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#483297 Feb 2, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians do not feel that they can do anything they want to, period. Those feelings left us in the 'old man' we were.
We now (the new man in us) feel we have been Forgiven of our sins.
We don't want to do those bad things.
But IF we do, then we have the confidence that God forgave us even before we did it. He knows our Heart, our intentions.
Respectfully you did not answer what I asked. If you don't want to that is ok.

But if you do just to clarify

Is there any action or actions you could do that would prevent you from being saved? And if so what would they be?

If not then yes you do believe you can do anything you want and still be saved. Whether you would is a different matter. But you do believe you could. At least that is what OSAS says. Whether you do I don't know

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#483298 Feb 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
You aren't a fool. Just see think differently. <smile>
I'll accept that. Thanks.
G_O_D wrote:
The way I read it, God 'thought' of creation then did it. That is the only way I can read John without it being a blasphemous rendition of Genesis.
I really don't understand what you're referring to, here, as far as blasphemy is concerned. As I've always understood it, John was trying to explain to the Israelites who Yahowshua really was and from whence he came. "God," being the Almighty, need not do anything. Instead, His only-begotten Son fulfilled all He commanded. I believe that when "God" said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness," that it was His only-begotten Son that He was speaking to. Explain to me more, though, why you feel John blasphemed, please and if you will.
G_O_D wrote:
I also see it as an ongoing process. God thinks then does.
At risk of being burned at the stake, that's how I believe the creation account took place. I believe that there was only one moment of creation, actually, then everything else happened as a natural process. I believe Moses only recorded it as he did to give glory to "God." I can explain it further, but I'll hold off on that for now.
G_O_D wrote:
Note that I do not understand God as having these qualities in a human sense of the term. IMHO that would dimish the Creator and make him no more than a pagan deity.(no offense intended)
No offense taken. I appreciate man's efforts at trying to better understand "God." But, if you mean "human attributes," I actually believe otherwise. I believe that as we're created in His image, then they're not our attributes, after all. We're sharing the attributes that originated from "God." I'm left breathless when I consider just how similar we are to the most powerful being in existence.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#483299 Feb 2, 2013
Senecus wrote:
<quoted text>
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Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#483300 Feb 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
???? You have lied in this post quite a bit Steve- I do NOT put down others in posts- and dozens of people have not done what you said. I know I am no perect but my heart is always on healing others.
Best of luck to you.
<quoted text>
.. ooopppsss ..
.. you're defending ..
I am not putting him down-I am stating something he has truly done~

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#483301 Feb 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew is one of my favorite Disciples ~ that is what I noticed.
JESUS was sent to us by GOD, for a purpose of helping us, and JESUS also knew what HE was getting in to.
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
We have debated Scriptures before G, and of course, we do not see eye to eye. I don't want to get into any argumentative debate, I am just grateful JESUS cared enough to come, with LOVE.
I am grateful he lived and died as a Ben'Adam.
I do not feel that his death was neccessary to fulfill Leviticus though. That noose hangs solely around Pilate's neck and no other. Not the Jews and certainly IMHO not God's.

I do not believe that God ever required a human sacrifce.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#483302 Feb 2, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny and interesting!
Why do people fear a GOD?
I am not sure. I often think they are unsure about their proclaimed beliefs about the afterlife and/or their fate within those beliefs.

I just accept that death is real. What comes after is anyone's guess.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#483303 Feb 2, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello, thanks for the reply.
According to this post of yours makes me think you're a regular poster under a different name.
Anyway, just because you post something nice doesn't give you a pass on a foolish post, at least not with me.
A poster with open-air prayer is trying to "look" holy.
look at her posts from yeasterdaay she is not new
only stupid without of brain jumping after 2 posts aginst me and she is now defeated who she is at all under diferent grey box

my custom of my daily work doesn't allow me to reveal who she is or they are,
also I only tell you,because you are old same poster know me good

good night Mike

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#483304 Feb 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion, politics, death penalty, abortion, criminal justice system. Those are the 5 mos polarizing issues in society today IMO. It is hard to discuss even with friends at times. With strangers it can be darn near impossible. It does happen. But much less successfully than the other way around
(T) Peace
In person though, we can still be friends even with differences.
I try to make a point of hugging my friends after a heated discussion.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#483305 Feb 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
And it actually didn't even cross my mind that people are regularly talking about me on FB so there is nothing I am paranoid about
The reason I thought this situation originated from Topix is I had not seen Deb and Grace talk on Topix but it appeared as if she was speaking out in defense of some of things I said to Grace and normally people defend those they are friends with. As it turns out Deb said it did have to do with Grace and others but that she didn't know the posters personally she was defending
Grace said she is part of a group on FB with many posters from this room. I know Deb is part of a group on FB with many posters in this room. I simply assumed the two groups were the same and they knew each other from FB
I was reading your posts and Graces posts back to you here at topix. She is new to the page at FB - but I have only just met her .
I have not seen your name discussed at FB- and do not play favorites- IF you scan your memory- you will recall MANY here at topix that have called me the "topix police"... because I stand for GOD and what HE wants from His "children"- not what I WANT- but WHAT GOD expects from people who publically claim to be His- and then they discredit God by misbehaving and giving non believers more ammo to use as to why they do NOT want to be Christian.
You could learn a lot from Rider and other non Christians if you would "HEAR" them when they tell you WHY they do NOT want to believe in Christ.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#483306 Feb 2, 2013
Knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL Were you planning to sell popcorn? All of that excitement....woe......wasn't prepared for that. LOL Although I knew he wasn't an American.....he is a rag head that hates all women and apparantly the men....maybe he has got the message.... American grandmas won't take no guff ! LOL I am a Christian, but I believe in my country and I love all of the Americans in it, whether they are black, white yellow whatever....if they are an American we stand side by side and set our differences aside. At least most of us do....LOL Sorry, I have had enough excitement for one night. You have a good night.:)
NITE!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#483307 Feb 2, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>....I really don't understand what you're referring to, here, as far as blasphemy is concerned. As I've always understood it, John was trying to explain to the Israelites who Yahowshua really was and from whence he came.....
If he put it in his own words that would be fine. Instead he rewrote the Torah to comply with his own beliefs.

That is an unforgivable sin according to the very Torah he took it from.

I am trying to figure out how to lessen his crime.

Since: Mar 09

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#483308 Feb 2, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not putting him down-I am stating something he has truly done~
No I have not. You most certainly have gossiped negatively about others. And you deny the verses you posted had anything to do with OSAS because then it would show your rebuke was not proper and you can't ever admit that. And you claim you intentionally chose to rebuke me publicly because privately didn't work despite us rarely ever t-mailing according to you s you must not have tried very hard and then that is just admitting you did it publicly because you felt doing it front of others would be a factor and that isn't the proper way to rebuke. And then to defend that you had to make a false claim about never gossiping about anyone for another reason why you didn't even try private first. can't you see how many things you will keep denying no matter how obvious just to tell yourself you are 100% right?

Have you ever been wrong in how you rebuked someone in all your years on Topix?

I am guessing you will still say no. How that doesn't give you something to ponder is hard for me to understand. But instead you tell yourself and then believe whatever you need to in order to keep that true in your mind.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#483309 Feb 2, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>... I'm left breathless when I consider just how similar we are to the most powerful being in existence.
I am left breathless when I consider how much we AREN'T like God.

<smile> <hug>

Since: Mar 09

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#483310 Feb 2, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>

You could learn a lot from Rider and other non Christians if you would "HEAR" them when they tell you WHY they do NOT want to believe in Christ.
Debra

C'mon

I am not responsible for why someone left the faith before they met me and no man is responsible for someone abandoning their faith. Or at least certainly never because of something like Topix

And it is these kinds of posts when your rebukes go off the track because of your personal feelings but you will never see it with the mind-set you have now thinking you have a perfect record of always rebuking the right way for the right reasons
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#483311 Feb 2, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>I appreciate the apology, but that's not what I meant, that you thought my posts were unworthy of answer. What I meant is that there's more times than not that certain points, assertions, and verses, that I make and quote aren't addressed, and I feel they're being purposely overlooked and ignored. Then, I can't but wonder, "Why?"
<quoted text>And there's the issue I'm referring to. Quite often, I'm accused of the same. But, rarely does anyone show me either, how I'm wrong, or you're right. Then, to top it off, most of the time, I allow the verse to speak for itself and don't include personal commentary and/or interpretation.
<quoted text>I can't completely agree with you. I've had many discussions with "Jehovah's Witnesses," and it was I that controlled the pace of the discussion. But, as to your view of them as being a cult, what makes your view so different from how the Roman Catholic denomination feels about the "Protestant" movement? You say they're a cult, but can you prove that?
<quoted text>Most, if not all, do.
<quoted text>You see? More evasion.
I explained that these were leaders of their own congregations. At one point in time or another, they must have attended at least one bible college in order to obtain such a prominent position in a "church." At one point in time or another, they must have accepted Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior. Then, at one point in time or another, they decided to engage in immoral acts while hiding their sins from their congregations. And all of these that became public spectacles didn't repent until after they got exposed. Now, the question is simple.
If they had died before they repented, would they have been saved? Remember, before they repented, publicly mind you, their hearts were into adultery and fornication while they were hiding their sins from their congregation.
<quoted text>According to who? Paul, Jesus, Moses, or "God"?
<quoted text>The "hypocrites" I'm talking about were all over the news. They were publicly humiliated. And the fact that they led congregations tells me that they must have accepted Christ as their personal Lord and Savior at one point in time.
<quoted text>And if that's the case, will they still be saved if they die without repenting, having at first accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals...
If they had been truly saved by the blood of Jesus Christ (accepted)
If all the scandels and heresies were proven to be true

If they died before they repented to God,

Yes-they would still be SAVED in His saving Grace.

But you can LEAD a congregation (even be a minister or paster)
and STILL have never Accepted Christ into their lives, or been born-again. You can go to church every Sunday- and STILL not accept Christ into your Heart,- you can call yourself a Christian, an STILL not be one.

Remember Satan is a Father of a lie and he lies.

Ps-

Fro all I have dealt with and read on Jehovah Witness's doctrine-Yes they are a cult. The answering questions that I was talking about, was in their Kingdom Hall services (their church)the speaker ask their congregation questions and they have thier Watch Tower books ready to answer, not their Bibles.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#483312 Feb 2, 2013
simplyput wrote:
When you Correct someone , you might need to be prepared ,to be perfect yourself in every way.
Perfection is not a requirement. Our anointed Savior said, "FIRST cast out the beam out of thine own eye; AND THEN shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." His lesson was that we not be hypocrites, correcting someone about transgressions that we commit ourselves. And I didn't.
simplyput wrote:
It seems they watch you like a hawk for you to mess up, and you possibly could, in the exact same way they did.
Of course, I could. But, that doesn't mean to sit by and watch someone backslide just because I might commit the same sin some day. It's also written, "Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him."
simplyput wrote:
That is why a 'good friend, will just be a good listener.
And it's also written, "Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful."

For the record, the "wounds" I dispensed were for good reasons. The person I corrected was composing some excellent posts that made much sense, and I didn't want what they were sharing to be overshadowed by the foolish things they were also posting. That was my second reason. The first is because it's necessary that we correct one another so that we can repent. Love for one another should compel us to be bold during such instances, and to do what's right.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#483313 Feb 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I am grateful he lived and died as a Ben'Adam.
I do not feel that his death was neccessary to fulfill Leviticus though. That noose hangs solely around Pilate's neck and no other. Not the Jews and certainly IMHO not God's.
I do not believe that God ever required a human sacrifce.
let me mention very old ancient copies of originality of genesis creation of 1 bene Adam and after almost 11000 return same 1 st BeneAdam as 2Nd Bene Adam to make spiritual redemption of all souls destined by predestination before creation of this humankind

Also if you follow this
garden of eden was realm were 1 beneAdam conversated with God,
1st beneAdam receive earthly joy- women so called in amcient hebrew,
precious animal of this earth- given to 1 beneAdam as wife,to cause humankind population and fulfill eternal 1st Plan in time until the phisical death of 1 bene Adam and comming same beneAdam but as 2 beneAdam redemption for those souls who God alone made own DNA CHOICE ADOPTING THEM TO HIS HEAVENLY SPIRITUAL FAMILY OF ETERNAL LIVING REALMS

not whole mankind is under Grace, or not christian churches goes to heaven at all
only chosen diamonds and jewels of this globe limitted number have full right to enter heavenly realm-new goverment 14400 of new heaven and new earth

I hope you understood my symantics and sense of this GODS PLAN USINE 1ST AND 2ND BENEADAM TO FULFILL ONLY ONE GODS NOT CHANGABLE PLAN OF ALL UNIVERSES

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#483314 Feb 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure you think the Guard at Buckingham Palace is the Queen, too.
Queen of England according to Christians:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
This no have anything to do with what we discussing. you arguments against Paul is just mythical nonsense you make up in your own head. factual history papers and reports from Church history, European History. the bible, educators and universities document Paul as a Jew.

And all you can do on this billboard is write you delusions and fantasies about Paul. HAHA har. The laugh is on you G_O_D.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#483315 Feb 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Religion, politics, death penalty, abortion, criminal justice system. Those are the 5 mos polarizing issues in society today IMO. It is hard to discuss even with friends at times. With strangers it can be darn near impossible. It does happen. But much less successfully than the other way around
(T) Peace
Growing up, I've always heard that religion and politics were the "taboo" subjects. And of course, in most bars I frequented, there was an unwritten rule that religion and politics was not to be even thought while there. I don't remember when, but I know that at one point in time I realized that, perhaps more than anything else, it was these two elements that caused the most division throughout the world. And then, I began to wonder, then why not talk about them? How else will we even begin to put an end to all the division? But, then, I remembered. Men are brutish. Especially religious men.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#483316 Feb 2, 2013
Just Wondering wrote:
Epi, Qoin Deb, HFN, and everyone else, hope all is good in your world.
RMD, if you're reading along, sending good wishes to you too.
Peace and pesky squirrels,
JW
((((((JW))))))))) Peace to you dear sister!! Hoping all is well <3

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