“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#481703 Jan 30, 2013
Encouraging Words....

Why am I discouraged? Why is my heart so sad? I will put my hope in God! I will praise him again - my Savior and my God

Psalm 42:11

K-Love

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#481704 Jan 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good evening Epi, it made it pass 70 here in columbia, I had to work today but I tookba few minutes on a short break to sit outside and it really felt great.
Me too....And today it may get up to 80....But WINDY....

Don't blow away today...

(PS...Did you hear they might move the Carolina Panthers....YIKES)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481705 Jan 30, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No.... how did you work that out? And then answer your question?
***What is Junk DNA?
www.wisegeek.com/what-is-junk-dna.htm
Whatever you call it, the percentage of junk DNA in the genome is often quite high. In humans, for example, 95% of the genome is composed of noncoding DNA***
Just because the scientists, once upon a time, discounted 95% of our DNA as junk or meaningless, does not mean that I did.
Thank GOD they have changed their minds (again) because they have realised our 'junk' is useful and they have stopped calling in their playground.
What I did say was that they will never trace a human being back to an animal..... nothing what so ever to do with useless, OK?
"Junk DNA" is a fascinating subject at two levels:

It is interesting as science.

But it is also very interesting to see it used in an agenda driven straw man argument against science and scientists. It's become another Christian apologetics meme, like irreducible complexity.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#481706 Jan 30, 2013
See ya'll Later....

God Bless

((*_-))

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481707 Jan 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
It is called Pauline because the words of Paul are taken as more important, truthful and exact than the words of Jesus. Note how Jesus' words are used to prove Paul instead of the other way around.
Paul was a preacher espousing his opinions and interpretations. He was not God, Jesus nor Messiah. He was no different than the Pastor who lives nextdoor or the Priest in the Parochial House next to the Chapel.
Correct, and a very good point.

I used to despise Paul relative to Jesus. Jesus had the gentler temperament. It was Paul who demeaned women, for example, not Jesus. Neither seemed to have much use for sex, but it was Paul that wanted the women to shut up and submit.

But later, I came to respect Paul as a rational ethicist. He simply contradicted Jesus and dismissed the Old Testament law, and replaced it with a much improved ethical system, however deficient by modern standards. He didn't have permission to do that. He simply did it.

I don't want to give him too much credit,since I'm not sure that Paul was guided by compassion as much as expediency. His motive may have been to appeal to gentiles rather than make life better for people, but he did use reason to make ethical judgments rather than conform to scripture.

What do you think?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481708 Jan 30, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
Our anointed Savior said, "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

I wonder how many of us, here, can perform such wonders? I wonder how many of us, here, possess such power? If the answer is "None," then where are all the faithful?
So how do you reconcile this apparent unkept promise? Allegory? That's the usual way.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481709 Jan 30, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
You've encountered some confused believers, then.
Me, too.

Since: Oct 12

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#481710 Jan 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps. Is that relevant? Did you have a point with that?
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Yes you were. You just can't remember any more.
A good measure pressed down,shaken together and running over will be poured into your lap.

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#481711 Jan 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I'm guessing that Lil Whiskas didn't think it through the first time, that his opinions were given to him, and he absorbed them uncritically.
Keep right on guessing

Since: Dec 12

Islamabad, Pakistan

#481712 Jan 30, 2013
All on this site needs.

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#481713 Jan 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Whiskas is a she? OK. Sorry, ma'am.
Her age is not a factor. It's the misanthropic garbage that flows from here that is relevant here. If she's willing to spew it in a mixed forum, she needs to be strong enough to deal with the blow back.
As I said, just substitute any group you'd like into her comment to see if she is offensive or not:
Blacks are greedy, jealous, selfish, foolish, ignorant
Jews are greedy, jealous, selfish, foolish, ignorant
Mankind is greedy, jealous, selfish, foolish, ignorant
Sorry, but I take offense at that. What's the difference between those three? And what is sweet about a person that writes like that?
As I have already noted, Christian misanthropy is a deep pessimism for mankind which, as a human being, I resent. If it were not other human beings saying these things about us - if a second intellectual and verbal species evolved on earth, or colonized earth from elsewhere, and spoke about humanity like that - they would be just as despised, and there would probably eventually be war. Every human being should reject and resent such a depiction of our species.
You resent,You already noted,verbal species evolved on earth.

Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brothers eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye.

Since: Mar 09

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#481714 Jan 30, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
For the record...
I spent a good portion of today, on Facebook, debating with a Messianic Jew-ish friend of mine that totally rejects all of Paul's letters, accusing Paul of contradicting all that our anointed Savior, and his apostles and disciples, taught. I tried to explain to her that the error is not in what Paul wrote, but in how people, especially those of Christendom, interpret his letters. For most of our discussion, we examined Paul's letter to the Galatians. We agreed to continue our discussion tomorrow. But, before we closed our discussion, she admitted to finally being able to understand how the discrepancies occur. And tomorrow, we hope to continue our discussion by re-examining the letter to the Galatians, to show her what Paul was explaining, specifically. And after that, I hope to show her what Paul laws Paul was referring to, specifically, when he mentions the laws we're no longer under.
Thank you, "God," for humility.
The law also had nothing to do with Jesus Christ.In fact those who followed the law but felt they did not need Christ for a savior are what are widely known as the pharisees. So when someone says are we under law or under grace,, what shouldn't get lost is that to be IN CHRIST one must obey him and trust in Him for salvation. Even if people didn't have to follow any portion of the law (which clearly is not the case or we would be allowed to murder, steal, etc) once entering the age of grace, they still have to obey Jesus Christ

People often say we are no longer under the curse of law. I don't think fully understand what that means but that is my opinion. But would anybody say we are no longer under the curse of the teachings of Jesus Christ? Yet they espouse the same adherence to it which is zero. And this is despite being sent the Holy Spirit to remind us of his teachings and his last command after rising from the dead was to baptize all nations and make sure they obey (observe) all he has commanded of them.

Just something i have never understood and perhaps some food for thought

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

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#481715 Jan 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
So how do you reconcile this apparent unkept promise? Allegory? That's the usual way.
Do you think someone's faith is literally a mustard seed?

Stands to reason if it started off as allegory it would continue as one

It is literally called The Parable of the Mustard Seed. Jesus taught 40 parables. Something to keep in mind when reading his words. He often asks us to understand the underlying message in a story.

Since: Sep 12

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#481716 Jan 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
I find it strange that so many will defend Paul more than Jesus Himself.
If someone says "Paul was a pagan" they get more flack than if they say "Jesus was just a Jew on a stick."
Oh...are we suppose to get all upset over "name calling"? Sorry, I outgrew that years ago. Besides, If someone Believed what Jesus taught, they would know that JESUS said the world would hate Him. They done more than called Him names. If we were to ignore Paul, than we might as well just tear out the whole NEW Testament to appease you Judaism worshippers. Paul was no more a pagan than Moses and all the writers of the Old Testament. I am a gentile and Pauls message was for the Gentiles. Go ahead and be stuck in the Old Testament with all its Legalistic teaching and "fleshly works"and I will enjoy the New Covenant with all its Better promises. If it makes you feel better to resort to childish name calling, thats ok too..I just laugh and thank God for His Grace.

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#481717 Jan 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing mysterious about any of this.
And you don't get to hide behind your god. You chose to post those words. They're yours now.
But the one who hears my words and does not put them in practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without foundation
The moment the torrent struck that house It collapsed and it destruction was complete.No good tree bears bad fruit nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.

Since: Mar 09

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#481718 Jan 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
If she's willing to spew it in a mixed forum, she needs to be strong enough to deal with the blow back.
I agree. I don't understand why people want to afford others some sort of protections status. Personally I would be offended people saw me as that weak.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
As I said, just substitute any group you'd like into her comment to see if she is offensive or not:
Blacks are greedy, jealous, selfish, foolish, ignorant
Jews are greedy, jealous, selfish, foolish, ignorant
Mankind is greedy, jealous, selfish, foolish, ignorant
Sorry, but I take offense at that. What's the difference between those three? And what is sweet about a person that writes like that?
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You are kidding right?

The first two would be bigoted claiming morality is linked is skin color or ethnicity. It would be singling out a group based on nothing significant based solely on predjudices towards that group.

Saying mankind is greedy, jealous, foolish, ignorant, or whatever is someone's opinion of man's nature and is all-inclusive and judges evenly based on the actions of all humans. Whether or not you agree with her assessment or think it is nice is irrelevant. She has a right to her opinion. And there is a huge, huge difference between bigoted statements and non-bigoted statements.

But while we are on it, what humans do you know that have never exhibited greed or jealously, or ignorance or foolishness? So you complaint is to the degree that you think they engage in it is less that what you perceive Whispers to be saying? That's a pretty thin thread to hang a moral objection on

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#481719 Jan 30, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh...are we suppose to get all upset over "name calling"? Sorry, I outgrew that years ago. Besides, If someone Believed what Jesus taught, they would know that JESUS said the world would hate Him. They done more than called Him names. If we were to ignore Paul, than we might as well just tear out the whole NEW Testament to appease you Judaism worshippers. Paul was no more a pagan than Moses and all the writers of the Old Testament. I am a gentile and Pauls message was for the Gentiles. Go ahead and be stuck in the Old Testament with all its Legalistic teaching and "fleshly works"and I will enjoy the New Covenant with all its Better promises. If it makes you feel better to resort to childish name calling, thats ok too..I just laugh and thank God for His Grace.
You think the teachings of Jesus Christ are old testament?

You consider the teachings of Jesus Christ "Legalistic teaching and "fleshly works"?

Because from your post it sounds like before Paul there was nothing but the Old Testament

You do in-between just so happened to be our Lord and Savior right?

He had some pretty smart teachings. You should check them out some time.

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#481720 Jan 30, 2013
Edit Grace

Should read

You do know in-between

not

You do in-between

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#481721 Jan 30, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh...are we suppose to get all upset over "name calling"? Sorry, I outgrew that years ago. Besides, If someone Believed what Jesus taught, they would know that JESUS said the world would hate Him. They done more than called Him names. If we were to ignore Paul, than we might as well just tear out the whole NEW Testament to appease you Judaism worshippers. Paul was no more a pagan than Moses and all the writers of the Old Testament. I am a gentile and Pauls message was for the Gentiles. Go ahead and be stuck in the Old Testament with all its Legalistic teaching and "fleshly works"and I will enjoy the New Covenant with all its Better promises. If it makes you feel better to resort to childish name calling, thats ok too..I just laugh and thank God for His Grace.
Hi Grace :) I was talking to my mum-in-law yesterday (she's my Christian 'yoda'), about OSAS. She said she believes there are different levels of Heaven. She gets this from Revelation. She said that because my hubby was once a true believer, he is saved and would probably go into the first level. She said the same thing about my mother, who passed away 3 years ago. I have often fretted about where she might be. My MIL, then said something about how, because I am saved, so is my mother and siblings and that the same theory applied to my husband because of his family. She believes in OSAS. So it's making me wonder more and more about it, I'd like to talk to you about it, if you want to.
Blessings <3

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#481722 Jan 30, 2013
Why do some people, take the Bible so literally?

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