“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#479380 Jan 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Nonsense.
Don't you wish you actually believed the things you're saying?
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You're very quick to demean those who disagree with you. It would be easy to make up a similar narrative about your motivations based on presumed character flaws as well.
You can do whatever you like friend. I don't have anything personal against you.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Have I mentioned how much I despise your church for teaching you to think like that? You make our lives more difficult and more dangerous because of it. You have no right. I'm pretty sure that you couldn't care less.
I'm sorry. I wonder what church is that? I have every right. I have a responsibility to share the word of truth to the world. I never said you had to like it.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Your philosophy is not respectable, and there is nothing appealing about it.
I didn't expect you to be thrilled by it. It is a message that doesn't tolerate certain ebhaviors and practices. There are no grey areas with it. So, the message is either loved or hated and sadly also teh messengers that deliver it.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Now it's my turn to discuss you and your decadent character. You are a coward.
You would hope I'm a coward. You have no problems saying this over the internet. In either case, I understand why you may feel this way.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Try standing up like the bipedal ape you were born to be, and look out into the universe, which may be almost empty, and which may contain no gods at all. Then face and accept the very real possibility that we may be all there is for light years.
I'm sorry, I already told you I don't worship gods. You seem not to listen very well. Also, I cannot be in your category because I'm not an ape. Maybe if you all stopped looking at yourselves like animals you wouldn't terat each other like animals.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Accept that you may be vulnerable and not watched over.
Sorry, no can do. Maybe you should accept that men and women were made for each other, otherwise it's an abomination.
:)
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Accept the likelihood of your own mortality and finititude.
Oh I'm mortal, but I will not cease to exist for all eternity. If I die
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Accept the reality of your insignificance everywhere but earth, and that you might be unloved except by those who know you - people, and maybe a few animals.
Is this the best you can do? LOL x 99. I will not accept that because it simply isn't true. You are not showing your peace and love religion very in this place as yet. I still wait to see it.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Because as far as we know, that's how it is.
It's more difficult at first than the comforting swaddling of religion, but be brave! Religion's comfort comes at a great price. It's infantilizing, and costs you your only shot at a mature, authentic, self-actualized existence.
Who is this 'we' you keep talking about? Do you have split personalities? Am I to assume....
:):
?
You deceive yourself greatly with your own unintelligent doctrine. I am most disappointed in you for your level of reasoning.
tsk, tsk, tsk...
Shame on you my friend. I believe you can do a lot better than this.

CS.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#479381 Jan 21, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.
Hopefully, anyway.
Good to see you IANS.
This is poor.

You have let me down Mr. Jurist.

CS.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#479382 Jan 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
edited for space:
<quoted text>
Good post.
Have you seen this before? It's pretty funny:
"Dear Dr. Laura
"Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
[1] Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
[2] I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? She is 6 years old, healthy, and very smart. She doesn't want to be a slave, so that might be a problem.
[3] I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19 24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
[4] When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
[5] I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
[6] A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
[7] Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear contact lenses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
[8] Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though Lev. 19 expressly forbids this: How should they die?
[9] I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? What should we do with the NFL?
[10] My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws?(Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.
You are a great prophet and I will go to my grave remembering that you were among the very few who placed the blame for 9/11 where it truly belonged: on abortionists, gays and lesbians. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Yes, the gay lifestyle is abhorent. It is a wicked and fruitless practice. I'm sure you agree with this wholeheartedly. Am I correct?

Andrew (CS).

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#479383 Jan 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I personally don't see much of a difference between observe all things I have commanded of you and obey all things I have commanded of you. The intent seems clear to me in both, he wants them to adhere to his teachings.
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I understand you are saying what the disciples taught was a different gospel; than what Paul ended up teaching or I think that is what you are saying. But If instructions given by Christ after he resurrected don't apply then why did he give them? I have a hard time thinking all he taught before the cross were things he didn't expect to be followed after he died and didn't include that in his teachings but this instruction he gave after he rose from the dead. So why doesn't that apply? This is why I feel some have interpreted Paul incorrectly because even if one believes everything he taught prior to his death was just for the Jews these teachings were surely for everything. The verse still means the same to me regardless of what English translation is used. Observe or obey all he has commanded of them is the same to me.
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I agree he rebuked them for not doing as he instructed. I think that shows he wanted them to and was not happy when they didn't obey what he had taught
<quoted text>
From the verses I have seen there are consequences for not obeying so I would say it is the former
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Can you point to any scripture that would lead you to believe Jesus didn't teach we are to follow all he taught? And what would be the point of teaching it if he didn't expect us to follow it?
Just asking out of curiosity, it is obviously hard to denote tone. I appreciate this response btw
To sum it all up, Jesus said that if we love Him, we will keep His commandments which are love God with all we have, love other people more than we love ourselves, and love other believers as Jesus loved His disciples.

As you stated, there are consequences for being disobedient. And there are rewards for being obedient. So God desires obedience, just as parents desire obedience from their children.

And we should observe what He taught.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#479384 Jan 21, 2013
shefifon wrote:
<quoted text>brahman should have been brahma
Minor. I agree. The world does not "discuss" this as it is extremely uncomfortable on religious and political fronts.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#479385 Jan 21, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Shoot!
I was being serious!
I truly wanted to know what she found great about Q posting
as a guy who obviously has worn out his welcome
and is in a bad situation, to the point a girl bangs her head to
have him beaten up??
He has posted this before..it's odd to me that he has to become someone
in the third party, in an over the top extreme story..to
cry victim..
I just don't get it??
You can't slander someone, especially sexually these days
and think you are not the one out of line.
Haven't seen much of that gal to notice her..
from what I'm reading, she's got alot of energy.
Good or bad? Not sure..
Have a good weekend- John Coffey lol.:) Happy to be posting more w you all!
All your posts have been to slam someone or another, or talk about them.

So, yes, I do believe your happy to be posting more. Thats who you are, and have always been.

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#479386 Jan 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Many, many, MANY people have paid that price.
<quoted text>
The why did he have to be arrested and tried? He could have had one of his apostles just nail him to a cross. It certainly would have made the claim that his death was a willing sacrifice more believable.
Incidentally, his crucifixion would have been one way for the Jews to realize that Jesus was not the messiah of the Old Testament, who it was prophesied would be triumphant on earth.
Yes many have sacrificed their lives so that we could continue to live in the physical realm, but all of the aforementioned were imperfect. However, Jesus, who lived a perfect life, died so that imperfect people could be be restored to spiritual life and fellowship with God.

Jesus escaped the crowd that wanted to eliminate Him on several occasions, but it was not yet His time, and when it was His time, He didn't resist but went willingly.

God reveals in His time not in our time. It had been prophesied in the OT that He would be crucified, long before crucifixion was being implemented by the Romans.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#479387 Jan 21, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Yes, the gay lifestyle is abhorent. It is a wicked and fruitless practice. I'm sure you agree with this wholeheartedly. Am I correct?
Andrew (CS).
.. homosexuality is not a lifestyle ..

Since: Mar 09

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#479388 Jan 21, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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To sum it all up, Jesus said that if we love Him, we will keep His commandments which are love God with all we have, love other people more than we love ourselves, and love other believers as Jesus loved His disciples.
As you stated, there are consequences for being disobedient. And there are rewards for being obedient. So God desires obedience, just as parents desire obedience from their children.
And we should observe what He taught.
I agree with that

And hopefully whether it is required or desired becomes a moot point as people are doing it anyway as they should out of love

(T) Peace

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#479389 Jan 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I agree with that
And hopefully whether it is required or desired becomes a moot point as people are doing it anyway as they should out of love
(T) Peace
I concur. I love Him, so my desire is to obey Him. It brings me joy and peace, even in the midst of trials and tribulation, but when I'm disobedient, I'm miserable.

Since: Mar 09

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#479390 Jan 21, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. hi ya, SKOM !! Hope your sex life has improved since we last engaged each other ..
.. do we scrutinize religion or belief systems ??..
Hey HL!

LOL, The dating scene is fine but the search for Mrs Skom still goes slow! All I want is a super rich, super hot, super-smart, and super-kindly woman like 22 years old who is also funny, not possessive or jealous, doesn't mind periods of silence, and loves my friends and dogs and is in no rush to have kids.For some strange reason the process is going slow!

As to whether we scrutinize religion or belief systems I don't really see how we can do one without the other but I think the stress would be on the belief system. That is fine if someone wants to address it from a social perspective but what I am saying is people shouldn't claim to be naive to the fact that people's personal convictions (religious or otherwise) will remain embedded in culture and politics regardless of what happens to organized religion. And that would even be allowing for the possibility that anyone let alone 5% of the country is going to overturn religious rights practiced and valued by the vast majority.

I don't mind if people want to argue to argue or debate to debate. I am just saying the facade that on Topix it is part of an effort to make the world a better place isn't really the case IMO. Many of us tend to fall into these delusions of grandeur when justifying our desire to argue. Sure when it comes to policing ourselves within the confines of Topix as to what is acceptable interaction that is one thing and I think a good thing and a necessary thing. But 99% of what is said on Topix won't affect anything beyond Topix and because of that I think people should be more upfront about their motivations. I personally don't have a problem admitting sometimes I simply want to argue depending on the "why" and also i enjoy debating. I find it mentally stimulating and I am competitive by nature and I like to learn.

(T) Peace
naja haje

Winchester, KY

#479391 Jan 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> Minor. I agree. The world does not "discuss" this as it is extremely uncomfortable on religious and political fronts.
but it's well known that trade goes far enough back to warrant the fact that egypt did business with china and india along the silk and spice roads.

another comparison

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24801364/Arabic-and...

other implications of middle east and east country, east connections

http://aaiil.org/text/books/others/khwajanazi...

the temple of suleiman, or solomon

its also known the zoroastrians(farsi/parsi) migrated to india, when islam became oppressive in the middle east
kerukeion

Winchester, KY

#479392 Jan 21, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. homosexuality is not a lifestyle ..
since there is no known gene been found, there are some in the field of epigenetics proposing a new theorum..

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/...

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#479393 Jan 21, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
All your posts have been to slam someone or another, or talk about them.
So, yes, I do believe your happy to be posting more. Thats who you are, and have always been.
Really Larry?
How come you can talk about and "slam" who ever you
want to here? Whenever there is discord- of any kind here-
can always count on you showing up and insulting a poster
who you don't like- you pick sides and love to be involved
in someone elses disagreement.

I can't just sit quietly in the corner when I see things
and actions I do not agree with.
( As it seems, neither can you..)
Not going to apologize to you for that.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#479394 Jan 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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OH MY! I have violated some sanctity here for sure.
If you read this Le Le, I apologize-an ya got a free shot com'n.
I also forwarded your message to winlac. They are grateful. TY
haha.
No you haven't - it doesn't bother me if someone thinks
I am male or female..how would you know? No apology needed.

Wow! Thanks..I should have gone over there myself..
We have lost alot of people here in the last year.. surprised
me how significant the loss of a cyber "friend" can hurt one's
heart..

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#479396 Jan 21, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Oh and BT 42.....Le_Le is a female not male
:)

Hi Epi.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#479397 Jan 21, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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All your posts have been to slam someone or another, or talk about them.
So, yes, I do believe your happy to be posting more. Thats who you are, and have always been.
LOL Funny...I see you and LeLe very much alike...not afraid to say what you are thinking and then letting the chips fall where they may. I actually admire that in both of you regardless of whether I agree with either one of you.

I know that you might find this hard to believe but there I times when I am frustrated with myself for not voicing my thoughts! Yes...I do...keep my mouth shut quite often...or just say...have a nice day.

Example...

A few days ago one of our resident doctors was more vile than usual...then someone came along and said they like his posts. I just thought...REALLY!!!...I almost asked that poster...ARE YOU FOR REAL???. Instead I just kept my mouth shut...though I am still wondering...REALLY???

Another example...

It took me almost an hour to decide if I should respond to your post...or would it just be opening up that can of worms.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#479398 Jan 21, 2013
naja haje wrote:
<quoted text>but it's well known that trade goes far enough back to warrant the fact that egypt did business with china and india along the silk and spice roads.
another comparison
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24801364/Arabic-and...
other implications of middle east and east country, east connections
http://aaiil.org/text/books/others/khwajanazi...
the temple of suleiman, or solomon
its also known the zoroastrians(farsi/parsi) migrated to india, when islam became oppressive in the middle east
So, you have done some research. very nice. Those are but a few of the relations and "pseudos". There were also at least 2 Ur's. storyline diverted easily with records destroyed. And on and on...I would have to reopen/research my files to share way more on this, and it is highly controversial. However, history lends itself to these findings.'You are a breath of fresh air. I had nearly forgotten in the midst of all the hocus pocus. I will have to give this some thought. It has been some time and is clouded in repository (I hope). I suffered a crash that was costly to data, but I believe I still have it. It's the details.
Thanks

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#479399 Jan 21, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Yes, the gay lifestyle is abhorent. It is a wicked and fruitless practice. I'm sure you agree with this wholeheartedly. Am I correct?
Andrew (CS).
It's not clear what you mean by the "gay lifestyle," but your comment certainly sounds like bigotry to me.

And to me, bigotry is unacceptable.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#479400 Jan 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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As to whether we scrutinize religion or belief systems I don't really see how we can do one without the other but I think the stress would be on the belief system. That is fine if someone wants to address it from a social perspective but what I am saying is people shouldn't claim to be naive to the fact that people's personal convictions (religious or otherwise) will remain embedded in culture and politics regardless of what happens to organized religion.**SNIPPED FOR SPACE**
.. you've commandeered the problem ..

.. many religious folk are judgmental toward those they disagree with. Counter_Strike categorized homosexuality as 'abhorent'(abhorrent) and wicked. His attitude is understandable and he probably feels a certain justification in trying to shame others, especially if he can convince himself that it is for their own good ..

.. ultimately, his attitude leaves a hollow feeling and it inhibits his spiritual growth. It just doesn't fit with compassion and acceptance. His attempts to shame hurt him, not gays ..

.. personal convictions are just that - personal. Judgment, guilt and shame have no place in a conscious world. We must awoke from our slumber and recognize the damage of certain religious dogma. It's simply uncivilized and does not adhere to the teachings of Jesus ..

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