is however my explanation of why and how I "see" sometimes things that others might not "see".

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#483951 Feb 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I guess you told him already. I'm pretty far behind.
Hey that okay,I just tie a cord of love on you so you do not get lost from the rest.God shall bless me for bring you right long too cause he loves you too.I say to God I brought this one home cause did not want the wolves to eat him.Even thro he is a bit dirty from what the nasty world handed him a good cleanin he be just fine.Never fear when you fall that far behind for you see that what happens to the good,bad and the ugly.God bless.

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#483953 Feb 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Really? OK. No, I never felt that way.
Now please tell me what that has to do with my claim that Christianity allows one to not apologize if they are so inclined.
You claimed Christians don't have to care about the people they hurt because they can just ask for forgiveness from the sky.

You say you never felt this way when you were a Christian

Ergo you know that isn't an honest picture you are trying to paint

Believing God will forgive someone does release them or responsibility or caring about the person they hurt. And it stands to reason if they want God to forgive they would care about what they did, just like you used to when you were a Christian

That I have to explain to you what the problem is here just proves my point

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#483954 Feb 4, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. yes, I've always known your position. Renewing the inquiry was for Catcher's edification ..
.. causing division? It's possible. Let me mull if over ..
.. it would be interesting to know why Catcher wanted clarification ..
So you are saying you were asking on Catcher's behalf despite asking me once already since you got here and receiving an answer and already knowing my position from other rooms?

Do me a favor, when acting on behalf of other poster's let me know. I generally assume when someone posts to me they are doing so on behalf of themselves.

I know Catcher has been around for a long conversation in which I explained my position in Prove There is A God so it will be interesting to see what his reasons are. You never thought to ask him before asking me on his behalf? Seems like a strange thing to do. Especially on such a charged topic that I have gone out of my way on before to defend what I thought was right. Well I am sure you will let me know why you were asking on his behalf when you find out

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#483955 Feb 4, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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You claimed Christians don't have to care about the people they hurt because they can just ask for forgiveness from the sky.
You say you never felt this way when you were a Christian
Ergo you know that isn't an honest picture you are trying to paint
Believing God will forgive someone does release them or responsibility or caring about the person they hurt. And it stands to reason if they want God to forgive they would care about what they did, just like you used to when you were a Christian
That I have to explain to you what the problem is here just proves my point
Edit

Does NOT release them FROM responsibility or caring about the person they hurt
tim

Denpasar, Indonesia

#483956 Feb 4, 2013
God is love.God does not like to punish us, he is our loving father. He wants us to be safe, successful and happy, he is our loving father. He does not want us to beat ourselves up over minor misdemeanors everyday we do something just a bit wacko. he made us after all. Everything we do and think is planted from his ideas and ideals. Ok there's a bit naughty in us all so what.? He planted it. Haemorhoids, tapeworms,cancers, he's got some strange ideas too. There's plenty of bigger evils in the world going on that we are not involved in, he's our big daddy, its his responsiblity and he's busy working to fix everything thats really bad. Just hold your course, think happy, think good, say sorry if you goofed, say thanks for all the good. Empathy, sympathy, charity, forgiveness, courtesy, manners, cleanliness, honesty, loyalty, humour, humility. These characteristics are what our father wants to see in us. We are human, not saints, angels or gods. Amen.

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#483957 Feb 4, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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How cowardly.
Your Jesus would be ashamed of you.
You constantly cause division here, but when it comes to prejudice....
Are you kidding

Someone knows my position in which I have come to their defense on and they want to use doing the right thing and bring it up in here knowing others don't feel the same way just to cause to division and you will defend that?

You are just the kind of man I would expect that would follow someone around Catcher

Like I said, next time anyone wants to complain why more Christians don't speak up, they can remind themselves of people like you and HL. People who will intentionally use the knowledge that someone has gone to bat socially against conventional religious beliefs to try to cause problems for them in front of other believers because they are mad at someone

Unfortunately for you guys I don't care what others think. But you may have helped silence others in the future. You should feel proud

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#483958 Feb 4, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Irony meter go BOOM!
LOL

Circling the wagons to reply to a post when I say you guys do just this

And "irony meter" yeah that hasn't been played out for 3 years!

Sorry I don't need to gang up on people, I can hold my own just fine. I know you guys need to rush to each other's defense. I would imagine being wrong a lot increases the need:)

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#483959 Feb 4, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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hi Skom,
I wasn't referring to you in general.
It amazes me thst every time Drew posts, there are people who
come down on him pretty hard.
I see in him a spirit of Love and one that wants ALL to succeed.
I do believe his knowledge and intellect intimidates some here,
and that is the reason they feel they must discredit him.
(human nature and all..)
I know I have been put in the category of the OSAS posters..
I think there is a problem when labeling people.. I do not
believe once we are "saved" we can go on and commit all kinds
of wrongs against human kind.. I do not believe those who believe
OSAS are saying this either.. it's, for me, once God is in your heart, He isn't ever leaving.. I believe we can take that to the bank.
So, the people who want to waste their (everyone's) time
condeming other peeps to hell,well, I believe that's just a waste of time..and, a shameful way to represent Christ.
And, btw Skom,:) if you want to talk about being silly,
how about you taking on that challenge of keeping quiet for ten days..lol.
Wow!
Was happy you saw the light there.
Keep on keeping on ,my friend..
:)
I read all your posts and am thankful you are here!
Thanks Lele

While Drew and I have had our issues I would like to think it is "all in the family" so-to-speak

Being frustrated is very far from animus and I am glad the post was not specifically about me and that people can see the distinction. I have always thought Drew is a knowledgeable guy and a nice guy. One of the few that manages to stay even keel on a regular basis. So I definitely am not judging him as a person. Simply wish the approach to this situation was different

And yeah to that other situation, not sure what I was thinking but finally saw it for what it was!

Good to see ya

(T) Peace

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#483960 Feb 4, 2013
Edit catcher

And if you don't understand the difference between division being the result of standing up for what you believe in and intentionally trying to cause division then it explains a lot

But like i said, I think I know all I need to know about you now.

It takes a real special kind of someone to try to use someone standing up against prejudice against them

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#483961 Feb 4, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Are you kidding
Someone knows my position in which I have come to their defense on and they want to use doing the right thing and bring it up in here knowing others don't feel the same way just to cause to division and you will defend that?
You are just the kind of man I would expect that would follow someone around Catcher
Like I said, next time anyone wants to complain why more Christians don't speak up, they can remind themselves of people like you and HL. People who will intentionally use the knowledge that someone has gone to bat socially against conventional religious beliefs to try to cause problems for them in front of other believers because they are mad at someone
Unfortunately for you guys I don't care what others think. But you may have helped silence others in the future. You should feel proud
You are no different from cowards who didn't speak out, and still sometimes don't speak out, against racism, for fear of disapproval from their social circle.

Skom, you need to develop a backbone; character; integrity. You need to be able to take a stand for what you consider to be right, without fear of what others may think.

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#483962 Feb 4, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Why do you think that I am vested in you? Because I respond to some of your posts?
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Yes

When you respond to a half dozen or more of someone's posts every day when they were not to you or about you I would say that makes you vested. In fact I am the only poster in this room you do that with.

Again that I have t explain these things to you makes me just question your integrity all the more

You know exactly what you are doing, just like with the "asking the sky for forgiveness bit", yet you feign ignorance. Another way of describing that would be dishonest. And this from the guy always purporting how much more moral others are than Christians. You need to clean up your own backyard before you can go around putting other faiths or religious books on trial.

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