I know you were not talking to me, but since this is a public forum I felt that I could share this with you, if it would help. This is what I live by... Galations 2:19(some would consider you are living under the old law on this, but I find it not so)19)For I though the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. Gal. 20)I am crucified with Christ:nevertheless I live;yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21)I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousnes come by the law,then Christ is dead in vain.<quoted text>I think as I do because that what it seems, to me, that's implied when you say that once you're saved, you're always saved, with no chance of ever losing your salvation.
I understand that no one comes to Christ intending on continuing in willful sin, but to say it doesn't happen is utter foolishness, because it does. And it has. And when I call to remembrance those so-called "pastors" and "ministers" that got exposed in some sort of on-going scandal, just like the Roman Catholic hierarchy did, you and Grace Walker just sweep it under the rug, as if ignoring it makes it go away. Neither of you has answered my questions, though, as to whether these hypocrites will still be saved? My question was: If any of these hypocrites died before they got exposed and repented, would they still be saved? Keep in mind that up until the moment they got exposed, they preached every Sunday. They still led their congregations. They still claimed to have the Holy Spirit. They still claimed to be saved by the grace of "God." They still carried on no differently from any other time until they got exposed as a sinful hypocrite.
Interestingly, the "once saved, always saved" doctrine runs almost parallel with the "universalist's" views.
Now, you said, "I cannot see at all WHY they think that we (OSAS) feel that we have said ( a LIE) that we can do ANYTHING we want and still be saved! This is simply not true, and any of these people that have said we believe we can do anything we want and still be SAVED is a LIAR (this is blunt, but this is a fact!)"
Well, now we have an issue that needs be addressed.
If you don't feel that you can do anything and still be saved, then by what principles are you subject and under? I ask, because you would have to be subject to and under some sort of principles if you can't do anything and still be saved. And as to these principles, from where do they derive? From within yourself, or "God."
Galations 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
I believe that in Galations5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16) This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17) For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18) But if ye be led of the Spirit,ye are not under the law.
19-20 speaks of many sins and if you do them you are considered under the law. If you do commit those sins and repent if you mess up, you will still inherit the kingdom of God.25) If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.26) Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
Galations6:1Brethren,if a man be overtaken in a fault,ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness: considering thyself lest thou also be tempted.
I believe that scripture speaks for itself.Brethern is a Christian, not one who has never accepted Christ as his Saviour."Over taken in fault,which would be sinning. You as a Christian are to bring them back and help them be restored. If they can not be or will not be restored they have fallen from grace.