BLL, what I meant by twisting things.(and you do)<quoted text>And you're really bad at accusing me of things I haven't done, don't do, or won't do.
<quoted text>And I never even implied anything different. I'm well aware of His discipline and His reasons for disciplining us. But, you'll have me believe that just because a person gets disciplined by "God," then that's it. It's the strait and narrow from then on out. But, as I know, that's the furthest from the truth. I mean, yes. That's the preferred outcome, but such a result is not guaranteed.
Might I suggest the same that I suggested to Grace Walker. Read the bible more. And as much as you can, try to learn it by heart. This way, you might remember more verses than only those you believe proves your case. For example, it's written, "Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die."
Point #1: The corrected, in this verse, forsook the way. Therefore, we can most easily conclude that at one point in time, or another, the corrected was in the way. But, because they forsook the way, correction became grievous to them.
Point #2: Correction became grievous to them, therefore we can easily conclude that they came to hate correction, or reproof, as it's worded. And as it's written, the one that forsakes the way and comes to hate correction and reproof will die.
And now, this brings us to Hebrews 12:5-11. I suggest you pay close attention to what's written.
"My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby."
I suggest you not ignore that "God" deals with us as His children if we endure His correction. And what's the expected fruit that's expected by "God"? Is it not righteousness?
<quoted text>Did I say anything about a person that committed one sin and died? Or, did I ask about people that return to a sinful lifestyle and don't repent before they die? There's a major difference between what I asked and what you just said.
<quoted text>That's exactly what I said. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? If I had died before I repented and while I was still engulfed in my sins, I would not have been saved. Saying "Lord, Lord" is not enough to be saved. It's written, "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil...Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."
..you said I contradicted myself when I said they were still saved but there would be consequences or they would be disciplined by God., if they died in their sins...if they BELIEVED before their onset of SINNING.
You have to have TRUST in GOD. FAITH, without seeing HIM, CONFIDENCE in His word. You can't just READ the Bible, and memorize it, You have to FEEL the word.
Even though I BELIEVE that once I accepted Jesus into my Heart, He will never leave me or forsake me or deny me my Salvation, God will still Repromand or discipline me for doing wrong!
We know a true Christian by their fruits they produce, many scriptures are there for us on this....out of space