“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#482043 Jan 31, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
are you feeding the hungry, clothing the nacked,love your nighbour?
Do you understand spiritual saying of our Lord Jesus Christ
do you know what is SPIRITUAL FOOD TO FEED HUNGRY?
WHAT IS SPIRITUAL CLOTHES TO CLOTHE NACKED?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND SPIRITUAL AND PHISICAL OBEDIENCE TO THE GODS SPIRITUAL LAW?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE TRUE GOSPEL?
But if people believe in VAIN?like you try to tell them?
FOR SURE THERE IS NOT YOUR SENTENCE,ADVICE,CONDEMNATION OR ASSURANCE THAT IS IS SO?
Spiritual food is a whole lot cheaper than real food.

Same for spiritual clothing.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#482044 Jan 31, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
My problem with Paul and the Gentile Church is that they didn;t have the courage to dissociate completely with Judaism. Had they pitched the Hebrew Scriptures and just created a pagan religion around Jesus I would accept their honesty.
As I understand it, its founders originally saw Christianity as a new sect of Judaism, and promoted it exclusively with Jews. Christ was presented as a messiah in fulfillment of Judaic prophecy.

Later, they decided to expand their market and preach to the gentiles. What could they do at that point? Drop the messianic references? Paul dispensed with Judaic law, but not the Hebrew prophecy. He must have thought that he needed it to sustain what they had built up at that time - that a complete severance would threaten the existence early church.

What do you think?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#482045 Jan 31, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
After all, IMHO the myth is just a vesel to communicate deeper truths. IN fact, the entire story from Gilgamesh to Revelation could be 100% fiction and it could still provide a "spiritual truth" and even further, could have provide a more coherent and understandable mythological framework.
If you have an abiding intuition that there is a deep truth that you can know better, and consider the Christian bible mythical, why bother with it? Why not meditate directly on (or with) the mysterious element - the deep truth - and dispense with the revelatory traditions altogether? There is no faith required to do that.

You seem to imply that faith and a religious culture help you in your pursuit of that deeper truth. I thought it was a distraction in my pursuit of spiritual truth.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#482046 Jan 31, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. Batty, quite interesting comments you made there. Do I know you from some other thread? Somehow I don't think so. Is it right to also assume that you're either an atheist or the gay?
Makes me wonder now; what's your reason for being here.
CS.
I'm atheist, but not gay, not that there's anything wrong with that.

I'm here because I marvel at the level of insanity that prevails in this supposedly modern world. The obstinate refusal to accept modern science in favor of ancient texts and the insistence that those ancient texts are more valid than current knowledge.

It makes me wonder that we can even function as a nation.

And it frightens me that so many in positions of power can remain so willfully ignorant.

Turkey is the only country that has a higher percentage of its population that doesn't accept evolution.

That is embarrassing.

We had people running for president of the most powerful nation in the world who literally believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old. THAT is truly frightening.
naas

Williamsburg, KY

#482047 Jan 31, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Our anointed Savior said, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Peter wrote, "But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy." And finally, the author of Hebrews wrote, "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit."
You truly don't know anything about the son of "God." It's rare to witness such foolishness from someone that claims to be a believer.
<quoted text>Are you out of your tree?!
He was teaching us how to defeat sin by revealing to us where sin originates! If we remove lust from our hearts and minds, we'll never commit adultery!! And how do we remove lust from our hearts and minds? With prayer, and replacing such an unrighteous thought with a righteous thought!
You have got to be kidding me right now!!! What a cop-out!!!
<quoted text>And THAT explains it!!
You asked me why I stopped going to "church"? What you said was one reason. Because you so-called "Christians" are destroying the world!!! You've succumbed to defeat before you even started the battle!!!
How do you know you can't be perfect if you've never tried? How will anyone ever reach perfection with an attitude like yours?
You should be ashamed of yourself! It's attitudes like yours that have so many so-called "believers" living such a lukewarm lifestyle. Many of you, as I've witnessed, only do "good" when it's done with your congregations; for others to see! And that's "good" enough for you.
<quoted text>What bible are YOU reading?
The wages of sin is death. Sin is the transgression of the law.
You believe what you want. I'll believe the bible.
there are those others; which are annointed too and bearing the ONE NAME.

all those who were to judge israel were annointed.

4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/l...

behold the lambs of god

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/l...

why do you worship the prince of peace and not the King of peace, melchisedec from whose order jesus became a high priest and who also was the Son of God?

hebrews 7:

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#482048 Jan 31, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Why do some people lose all their money at a casino?
The answer is the same for both.
For most, I agree.

I'm a non-Pascalian. <smile>

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#482049 Jan 31, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
While I understand what you say makes perfect sense. You left off one important thing. If the reader cares not for nor does he or she respect truth because it opposes their position, lifestyle or accepted faith then the Ruach HaKodesh will not strive with him or her. Remember, this is their option, and people choose daily not to listen to the Ruach even when it impresses upon them the truth.
This is just my observation. Plus, I never told anyone that the Ruach HaKodesh impresses upon me anything nor that I have the best ever relationship with The Most High. They make this assumption all on their own.
Shalom my friend.
:)
Andrew (CS).
Agreed.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#482050 Jan 31, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
....From self proclaimed intellectuals no less...
Several here are University proclaimed intellectuals, while few of the "self proclaimed" theologians here have even attended Bible College.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#482051 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
What I find ironic is normally the person mocking people for arguing over scripture that they have a vested in is normally an unbeliever who has spent just as much time arguing with believers over scripture they don't even believe in a religion they already left
The condescension seems to grow proportionally with the years after the departure as it is the easiest way to convince one's self they made the right choice. Of course if they considered how they used to be one of the people for most their lives that they now mock and call stupid among other things one might wonder just how hard they are trying to convince themselves
You know how I know when someone has left something hand has no regrets? When they leave it in the rear-view mirror. How many times has someone bent your ear off telling you about an ex boyfriend or girlfriend they claim they are over? Yet people spend hours a day who left Christianity, talking about Christianity to Christians and I gotta wonder is all I am saying
(T) Peace
What about those of us who never were believers in the first place ?
nagagaruda

Williamsburg, KY

#482052 Jan 31, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Several here are University proclaimed intellectuals, while few of the "self proclaimed" theologians here have even attended Bible College.
the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of heaven before them.

come gather together for the great supper

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17177884/Language-o...

sun = lake of fire

Revelation 19:17
And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

allegory of the cave plato

[Socrates] And suppose once more, that he is reluctantly dragged up a steep and rugged ascent, and held fast until he 's forced into the presence of the sun himself, is he not likely to be pained and irritated? When he approaches the light his eyes will be dazzled, and he will not be able to see anything at all of what are now called realities.
[Glaucon] Not all in a moment, he said.
[Socrates] He will require to grow accustomed to the sight of the upper world. And first he will see the shadows best, next the reflections of men and other objects in the water, and then the objects themselves; then he will gaze upon the light of the moon and the stars and the spangled heaven; and he will see the sky and the stars by night better than the sun or the light of the sun by day?
[Glaucon] Certainly.
[Socrates] Last of he will be able to see the sun, and not mere reflections of him in the water, but he will see him in his own proper place, and not in another; and he will contemplate him as he is.
[Glaucon] Certainly.
[Socrates] He will then proceed to argue that this is he who gives the season and the years, and is the guardian of all that is in the visible world, and in a certain way the cause of all things which he and his fellows have been accustomed to behold?
[Glaucon] Clearly, he said, he would first see the sun and then reason about him.
[Socrates] And when he remembered his old habitation, and the wisdom of the cave and his fellow-prisoners, do you not suppose that he would felicitate himself on the change, and pity them?
[Glaucon] Certainly, he would.
[Socrates] And if they were in the habit of conferring honors among themselves on those who were quickest to observe the passing shadows and to remark which of them went before, and which followed after, and which were together; and who were therefore best able to draw conclusions as to the future, do you think that he would care for such honors and glories, or envy the possessors of them? Would he not say with Homer,

Better to be the poor servant of a poor master,

and to endure anything, rather than think as they do and live after their manner?

So if by the time the bar closes
And you feel like falling down
I'll carry you home,
Tonight.

fly away home

Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#482053 Jan 31, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
.....
If he wants his words understood, maybe he shouldn't use parables. They are a terrible way to communicate. Has one even been written since Aesop and Jesus?....
We simply call them hypotheticals, allegories, analogies, etc. They are, essentially, the basis for teaching throughout history.

Extremely common in children's stories.

Jesus made it fairly clear why he did it and explained it to his closest disciples:

"He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them....

...This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.'"

Translation:
You guys and gals grasp this stuff but the masses are generally clueless and ignorant so I have to talk to them like little children.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#482054 Jan 31, 2013
Since you think you have all the answers, please tell me where in the Bible it says that God wants/needs a human sacrifice and the Law and Rituals to carry that out ?
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
You Keep talking about our ANOINTED SAVIOUR but you dont mention what He done or you simply do not know what He has accomplished for US.
Under the above considerations; as the riches, the glory, and the mystery of the Gospel; as the hope set before lost sinners to lay hold upon; as the only Saviour and Redeemer, by whose "righteousness" BELIEVERS are JUSTIFIED, through whose blood their sins are PARDONED, by whose sacrifice and satisfaction atonement is made, and in whose person alone is acceptance with God: Christ and him crucified, and salvation by him
Do you not know what Justified means??
Do you not know what PARDONED means??
Do you not understand what a REDEEMER IS??
Do you know what the definition for SANCTIFIED is??
Once you learn that it was THESE things that our ANOINTED SAVIOUR done for us? If you are calling Him our Anointed Saiour then find out WHY He is called that. Give Him the crdit that He deserves and drop your self righteous display of perfectness..you pale in comparison to Jesus. Have a great day BLL

Since: Oct 12

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#482055 Jan 31, 2013
I will always remind you of theses things even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have.

I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body.

Because I know that I will soon put it aside as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me.

And I will make every effort to see that after my departure you will always be able to remember theses things.

We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,but we were eyewitnesses of His Majesty.

For He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory saying,This is My Son whom I love with him I am well pleased.We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain.

And we have the word of the prophets made more certain and you will do well to pay attention to it as to a light shining in a dark place until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

Above all you must understand that no prophecy of scripture came about by the prophets own interpretaion.

For prophecy never had its orgin in the will of man but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#482056 Jan 31, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Today's Prayer
Dear God, I know that you have a plan for my life. Sometimes, I'm not sure I'm following the right path that will fulfill your perfect will. I pray that you will give me discernment to make the right choices, and to recognize when yYou place someone in my life to give direction and point out truths that will prepare me for the path I am to follow and the circumstances I am to face. Lord, please give me strength, grace, and unction from on high to not turn back neither to one side or the other, but to remained focused straight ahead on You. In Jesus' name, amen.
(I posted this earlier but it isn't showing up...So I re-posted it)
Amen.
mike

AOL

#482057 Jan 31, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good early morning Mike, long time no hear from, how've been?
Hello LAWest100

I'm still a thorn.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#482058 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>LoL skitzo much? First you claim I attacked you and mistook kindness for weakness and how tough you are so when I explained why I responded now I am the one claiming persecution? You either are that stupid or think others are. Go look for some teeth to knock out. You can start with your own just by sitting down as youjr head is up your arse! LOL...and more sterotyping about church and Christians..what a surprise from such a niced fella. And my 2 morals? Werent you the one talking in a mock southing black mimic whatever u wanna call the other day? See ya stupid, I have given u all the time ur gonna get! I know u will be responding to me forever now! definitely the insecure type who will need 'vindication'
(((((Steve))))))) I don't know what has happened to you- but for months and months , you have been caustic and attacking too many people. You disagree with people and then use personal attacks and a nasty tone. This type of action hurts you more than it does 'us'. As it lets blackness enter your once enlightened soul.

I tell you these truths- as I love you as a brother in Christ.

I will also come clean about this: Your actions are the reason I quit posting here. Your posts OVER even JAWS posts- are offensive. You say you don't want to let others post false things about God- but you don't see that your attitude is WORSE than someone not having the same take on a verse as you do.

c'mon - Ask God to cleanse you anew- so that you may regain His peace- and become a useful messenger. <3
Love,deb~

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#482059 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>She stated the gospels and the teachings of Christ were for the Jews so kind of hard for her as a Gentile to now use them as the reason she believes OSAS. and if someone is going to tell others they are blind and are of the devil and dont trust Christ it seems reasonable to me they at least use scripture they say applies to them. not to you huh? that helps actually. thx
God’s Faithfulness
3 What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way! First of all,
the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.

3 What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness?
4 Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:

“So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge.”
5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us?(I am using a human argument.) 6 Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7 Someone might argue,“If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8 Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!

No One Is Righteous
9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
mike

AOL

#482060 Jan 31, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Romans 2:13 says it is not hearers of the law that will be declared just but doers of the law that will be justified. Romans also says our one remaining debt to one another is to love and those who do that have fulfilled the law. Romans also says if even the natural branches can be broken off for unbelief so can the Gentiles. Try reading all of Romans
In another post of yours,(stated something like, believers are to obey the command of a GOD)wouldn't that place you under the "law"?

Most who believe will say,(the bible says)isn't that bondage of the law, what does "love" have to do with it?

Do people need the bible or a GOD to function on "LOVE"?
mike

AOL

#482061 Jan 31, 2013
When people commit acts of violence we don't say the "devil" made them do it, although some have claimed it as a defense.

Can you point to overwhelming acts of kindness that would beg credit for a GOD?
mike

AOL

#482062 Jan 31, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
(((((Steve))))))) I don't know what has happened to you- but for months and months , you have been caustic and attacking too many people. You disagree with people and then use personal attacks and a nasty tone. This type of action hurts you more than it does 'us'. As it lets blackness enter your once enlightened soul.
I tell you these truths- as I love you as a brother in Christ.
I will also come clean about this: Your actions are the reason I quit posting here. Your posts OVER even JAWS posts- are offensive. You say you don't want to let others post false things about God- but you don't see that your attitude is WORSE than someone not having the same take on a verse as you do.
c'mon - Ask God to cleanse you anew- so that you may regain His peace- and become a useful messenger. <3
Love,deb~
Hello Truths
Do you perfer saying nice things and pretending to be holy?

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