Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Quo Vadis”

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#481203 Jan 28, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Slavery was seen as moral by those who authored the Bible, supposedly under the influence of God. So by inference God thought slavery was moral too. Is it no longer moral? Does God's morality change to suit human custom? God isn't very consistent then.
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Did God inspire the Bible or not? If not, then it has no moral authority, does it? If God did inspire it, then why isn't slavery still moral? The canon of the Bible was decided by the councils of Nicea in about 300AD, and the Bible hasn't changed much since until Martin Luther edited seven books out of the Catholic Bible in the 16th century. God hasn't issued an update since, and slavery is still in there, so...
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What are you talking about? Slavery in the Bible is an inconsistency.
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Not at all. To take a well-known example, according to the Bible, are you saved by faith or works? The Bible directly contradicts itself on even this very basic point.
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Don't speak for me, because you are quite wrong.
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You do have an issue with it unless you support slavery.
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What is immoral about homosexuality then, since you seem to think you know so much about it?
This is poor. You speak about a bible contradicst itself, then you need to show us examples of what you're talking about. James 2:14-16 elaborates on the fact that Faith without Works is dead, and while one is saved by His faith, obeying the Law (works) or if you prefer, showing your faith in the physical by helping people goes with faith.

And what are you saying? that some things should be edited out of the bible? Your tactics are diversionary. Don't take the issue off yourself and put it on scripture. We all know the flaws with the tranlsations (which is what you failed to mention), but even when the Hellenistic Jews had the scriptures homosexuality was still regarded an abomination. So though Greek and Roman culture was accepting of same sex relations, the Hellenistic Jews and Greeks and Romans who had authority over the scrolls for a time never edited these things from the several copies that were made.

So what's your excuse? You're out of your element with that argument Mr. Wild Rider.

Counter_Strike.

Since: Oct 12

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#481204 Jan 28, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I couldn't understand a word you wrote. Sure, it was in English and I read English, but you didn't say anything I could make sense of.
Uhm...hi back?
Hey, hummingbird right back at you?
How do I respond to whatever it was that you wrote???
Gottcha there.Good luck with that research your doin on Asthma.

Sorry you never taken the time to ever get to know a code talker,you missed quite a adventure.

What even sadder is the hummingbird too or about the fruitbowl.
But understand is few partakers due to the fear.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#481205 Jan 28, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. Oscar, why do we bother? Some people will never get it ..
.. crucifixion was an immoral act but God condoned the suffering to redeem man from his sinful state which He originally placed him in ..
.. with morals like that, what's next ??..
You're morally constipated, so you're no judge of morality. You're like the murderer that complains about being robbed.

Talk about broken moral compass. I think you would be better served at this point to pour salt in your own wounds. Walk away with your mustard seed of dignity remaining before you lose that too.

:)+)

CS.
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#481206 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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No idea. Just forwarded the link and message in another report. Go home.
Hello Tinkerballs, lying through your teeth again.

And then all this crap about religion.

Come on out with it now, who are you really?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#481207 Jan 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/top stories/T0N0LORUMAROFEJGO/post 480907
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You're one of the offenders. You got frustrated with my criticisms of your religion and church and decided to make it personal with at least one or two gratuitous slurs this past Christmas.
.. some believers are incapable of civility and want everyone to bow a knee to their god. Conversely, there are atheists who mock the very possibility of a god ..

.. your endorsement of secular humanism is not a personal attack on anyone's belief system. Rather, it's simply a different point of view. To me, believers who become angry and slur your personal character are weak in their faith ..

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#481208 Jan 28, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Tinkerballs, lying through your teeth again.

And then all this crap about religion.

Come on out with it now, who are you really?
CIA. We will meet soon enough.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#481209 Jan 28, 2013
MalbarCACA Controller wrote:
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Hello Tinkerballs, lying through your teeth again.
And then all this crap about religion.
Come on out with it now, who are you really?
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Since: Oct 12

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#481210 Jan 28, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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There's no such thing as satan.
Now, have a glass of rum, watch some [censored] and do some [censored]ing.
:)
You real sure,postive of that,not a doubt in your mind.
So you think is no such thing never was and never will be.
He already gottcha you and laughing his hinie off at you.
He got you with the fruit and you like it so well you just keep returning to it and exercising no moderation.He now in control not you.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#481211 Jan 28, 2013
Serah wrote:
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***As someone who's had the privilege of leading the human genome project, I've had the opportunity to study our own DNA instruction book at a level of detail that was never really possible before.
It's also now been possible to compare our DNA with that of many other species. The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming.
I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that.
But I have no difficulty putting that together with what I believe as a Christian because I believe that God had a plan to create creatures with whom he could have fellowship, in whom he could inspire [the] moral law, in whom he could infuse the soul, and who he would give free will as a gift for us to make decisions about our own behavior, a gift which we oftentimes utilize to do the wrong thing.
I believe God used the mechanism of evolution to achieve that goal. And while that may seem to us who are limited by this axis of time as a very long, drawn-out process, it wasn't long and drawn-out to God. And it wasn't random to God.
[He] had the plan all along of how that would turn out. There was no ambiguity about that.
That's a question that troubles so many Christians who in many ways are very open to science. What would you say to Christians who feel that the randomness or the chaos that evolution can sometimes imply flies in the face of their most cherished beliefs?
I would say that I understand that and I'm sympathetic with how jarring that realization can be. I would say that the stance that some believers take, which is simply to reject evolution, is also to reject the information that God has given us, the ability to understand. I believe God did intend, in giving us intelligence, to give us the opportunity to investigate and appreciate the wonders of His creation. He is not threatened by our scientific adventures.
The answer to that sense of concern about randomness and chaos is to try to think beyond our own human limitations of time and space.
http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Science-Religio... ***
I believe that Creationism is a part of Science and believe that Francis Collins has proven that.
.. hi ya Serah ..

.. just wanted to point out Collins' article is rife with "I believe." He's expatiating on his belief system, not science ..

Since: Oct 12

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#481212 Jan 28, 2013
The Fly Swatters wrote:
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Want Juiculie , you'll find her here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/T6... #
Come on over.
I not interested in where she has been or the walk of life she already made right or wrong.Pay lil mind to idle gossip.
Have no interest in bashing or hurting her either.Your invite is for all the wrong reasons No thank you.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#481213 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Cause you don't talk to me anymore, I thought I offended you or something...:)
.. it's impossible to offend CATCHER ..

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#481214 Jan 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Speaking of honesty, tell us, are you gainfully employed?
In the real world, what do you do?
You don't need to know that either. All you need to know is I have a PC in my office and I can see the cruise ship pier through the window. I work for a very large fortune 500 company. Sometimes it's a rocky road but it's mostly good other than the coporate funnel (don't ask me to explain). I earn enough money to effectively yet barely take care of two large households. I come from a family that either works in the music industry of in government housing. Anything else is not a 'need to know', so....

...that's all you need to know and, why did you ask?

CS.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#481215 Jan 28, 2013
[sorry] >OR< in government housing.

“Quo Vadis”

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#481216 Jan 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That argument is so common, and has so many variations, that I have been collecting them. I'll share the reasons I have been given to date for why I am not qualified to interpret scripture:
[1] I took the scripture out of context. It means something other than what it says (context and implied meaning never supplied).
[2] I don't understand literary criticism
[3] It's an allegory, not literal.
[4] It's literal, not an allegory.
[5] Scripture is only transparent to those with a child's perspective
[6] Scripture is only transparent to biblical scholars
[7] I am not filled with the Holy Spirit
[8] That's the mystery of it all. "God works in mysterious ways"
[9] Man's mind is too puny to grasp the immensity of God's truth and justice.
[10] You were obviously never a "true christian"
[11] You don't have enough faith. You have to believe to understand.
[12] You can’t criticize the bible because you don’t believe or understand it.
[13] Why do we think we can pretend to know God?
[14] Scripture always interprets scripture
[15] Ever heard of biblical hermeneutics?
[16] You are not TRULY with truth and sincerity seeking God.
[17] You have to know how to translate Hebrew and Greek
[18] You are using a completely unsupportable transliteration of Scripture
[19] You have clearly not studied the ancient peoples who wrote those things or you would not come up with the conclusions you have.
[20] It takes humility to understand the Bible
[21]“Stop scripture mining."
[22] You have to be familiar with the technical terminologies in the bible before you can comprehend it.
[23] Even Satan can quote scripture.
Your 3 years of research has come to naught. This is poor. You should be happy you're only getting an 'F'.

CS.
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#481217 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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No idea. Just forwarded the link and message in another report. Go home.
Gone to sleep?

WAKE UP WHO ARE YOU, REALLY?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#481218 Jan 28, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>.. it's impossible to offend CATCHER ..
Ok. Cool :)

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#481219 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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It does? I never thought of it that way before...yesterday, I totalled the side of my car and a tyre and the rim, on a slightly flooded road, I hit a trolley that was hidden from view. It was pouring down, I had two kids in the car, no reception on my phone and the road was deserted. So I got out of the car that I'd just managed to get out of the large puddle, got the spare and jack out and started to undo the damaged tyre's bolts in the rain. Looking like a drowned rat and crying, I said, with a fair amount of angry attitude, "God, c'mon! Some help, please!" Two minutes went by and a bloke in a forby pulls up, tows me to his home garage, tells me he's a mechanic and felt sorry for me and fixes my car while his lil' boy plays with my 2 and his missus brings me a towel and a cuppa! For some reason your post made me feel like sharing that experience. I went out to pick up my third son from his Grandparents' house and I was so upset that I couldn't go, then I got home and saw the news and had that not happened, not to far from home, we may have died in the Lockyer Valley, near where my in laws live. So strange, especially considering the book I've been leafing through this week. God loves me, so yeah! Praise Jesus!
Lol... Soz, got carried away...
Blessings lovely cat <3
.. hey, that's a great story. No need to apologize but, for me, the "Praise Jesus," wasn't really necessary ..

.. if you dissect your experience, it's easy to understand the powerlessness of your situation. You were hopelessness and surrendered. Then, help arrived. You attributed it to Jesus. That's fine ..

.. are you familiar with Cause & Effect? It's a philosophical concept of causality in which an action or event will produce a certain response to the action in the form of another event. It's a rather interesting concept ..
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#481220 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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CIA. We will meet soon enough.
CUT THE CRAP.

WHO ARE YOU?
MalbarCACA Controller

Luton, UK

#481221 Jan 28, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Ok. Cool :)
AFRO BABOON, CUT THE CRAP.

WHO ARE YOU?
Henry

Bleicherode, Germany

#481222 Jan 28, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Amen.
There was never such a thing like a god! From thousands of socalled Gods has ever existed even a single one in reality!

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