Why Should Jesus Love Me?
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#482260 Jan 31, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>First, does your definition of a "true child of 'God'" equate to that that's written? And have you ever considered that just because a "true child of 'God'" wouldn't want to be nasty and abrasive to anyone, that that doesn't mean they won't be, or aren't?
<quoted text>Without the law, how do you discern between righteousness and unrighteousness? Without the law, how do you know what's right in the sight of "God"?
Here's a question for you...
A very attractive married person invites you to their house after telling you that their spouse is out of town for the weekend, and makes it known that they wish to have relations with you. Do you go, or not? If "Yes," why? If "No," why not?
No I am not saying a Christian would not BE nasty to a person sometime, we all might goof up and say things we don't want to...we are NOT perfect! and can't be perfect---but to say we planned or WANT to be nasty to a person, we don't---but it COULD happen BLL!

It is commen sense to KNOW what is RIGHT and WRONG, even to an atheist, a non believer! even without the LAW.

The answer to your (somewhat cooky question) is Absolutely NO.

Wy? 1. Because the woman is Married
2. Just because they want relations with me- doesn't mean I would want it with her.
3. It is wrong as a Christin and wrong even if you are NOT a Christian.

A lot more reasons, but this will have to suffice.

The Holy Spirit will guide you in RIGHTEOUSNESS and UNRIGHTOUSNESS .

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#482261 Jan 31, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
was Jesus a Jew?
The famous one? I don't know if he was a real person.
Counter_Strike wrote:
Based on burial techniques of certain 'cave me' it suggest ritualistic burial and worship.
I'm not sure what you want me to do
Counter_Strike wrote:
is there any evidence of homosexual Neandertals, orangutans and gorillas?
Probably. Why ask me? Let me Google that for you:
http://lmgtfy.com/...

Look at that. I guess the answer is yes.
Counter_Strike wrote:
Yes the church caused problems, and butchered many for thinking outside of doctrine or church orders, but there were secular and pagan forces also working against the church who were just as bad
I doubt it.

But even if we stipulate to that, is that something to be proud of - not being the absolute worst, only tied for it?
Counter_Strike wrote:
only much of the time they were not as wealthy and well equipped as the church to carry out genocide in several instances.
Then they weren't as bad, were they?
Counter_Strike wrote:
You also fail to realize that I'm not a Chrtistian
You are to me.

Since: Sep 12

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#482262 Jan 31, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> There are no free passes in life. Be it a believer or a non believer. Be there a god or no god. Everything one does in one's life is scaled. Either you affect your environment positively or negatively, and that effect is then returned to you as well as spread as effect throughout that entire environment...So it is to everyone's advantage to do one's best to maintain a positive asset to all there is.
Hi BT..Very well said. How is Jibber? I took my Macaw to the vet and had her beak and nails done. Now I can let her climb on my arm without hurting me. She laid an egg the other day..She needs to have a visit with Jibber :)

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#482263 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>It has always been this way. some of the ppl who would rebuke me or RA for responding the Jaws 1 out of 20 times couldnt make it themselves more than like 2 or 3 of his posts without responding. He just rarely focused on anyone but John and myself. Just like I have seen ppl regularly turn a blind eye if it is a friend or someone with like beliefs. Are there times i come down harder on ppl I dont like? Of course. I just am not in denial about that. People like to see themselves as very r8ighteous but could never live up to the standards they expect of others.And again that may be true for me at times too..and I admit that. It is the hypocrisy i find sickening more than anything and I guarantee if tmails and private chats were publically accessible most these ppl would never rebuke again(T) peace
Exactly, and combining what. I said with what you just said is all in one nutshell pretty much with me.

Since: Mar 09

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#482264 Jan 31, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Romans 2:14..
So, when "Gentiles", who do NOT have the LAW, instinctively do what the law demands, they are a law to themselves even though they DO NOT have the LAW.
CAN YOU READ SKOM????
anyone who is NOT a Jew..is a Gentile..How are you going to argue this one
Yes I can read. I also can see. One of the things I see is a pattern. and you use this inflamatory, arrogant tactic regardless of what verse you are discussing. Whether I agree with your interpretation of this verse is irrelevant. What is the problem is you regualarly tell anyone who disagrees with you on any verse that they are blind, are calling God a liar, are a pharisee, are of the devil, dont trust in Christ, dont trust in the sacrifice, dont have faith, etc. You are a cancer to honest, truth-seeking Christians wishing to engage in productive scriptual debate or discussion

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#482265 Jan 31, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
The red teddy bear is an appropriate icon, seems to scream rebellion.
Really? What does Hello Kitty say to you? Serial killing?
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs16/i/2007/126/2/...

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#482266 Jan 31, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> That is a joke "doctor", and you constantly display your ignorance. Let me ask you something.......... how much wine or how many beers do you drink randomly or regular, do you play the lottery or numbers, do you frequent strip clubs or bars? It wouldn't surprise me if you do any of the above.
iyai! you is on quite a high horse, you writing is almost as arrogant and haughty as the freethinkers on here.

How we know you is not a thief or hate you neighbor? because you happen to write it on a billboard? you seem very determined to undermine the jesus follower because he say he is a jesus follower and you no like what he write. I never know Jesus gave up his throne to you. That news to me.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#482267 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Simply Put....you are a hypocrite. every post you have made to me has been argumentative and condenscending. And since you kept repeating this verse and saying there is no other way to understand it then of course I have to question how you harmonize the other verses because if we went just by that verse then repenting, being born-again, the Holy Spirit, etc wouldnt matter. So yes there is more than one way to understand that verse. One way would be to see it as part of a whole and simply one requirement needed for salvation. You emphatically stated salvation is not conditional yet I showed you all the verses with "if" which denotes conditional and you still have not addressed them. But I am moving on. you have not given me any reason to think you want an honest discussion since you have made at least 20 negative posts about me and i never even replied to a post of yours until this last one because of that and that is why I wont continue now
It really irritates you for someone to show you the truth, then you start calling them names. The truth does hurt, skom .

You are wrong, I have always said You MUST BELIEVE in the Lord Jesus Christ---that is the condition! You MUST go through JESUS.

You are a very negative person to even have a good discussion with.
Everything anyone says to you is WRONG and you want PROOF, No one wants to give just their opinion to you because you either can't read their post right or you take it the wrong way. Grow up!

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#482268 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Yes I can read. I also can see. One of the things I see is a pattern. and you use this inflamatory, arrogant tactic regardless of what verse you are discussing. Whether I agree with your interpretation of this verse is irrelevant. What is the problem is you regualarly tell anyone who disagrees with you on any verse that they are blind, are calling God a liar, are a pharisee, are of the devil, dont trust in Christ, dont trust in the sacrifice, dont have faith, etc. You are a cancer to honest, truth-seeking Christians wishing to engage in productive scriptual debate or discussion
And YOU call anyone who doesnt agree with you, Ignorant, blind and a joke...SO WHY is it alright for YOU to be say hateful things to someone and then whine to everybody when the same thing is done back to you?? Its a little hypocritical of you, and you have been doing this since you came on here. If you want someone to treat YOU with respect, try giving some. If you dont like my post, scroll on by..STOP replying to my post. Its quite simple.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#482269 Jan 31, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> That is a joke "doctor", and you constantly display your ignorance. Let me ask you something.......... how much wine or how many beers do you drink randomly or regular, do you play the lottery or numbers, do you frequent strip clubs or bars? It wouldn't surprise me if you do any of the above.
I've NEVER been to a bar,or a stripclub,no,I don't play the lottery,I haven't smoked a cigarette in over twenty years,and I haven't had any alochol in over elven years. So....what's your NEXT 'dumb question',and or accusation??
Doctor REALITY

United States

#482270 Jan 31, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> That is a joke "doctor", and you constantly display your ignorance. Let me ask you something.......... how much wine or how many beers do you drink randomly or regular, do you play the lottery or numbers, do you frequent strip clubs or bars? It wouldn't surprise me if you do any of the above.
Just ANSWER the question!

Since: Mar 09

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#482271 Jan 31, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Exactly, and combining what. I said with what you just said is all in one nutshell pretty much with me.
(T) PEACE

Since: Sep 12

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#482272 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>And a perfect example in one sentece why this room is often a joke. and from someone who says all of Christ's teachings apply to her until you show her the post she made claiming the opposite. And from a person who sayys the gospels were for the Jews then takes verses from them for why she believes OSAS. it would still be a joke even if she was knowledgable and honest. That she isnt just makes it that much more baffling. But this is how many topix Christians think the proper way to debate scripture is. Sad that
Have you read your post to people? YOU are the most self centered, hateful, argumentive poster on this thread Skom. I can see why you are always so baffled. You dont have to believe in OSAS..WHY does it bother you so much that others believe this way?

Since: Oct 12

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#482273 Jan 31, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> There are no free passes in life. Be it a believer or a non believer. Be there a god or no god. Everything one does in one's life is scaled. Either you affect your environment positively or negatively, and that effect is then returned to you as well as spread as effect throughout that entire environment...So it is to everyone's advantage to do one's best to maintain a positive asset to all there is.
Hey Captain;

Excuse the bouncing in on this conversation.I would like express a opinion.It is not often I find a post with this much insight and understanding.It not often I find someone who is interested in keeping creation in it natural order.As well as enjoying the progress of mankind.And putting in all in one world and one post.
Thank you is most pleasant to read such a post.

Since: Sep 12

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#482274 Jan 31, 2013
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
It really irritates you for someone to show you the truth, then you start calling them names. The truth does hurt, skom .
You are wrong, I have always said You MUST BELIEVE in the Lord Jesus Christ---that is the condition! You MUST go through JESUS.
You are a very negative person to even have a good discussion with.
Everything anyone says to you is WRONG and you want PROOF, No one wants to give just their opinion to you because you either can't read their post right or you take it the wrong way. Grow up!
DID he just call you NAMES?? OH NO!! Not the great Skumballs. He just contradicted himself AGAIN!! But dont call him names, He will whine about it for days..
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#482275 Jan 31, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Who is this Christian that is "standing up for righteousness in the sight"..........Doc Reality with all his nasty accusatory posts aimed at others?.........is thst whom you are defending Simple, eh?
The whole OSAS doctrine is ignorant Simple because it is unbiblical and you are just as ignorant to believe in it.
Did I say I was defending DOC or even SHRINK for that matter!

I have only talk to him One time and that was not on a spritual matter. He has not talked to me in any way disrespectable.

But I am not on here to judge what or why people talk the way they talk, but that STILL does not say that he is not a Christian.

If you don't have CONFIDENCE in your salvation (OSAS) then continue to try to be perfect for your pastor.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#482276 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
The reason myself and others argue against OSAS doctrine it is espouses after literally as little as perhaps a minutes of belief one could technically spend the rest of their life murdering and rapikng and they would still be saved.
That's one reason that the rest of us argue against the Christianity. It espouses that after as little as a minute of belief, one could spend eternity in heaven despite a lifetime of murdering and raping.
Skombolis wrote:
We remain responsible for our actions.
Not if you demand forgiveness from the air for them. You don't even have to apologize. You just forgive yourself.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pQMxmwlL_Bo/T7UYGQ2...

Since: Mar 09

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#482277 Jan 31, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
Its a little hypocritical of you, and you have been doing this since you came on here. ost. Its quite simple.
Like I have stated...the conversations do tend to devolve rapidly when someones opening salvo is to tell someone they are of the devil. And like I have explained repeatedly of couse the natural reaction to that might be for someone to say if anyone is of the devil it is you.. Now I personally wont do that but I will call someone ignorant when they have shown their ignorance. Especially when dealing with a braggart with no possible justifiable reason for their arrogance who tells ppl they are of the devil. You contradict your own claimed beliefs from one post to the next. But make no mistake it is you that takes these conversations to the gutter and I do scroll by much of ur garbage. What I dont do is play like "cant we all just get along" while being as insulting and confrontationakl as possible. I find you to be manipulative and dishonest.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#482278 Jan 31, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
DID he just call you NAMES?? OH NO!! Not the great Skumballs. He just contradicted himself AGAIN!! But dont call him names, He will whine about it for days..
LOL!-- the TRUTH really hurt him!.

You know the old old saying

'sticks and stones will break the bones but words will never harm me'

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#482279 Jan 31, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Both and all. This thread is a perfect example of the mountain of conflict involved. Why, is there an "expert" believer? Even that would not suffice. I would prefer to talk to the horse's mouth, rather than the other end.
In lieu of that option, one can only read the item(s) and apply knowledge and common sense...something I have noticed is often supplanted by willful ignorance and narcissistic arrogance.
.. it seems many posters resort to fear-inducing threats to inspire others to believe as they do. This may convince a coward to believe
but has absolutely nothing to do with the search for truth. It’s difficult to see anything spiritual in threats of eternal damnation ..

.. are believers receiving divine guidance from God or their ego? It’s only natural that those who believe they have a direct line to the Almighty would feel superior to others. Does this explain the egocentrism ??..

.. even the labels are disparaging. They're the "elect," the "chosen," the "righteous," God's people. If you don't believe as they do, you're a heathen, demon-possessed, queer, non-Christian or atheistic communist ..

.. please don't think I'm singling out Christians. This thread is a microcosm of Palestine and reflects the ensuing carnage when two competing sects of "God's people" collide. It would be quite amusing but for all the suffering it causes ..

.. we can do better ..

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