Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481459 Jan 29, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Encouraging Words....
The earnest prayer of a righteous person has great power and produces wonderful results.
James 5:16
K-Love
With all due respect, what do these words encourage apart from prayer? To an unbeliever, they're not encouraging words. To a believer, they are an affirmation that he or she can make difference by praying.

Does it matter to you whether the words are true or not? What if the claim could be tested? Would you want to know the results, even if they contradicted the claim? If you love truth, I think that your answer has to be "yes." Do you disagree?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481460 Jan 29, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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I watched it on Netflix.
I'd love to hear your and hiding's thoughts on it.
Looking up the title now. For some reason, it sometimes takes a while to connect. I think I need a better wireless router.
Aha. That took a while.
It's The Human Family Tree.
You can watch it here, too:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-family-t...
Wow! Thanks. Today's a full day, but I'll be looking at that ASAP.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481461 Jan 29, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>I saw a chart about the RCC and their own evolution... it was somewhere in that timeline where they were more open to evolution.
Believers believe in evolution because that is what they were taught in school... they had no choice. I can get in the whole spill about how it started to get taught in the classrooms but that is for another day unless someone would like to do due diligence on their own and look for it for themselves which would be plus. Nevertheless, Evolution wasn't always taught in schools but when it did arrive on the scene it didn't come without racism (survival of the fittest)... and I understand Darwin used animals to make this point but the powers that believe politically-corrected it for their own prejudices. Not just the fittest of whites against blacks but even whites against whites in Europe. Scientific racism actually...
Evolution and Eugenics are intertwined... Survival of the fittest.
Only someone who doesn't understand evolution could write what you wrote. All of us evolutionary theorists have moved on beyond the early 20th century. That was, what, a hundred years ago?

Science isn't stagnant like dogma.

And...all evidence demonstrates evolution. Francis Crick, Christian, quoted on this thread by Serah, wrote that "if you don't accept evolution, you aren't educated." The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. It has never been disproved, not once.

And you creationists have never, not once, put up a theoretical framework for your story. The very best you can do is rest your belief on your inability to understand science. You never rest your belief on evidence. Nor on application - creationism is incapable of producing new knowledge and technology.

So the very best you have is deception, misdirection and ignorance.

Well done.

When you come up with a theoretical framework or a medicine, let me know.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481462 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I guess I would have to make a distinction between Natural Eugenics and Gov't enforced Eugenics. However, both are evolutionary forces.
I'd have to disagree with you here - mostly over your use of language.

Calling natural selection eugenics is misusing the term eugenics. If we do that, then we fail to understand how human enforced breeding programs differ from death because of environmental forces.

Second, gov't enforced eugenics leads to evolutionary change in the short term in that gene frequencies in gene pools change. However, it cannot lead to long term evolution unless the society strictly carries out the eugenics schemes for a very long time - longer than any society has yet existed.

If they could, though, you'd have powerful, directed evolution.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#481463 Jan 29, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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hahaha!
How many religions are there? Every single believer of every single religion "knows" that they are "correct" - just like you do.
So...forgive me for not believing in your evil deity. Why should I take yours over any other religion's?
Honestly do not know how many religions there are.No wrong not all believers think in this way.No is only one of me and they do not think like me.You could not have what I have you have to go and seek your own.

Tis nothing to forgive cause I never ask you to believe.I do not have a regilion for you to take or join.What I do have is a personal walk with God and in doin that walk I share.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#481464 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I certainly hope there is competing theories or its no more than a religion and I have been doing it wrong all these years.
Come up with a competing theory, a valid one, and you will probably win a Nobel Prize.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481465 Jan 29, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I watched it on Netflix.
I'd love to hear your and hiding's thoughts on it.
Looking up the title now. For some reason, it sometimes takes a while to connect. I think I need a better wireless router.
Aha. That took a while.
It's The Human Family Tree.
You can watch it here, too:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/human-family-t...
Hi Aero!

I don't have my regular laptop, but once it comes and if I can find this again, I'll check it out and give you some thoughts.

:)

Thanks for thinking of me!

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481466 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Ooooh! Oooh! Pick mine! Pick mine!
LOL
hahaha, ok!

Yours is the one true God. Named G_O_D.

(now ... uhm...how would I know that...?)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481467 Jan 29, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
creationism is not used in science. It's absolutely useless as an explanatory paradigm as it cannot generate testable, disprovable hypotheses.
As you know too well ....

Creationist investigations have generated no new factual information, have published no scientific papers supporting creationism over naturalism that are more than editorial pieces, have predicted nothing unexpected, and cannot be used to predict or manipulate nature or benefit our daily lives.

Creationism doesn't resemble science in another important way: Unlike science,which has no agenda apart from understanding the material world, creationists set out to prove their faith based belief, meaning it is agenda driven.

Legitimate science goes where the evidence takes it, however counterintuitive that may be. Inject a religious agenda and a desired end point, and you introduce a confirmation bias that applies a continual unidirectional pressure to the experiments and methodologies chosen, and a confirmation bias to their interpretation.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#481468 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You have that backwards.
No she doesn't.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#481469 Jan 29, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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... The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. It has never been disproved, not once....
Sounding much like a religion.

"The evidence for a creator is overwhelming. God has never been disproved, not once."

Dang them double-edged swords. <smile>

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481470 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I certainly hope there is competing theories or its no more than a religion and I have been doing it wrong all these years.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. There are no competing theories with evolutionary theory.

Evolution is the framework theory of biological science. There is no competing framework theory.

Yes, there are competing hypotheses about the details of evolution. But there are no competing theories that could replace evolutionary theory.

It has nothing to do with religion. Simply, all available evidence and observations demonstrate that gene frequency change in gene pools, over time, leads to changing morphology (new species). While we don't have every detail worked out, the basic theoretical framework is.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#481471 Jan 29, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Write to me "creationism declares X and X is what we observe in nature. In fact, we use X to predict Y and produce treatment Z. That's how powerful X is." What creationist observations do we have? None. What creationist predictions do we have about nature? None. What creationist technology or solutions do we have about nature? None.

The thing is, you creationists scream and rant all you like, but you never produce new knowledge or technology. You are incapable of solving real world problems like malaria or tuberculosis - let's not forget the creationist "disease as sin" model. You are incapable of explaining why pathogens exist, how to treat them, how to eradicate them, why they affect us as they do.

Evolution answers these questions with ease. It produces all kinds of medical technology and medical knowledge.

Creationism doesn't. It's a religious belief
See there! I knew that you already knew that.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481472 Jan 29, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. morning sweetness ..
.. you forgot to say, "All biology is based on evolutionary theory." ..
.. always liked that one ..
.. Tide promises to return you to the trunk shortly ..
Good morning!

I've already made good my escape. Poor Tide. Returning to the trunk for no reason.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481473 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Creationism declares that nothing on Earth changes and species can not change.
Since we can observe the planet changing and the differentiation wihtin species, that disproves Creationism.
Only someone who is so insane as to believe that words in a book are facts and the reality around them is false can accept the Static Model of Life and the Cosmos as described in Genesis.
BTW, According to Genesis, the moon does not exist nor do any planets. Don't see them jumping on THAT particular bandwagon of lunacy.
hahaha, totally!

Huh? Genesis doesn't believe in the moon or planets? Wow...ok...one more nail in the coffin.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#481474 Jan 29, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Come up with a competing theory, a valid one, and you will probably win a Nobel Prize.
You were making a blanket claim that there are no competing theories in science, not just about evolution.

BTW, which is correct, the Out of Africa or Out of Asia theory ?

Was Neanderthal a seperate species or not ?

Is the Universe a ball of string or 14 membranes ?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481475 Jan 29, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Well...
I DID say two.
Maybe he'll forget that they're free.
Maybe he'll start paying you to breathe!

Woohooo, dinner on you!

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481476 Jan 29, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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How so? How presumptuous of you. I do find that surprising.
Well, perhaps my interpretation of your LOL was mistaken, then.

It's just that you didn't comment, except to write LOL about someone who gave up Christianity for more powerful deities.

In my experience, Christians often make fun of the practices and beliefs of other religions. I thought you were doing this. If you were not, I apologize.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#481477 Jan 29, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Honestly do not know how many religions there are.No wrong not all believers think in this way.No is only one of me and they do not think like me.You could not have what I have you have to go and seek your own.
Tis nothing to forgive cause I never ask you to believe.I do not have a regilion for you to take or join.What I do have is a personal walk with God and in doin that walk I share.
So...you are claiming that believers of other religions don't actually "know" that their deities are "the one, true god"? or the "one, true religion"?

You think they just happen to believe in some strange religion and are waiting to be told the truth?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#481478 Jan 29, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Sounding much like a religion.
"The evidence for a creator is overwhelming. God has never been disproved, not once."
Dang them double-edged swords. <smile>
God has been tested in numerous dubious ways.

For those who seek truth, god has failed every test.

For those who seek god, god has passed every test.

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