Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#482985 Feb 2, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Ya know...I will never think of DR again without thinking about a mule!
Did you watch that video that Senecus posted about a man and his mule? YIKES!!!
This wasn't your son,was it??: http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/man-dies-afte...
Knowledge

United States

#482986 Feb 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
Becuase your mind to to much occupied by mules and other animals,
just stop think about mule, only try to plant GODS WORD IN THIS MULE PLACE
I may have had differences with Annie in the past, but she is not occupied by a mule. You sir, have no concept of God, nor heaven. Your mind has became so involved in hell and demons and demonic forces they have taken over your own mind. Your ramblings do not even make sense half of the time....I believe you should look at your name, and follow the advice of a shrink near you. You need peace in your life, and it is clear that you do not have any. You are on a road to destruction, it is clear. You are trying to make everyone think that you are worshiping God, "Jehovah", but you are worshiping "Allah", that is your first mistake, lying. You may use the bible for part of your belief, but you are adding to it, the Quoran. That is what a false prophet is....someone who is misleading. Your journey for 40 years has made you go a little off the path. I am certain with some help...you will find peace. If not, your are on the path of a homicidal maniac . Now, for one to make that type of accusation, it is time to look at ones self and reread some of the ramblings you have written. Hope you can find some help.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#482987 Feb 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
I am going to try to include no fighting as well
Obviously like a few posts i just made there is really no way not to explain one's self but I think a good rule of thumb would be no insults and not repeating the same point over and over again. Someone can explain why they may or may not agree but do it civilly and then move on.
I think along with that we ALL need not be so thin skinned at times. That is something that I have worked on...trying to remember that what is said is by anonymous strangers that don't know the whole of us.

I emphasized "all" because I have seen most everyone over react to statements made. I realize that we are ALL passionate about some areas but really...does it truly matter what anyone thinks?

While I am at it...I have read the posts exchanged between you and Deb...almost posted about is...decided it wasn't my battle and to stay out of it. I will continue to keep myself removed from it but just had some thoughts in general.

I don't think there are many...if any...that hasn't posted about someone in a tmail. I don't make a practice of it but readily admit that I have. I no longer do when I realized that I didn't know who I could trust since there was so much talk about info being passed along.

I think there are times that we all need to be able to vent...often times if done in private it prevents the ugliness being posted and the back and forth battle ensuing. Eventually what I have said in private usually gets said directly here by me.

I think I will stop at this...I always have more but really...do I always need to post it? Nah...probably not...LOL

Doctor REALITY

United States

#482988 Feb 2, 2013
Touche' Mr. Poohsey Caht!!!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#482989 Feb 2, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
REVELATION Study
I. Rev 1:11 Part 11 cont.1 (bridged with Rev 2:10)
Rev 1______/TTTTTTTTTTTTT\______Re v 2
II. Jesus: "Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, THE DEVIL will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life." Rev 2:10
**********
1. The Devil - Appearances
A. Many people have this image of the devil in their minds. Perhaps a heinous "looking" creature after it went from holy angel to demon (fallen angel). Some may have an image of bat wings, red eyes, a red body and concaved horns... but actually, the bible describes it in its original state as a thing of beauty. As a matter of fact... the former holy angel is a created being which was created with beauty and an intelligence to choose right from wrong. Obviously, it chose another direction and failed. It has been already judged and the verdict given it and it's demonic followers an appointed time to be forever punished. Now God didn't create the devil or sin... and satan can't create anything... the devil simply "perverted" the good things which God created. Like say you created something with good purposes to benefit humanity... but some people came along and took what you created to kill and harm people with. That example is on a simple scale but it is pretty much the same scenario of what happened heaven. If rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.. then witchcraft was first performed in heaven by that former holy angel and it's followers. Anyways, the picture of evil that you have of the devil in your minds... whether it is from a horror flick or your worst nightmare... is pretty much what the devils' hearts are like. If we were able to see them outwardly we would probaly see a thing of beauty outwardly. And that is where the deception lies... the devils can make something sinful look beautiful and that is, in part, how the former holy angel sold the heavenly insurrection to it's followers. And because those angels are judged and expect to be doomed... they have nothing to lose except revenge in taking as many down with them. Why don't they just leave us alone? I'll get into it later but the former holy angel wanted to be "like God" (it wasn't acceptable) and God turned around and made mankind "like Him" (that is, in the image of God)... so in part, a lot of it has to do with rage and jealousy... The devil sees in you what it wanted to be when it was a former holy angel, that is, he sees God's likeness in us. Anyways, the mandate of the kingdom of darkness is to deceive you by any means necessary and keep you uninformed about the of The Living God. It'll even use unsuspecting churches (who are not attuned to the will of God) to do it's bidding in a worshipful sense... that is why I call OSAS a demonic doctrine... it is simply deception. satan makes sin look beautiful and the right thing to do... it can make things that are dark and evil in God's sight look like light and good to you. That is why,(speaking from biblical-perspective) Christians who accept the notion of homosexuality, witchcraft and other different ways to God... are already deceived and are doing the devil bidding... now I'm not saying that one can't love those who are in sin or that God doesn't love them... I'm just saying when we become accepting of it we are shoring up the kingdom of satan.
* Apostle Paul: "And no wonder, for SATAN himself masquerades as an ANGEL OF LIGHT. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve." 2 Corinthians 11
Good morning Quin,
I understand what you are trying to say but what I dont understand is what gives you the IDEA that a osas believer WANTS to go out and sin willfully? That is not true. We all sin daily so how is yours any different? You arent making a valid point at all. Cheers..
Doctor REALITY

United States

#482990 Feb 2, 2013

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#482991 Feb 2, 2013
Jesus Friend of sinners we have strayed so far away
We cut down people in your name but the sword was never ours to swing
Jesus friend of sinners the truth's become so hard to see
The world is on their way to You but they're tripping over me
Always looking around but never looking up I'm so double minded
A plank eyed saint with dirty hands and a heart divided

Oh Jesus friend of sinners
Open our eyes to world at the end of our pointing fingers
Let our hearts be led by mercy
Help us reach with open hearts and open doors
Oh Jesus friend of sinners break our hearts for what breaks yours

Yeah...

Jesus friend of sinners the one who's writing in the sand
Make the righteous turn away and the stones fall from their hands
Help us to remember we are all the least of these
Let the memory of Your mercy bring your people to their knees

Nobody knows what we're for only against when we judge the wounded
What if we put down our signs crossed over the lines and loved like You did

Oh Jesus friend of sinners
Open our eyes to world at the end of our pointing fingers
Let our hearts be led by mercy
Help us reach with open hearts and open doors
Oh Jesus friend of sinners break our hearts for what breaks yours

You love every lost cause; you reach for the outcast
For the leper and the lame; they're the reason that You came
Lord I was that lost cause and I was the outcast
But you died for sinners just like me a grateful leper at Your feet

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/casting_cr...

Read more at http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/casting_cr...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#482992 Feb 2, 2013
For the record btw I believe I was wrong about thos last situation being connected to FB. I have heard from Grace and heard from Deb and they both said it did not originate there. I assumed it had and was probably wrong. But I have been told on quite a few occasions that the private communications on FB are not better than Topix and in some cases worse. And i guess because of that I kind of resent the implication that gets made a lot like FB is where the better Christians go. Everybody has issues. Many people gossip. And yes is would seem that people who use the FB public forum have a peaceful thing going on there and I am sure it is easier without everybody having access to the discussion. But I have seen even other threads on Topix that are just slightly out of the public path that people openly gossip about others. I simply do not believe several people have lied to me and that nobody uses private options on Facebook in which to talk about people here. If whoever is reading this, if you are not one of them then take nothing personal from my post as it is not directed at you

(T) Peace
Knowledge

United States

#482993 Feb 2, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice to meet you Knowledge....Sounds like God has your back....
You live in Saluda South Carolina..and it has alot of snow and ice?...It must be in upstate by the mountains of NC
Have a Blessed day
No, I live in Southern, Illinois. My internet service just puts me in South Carolina. Yes, God has never let me down. Nice to meet you too. Have a blessed day also.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#482994 Feb 2, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Okay. I went back to read what it was I posted. And here was the discussion...
__________
<quoted text>Oh, I have confidence, alright. As long as I know I'm making a valiant effort to fulfill love while I endure on my trek. But, if I don't, I'm sure my confidence will dwindle away, just like my chances of being saved for eternity. So, in that, it's my healthy fear that reminds me that I never want to fall into the hands of our appointed Judge- the same that can destroy both, body and spirit. But, as to becoming perfect? I'm going to try with all my being, just as we were instructed. You can take the lukewarm path if you want to. That's on you. Don't say you weren't warned, though.
__________
And there it is.

Now, I answered accordingly, because you said if I didn't have confidence in MY salvation, NOT the salvation of "God"! I DON'T have confidence in MY salvation, because I know I can lose it if I don't......I'm not going over this again. It's up top.

My confidence in ME BEING SAVED will dwindle if I'm willingly disregarding what's expected of me, as a believer.
BLL, you knew what SALVATION I was talking about, don't act like you don't. EXPLAIN what you meant by what you said "MY salvation'
Do you have your own salvation.

I definitly was talking about GOD"S Salvation through JESUS CHRIST.

Then you actually repeated here what I asked you. NO! you did not answer accordingly to . You still say that your confidence will dwindle if you willingly disregaurd what is expected of you.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#482995 Feb 2, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
I think along with that we ALL need not be so thin skinned at times. That is something that I have worked on...trying to remember that what is said is by anonymous strangers that don't know the whole of us.
I emphasized "all" because I have seen most everyone over react to statements made. I realize that we are ALL passionate about some areas but really...does it truly matter what anyone thinks?
While I am at it...I have read the posts exchanged between you and Deb...almost posted about is...decided it wasn't my battle and to stay out of it. I will continue to keep myself removed from it but just had some thoughts in general.
I don't think there are many...if any...that hasn't posted about someone in a tmail. I don't make a practice of it but readily admit that I have. I no longer do when I realized that I didn't know who I could trust since there was so much talk about info being passed along.
I think there are times that we all need to be able to vent...often times if done in private it prevents the ugliness being posted and the back and forth battle ensuing. Eventually what I have said in private usually gets said directly here by me.
I think I will stop at this...I always have more but really...do I always need to post it? Nah...probably not...LOL
LOL

Hey I openly admit I have gossiped about others. Sometimes it was for the need to vent. Sometimes it was simply to avoid a public fight. And sometimes it was just out of spite. But what I can say is I don't t-mail anything I wouldn't say in a public forum. Of course there is next to nothing i won't say so I probably have an unfair advantage there!

But it just goes to my point. Nobody is perfect in private conversations. Nobody is perfect in rebuking.And i think it is sad that to maintain the idea that they are was worth calling someone a liar that is not one. I have many bad characteristics. One of my good ones is that I am truthful. I will say what I believe or think or feel and take the repercussions. Had i been unfairly gone after in to my way of thinking in almost any other area I probably let it slide. And in part need to let a lot more slide because as you say, these are at the end of the day anonymous forums. And yes while we have made friendships or even know some people in real life the truth is 99% of the posters on Topix will have exactly 0% impact on our real life so why get bent out of shape what a name on the internet thinks about us?

Topix is a strange animal and one that needs to constantly be put in perspective. At least for me anyway

(T) Peace
Knowledge

United States

#482996 Feb 2, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Knowledge,
Its been awhile. Sorry to hear about your accident but I am glad hear you are recovering well. It's been a little lonely on here without having you to "argue" with..LOL Just kidding! We made our peace a long time ago. Get plenty of rest and I hope the pain goes away really soon. God Bless You Knowledge
Thank you.:)
Doctor REALITY

United States

#482997 Feb 2, 2013
Check out that brown 2013 Lexus LS600 hybrid. Ain't that thang SWEET?!

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#482998 Feb 2, 2013
simplyput wrote:
Justify-- To demonstrate or prove to be just, right or valid. To declare free of blame (absolve).
To free a human of the guilt an penalty atached to a grievious sin,(use of God). To dmonstrate legal reason an action is taken.
Syn--- justify, warrent,
to show to be reasonable- The emergency does not
warrent (justify) all of us buying guns.
Protect---- To keep from being damaged, attacked or stolen, to gaurd. To assure payment (by siting aside funds. Sports-- to attempted to hold by playing careful plays to avoid risky plays.
Syn-- gaurd,cover for, hold, lookout, immunize, mothproof,insure
Defend- To make or keep safe from danger. To be responsible for gaurding. To support or maintain , as by argument or action. To represent a defendant
in a civil or criminal matter.
Syn- protect, gaurd, preserve, sield, safe gaurd
'Bought a dog to protect (defend) the children.
Justify, protect, defend -----Very similar in meanins.
,
They just happen to be the words that HL used...for whatever reason. Can't speak for Steve but I just went with HL's words since it was her challenge.

If it had been mine...I probably would only have used the word "defend". Not sure what I would have used in the place of "justify" and "protect".

To me...at least IMO...though the words might be similar in meaning...I think that possibly to each of us the might represent something different...at least here in the Topix world.

These would my meanings of the words...

Defend...Standing up for my beliefs and my opinions

Justify...Giving reason for my actions and behavior

Protect...This one I think has multiple meanings for me. Mainly however I look at this one as "protecting" my rights to express my beliefs and opinions.

Notice the difference between my version of protect and defend. One is for the actual belief/opinion the other is to protect the right to express them.

What HL's definitions are...I don't know...but this is how I saw them.
Knowledge

United States

#482999 Feb 2, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
Jesus Friend of sinners we have strayed so far away
We cut down people in your name but the sword was never ours to swing
Jesus friend of sinners the truth's become so hard to see
The world is on their way to You but they're tripping over me
Always looking around but never looking up I'm so double minded
A plank eyed saint with dirty hands and a heart divided
Oh Jesus friend of sinners
Open our eyes to world at the end of our pointing fingers
Let our hearts be led by mercy
Help us reach with open hearts and open doors
Oh Jesus friend of sinners break our hearts for what breaks yours
Yeah...
Jesus friend of sinners the one who's writing in the sand
Make the righteous turn away and the stones fall from their hands
Help us to remember we are all the least of these
Let the memory of Your mercy bring your people to their knees
Nobody knows what we're for only against when we judge the wounded
What if we put down our signs crossed over the lines and loved like You did
Oh Jesus friend of sinners
Open our eyes to world at the end of our pointing fingers
Let our hearts be led by mercy
Help us reach with open hearts and open doors
Oh Jesus friend of sinners break our hearts for what breaks yours
You love every lost cause; you reach for the outcast
For the leper and the lame; they're the reason that You came
Lord I was that lost cause and I was the outcast
But you died for sinners just like me a grateful leper at Your feet
More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/casting_cr...
Read more at http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/casting_cr...
I know that I have been off for awhile, but I have a question for you if you don't mind...What is Dr. Shrink? I read some of his posts and he sounds like a muslim, now I went back and he has some writings sounding like a confused Christian. I know we all have our different outlooks on some things, but just trying to figure this person out. He has not given me a straight answer of his belief systems....or am I missing something? Thanks.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#483000 Feb 2, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Good morning Quin,
I understand what you are trying to say but what I dont understand is what gives you the IDEA that a osas believer WANTS to go out and sin willfully? That is not true. We all sin daily so how is yours any different? You arent making a valid point at all. Cheers..
I cannot see at all WHY they think that we (OSAS) feel that we have said ( a LIE) that we can do ANYTHING we want and still be saved! This is simply not true, and any of these people that have said we believe we can do anything we want and still be SAVED is a LIAR (this is blunt, but this is a fact!)

OSAS---- We have confidence in that Jesus Christ died for us , so that we may LIVE.

When we are Saved through the blood of Jesus Christ , WE ARE SAVED!

After we are SAVED, and if we go through some tough and trying times, going back and in DOUBT----

'It is THEN that HE carries you through' Jesus will never give you up . or givep on YOU (us)

Do I hear an Amen??????????

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#483001 Feb 2, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
I cannot see at all WHY they think that we (OSAS) feel that we have said ( a LIE) that we can do ANYTHING we want and still be saved! This is simply not true, and any of these people that have said we believe we can do anything we want and still be SAVED is a LIAR (this is blunt, but this is a fact!)
OSAS---- We have confidence in that Jesus Christ died for us , so that we may LIVE.
When we are Saved through the blood of Jesus Christ , WE ARE SAVED!
After we are SAVED, and if we go through some tough and trying times, going back and in DOUBT----
'It is THEN that HE carries you through' Jesus will never give you up . or givep on YOU (us)
Do I hear an Amen??????????
"feel that we have said ( a LIE) that we can do ANYTHING we want and still be saved!"

If nothing you do can cause you to lose your salvation how is that not the same as being able to do anything you want and still be saved?

Can you clarify then? If you don't believe you can do anything you want and still be saved, what are some of the things you can't do?
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#483002 Feb 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
For the record btw I believe I was wrong about thos last situation being connected to FB. I have heard from Grace and heard from Deb and they both said it did not originate there. I assumed it had and was probably wrong. But I have been told on quite a few occasions that the private communications on FB are not better than Topix and in some cases worse. And i guess because of that I kind of resent the implication that gets made a lot like FB is where the better Christians go. Everybody has issues. Many people gossip. And yes is would seem that people who use the FB public forum have a peaceful thing going on there and I am sure it is easier without everybody having access to the discussion. But I have seen even other threads on Topix that are just slightly out of the public path that people openly gossip about others. I simply do not believe several people have lied to me and that nobody uses private options on Facebook in which to talk about people here. If whoever is reading this, if you are not one of them then take nothing personal from my post as it is not directed at you
(T) Peace
I do not understand you. Paranoid much?

If you are so WORRIED about what people say about you, call you, or how they answer your questions, or say about you, or wonder about you, or they owe you an apology , or don't believe the way you believe,or say the things you do, or talk to your enemies on here that have been mean to you, or haven't reprimanded them like they have you.!

Why in God's name are you on TOPIX?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#483003 Feb 2, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Well...HL...I expected the rules to be much tougher than this.
I think for me...I will add in "no fighting".
In the end what do all the fights here mean anyway. Rarely do they change anyone's mind and only succeed in further division. I rarely get in to any long arguments anyway...after about 2 or 3 posts I am usually done.
I think my rule will be...if it is not a civil conversation on both sides...then I will not participate.
.. if that works for you, go for it !!..

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#483004 Feb 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL*
Topix is a strange animal and one that needs to constantly be put in perspective. At least for me anyway
(T) Peace
I think keeping it in perspective is something that all of us need to do a better job at...myself included.

Okay...here goes some of that stuff that I probably shouldn't post...but...oh well.

I think for me at least there are somethings that cross the line in a place such as this. Sadly I probably have been guilty of all of them at some point.

I find it discerning when two people discuss someone else in their exchanges...it is like talking behind their back...knowing that the person will read it. I don't know why that rubs me like it does. I think it is why I try (don't always succeed) to say what I have to say directly to that person.

The next thing that I abhor...is making statements about someone when there is no evidence to prove it. We all might draw conclusions but we don't have any evidence. I think it is done just to discredit regardless of whether it is factual. Ex: Someone accused "G" of assaulting his daughter...no factual information...just garbage that was made up. Darn...I hit the ceiling over that one. I still have no respect for the person that said it.

The other thing that comes to mind...dragging up people's pasts and what they might have said or done years prior. You know how I feel about that...things in the past...should stay in the past. If one has recognized their errors and corrected them...who are we to continue to make them pay that price. This includes dragging posts up from the past and using them as a weapon...just to try and control the other person.

What it comes down to it...if the only way that we can build ourselves up is to tear others down...doesn't say a whole lot about us...or maybe it does.

It is always easier to see these actions in others than it is in ourselves. There are times that I cut way back on my posting at Topix...it is usually when I see something in myself that I abhor in others. It isn't pretty!

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