Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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<quoted text> One of a "network" of allegiances and kings placed in power by the ruling class(s) of the entire region. These "kings" were thought to be "holy" advocates of the "gods" or even gods or demigods themselves, and their lifespans are even purported to be beyond those of the ones depicted in the bible. The advent of Abraham(Abrum) was the result of territorial wars between these greedy dominant powers. It was about power, assets and money-not religion or belief. No different than it is today. Religion fear of those "demigods" was an extremely effective tool used to control the minds and actions of the multitudes under subject of the "kings".
Trading daughters of royal "blood" ensured their commitment to each other as rulers and alliances in a common power. Egypt placed many "kings" in place who adopted local names(such as Israel and Assyria) so as to become more acceptable to the peoples of a particular area of the empire.
I understand perfectly what you are saying here and agree with you.
I done some digging into the life style of the Egyptian empire.There tech was amazing for there time period.On a day to day living scale could you imagine put yourself in that place with that many wives to feed and all the scrappin those women could have done with each other.Then think about all the children that most probably born and more mouths to feed and then when they got to scrappin over something.Talk about a mans self made problem.
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What's missing, you asked??' For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, and whosoever BELIEVETH in HIM (Jesus) shall have everlasting life'
god so loved the world

not some parts of it

energy cannot be created/destroyed. it simply changes form. 1st law of thermodynamics

Psalm 40:7
Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

this is the part of me that you are never, ever gonna take from me.

Revelation 5:1
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

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haku wrote:
<quoted text>how can one be objective when subjecting/controlling.
i think i finally had enough
i think i might think to much
schrodingers thought paradox
with what you mete it will be meted to you. you're always meeting self.
i set fire to the rain
i'm gonna baptize you with fire
let me love you
i'm wide awake
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<quoted text> Thanks for that link Drew, I did read a good portion of it but not all yet, and it makes a good point for those who want to make a argument that Peter wasn't the head of the Church but Peter was directly commanded by the Lord himself to feed his sheep, and he was the one who stood up among the 120 on the day of Pentecost and preached the very first sermon on our Lord Jesus directly after the gift of the Holy Ghost was poured out.
It is possible that the Apostles decided to devide certain districts up among themselves ( this is only speculation on my part ) and wherever services and/or meetings took place the head of that church location was the one in charge, I know when Paul was converted he sought out Peter also for communication to confirm that they had the exact same gospel of Jesus Christ, so I still believe that the Lord made Peter the overall head of the church.
Blessings.
Glad you took the time to check it out, Scott. Moreover, when we actually look at what Peter preached and what Paul preached there are stark differences even though, in reality, they never contradicted each other. The misunderstanding was put to rest when Peter and the other apostles to the Jews realized that it was the resurrection of Jesus Christ that validated Jesus as being the acceptable sacrifice for the sins of mankind, our substitute, the one who paid our penalty, and these things weren't initially preached by Peter.

What many people don't truly realize is that the apostles didn't go out from Jerusalem and Judea, taking the gospel to the nations as commanded (very disobedient, wouldn't you say?), because they were expecting the immediate return of Jesus Christ to set up His kingdom here on earth. So God called Paul to do what they didn't do, and (in obedience) that is to preach to the nations (all people) that Jesus didn't just come to set up a kingdom to free the Jews from Roman oppression, but He came to deliver mankind from the penalty of sin. The Bible states that wherever Paul went to minister, he first went to the synagogues to preach to the Jews the good news before he went to the Gentiles. Paul went on to say that if he could forfeit his own salvation for the salvation of his Jewish brethren, then he would do it.

You can investigate the differences in the gospels that were preached by Peter and Paul here:

http://www.matthewmcgee.org/2gospels.html#Dif...

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I understand perfectly what you are saying here and agree with you.
I done some digging into the life style of the Egyptian empire.There tech was amazing for there time period.On a day to day living scale could you imagine put yourself in that place with that many wives to feed and all the scrappin those women could have done with each other.Then think about all the children that most probably born and more mouths to feed and then when they got to scrappin over something.Talk about a mans self made problem.
No. I couldn't !
LOL! Self made hell is more like it!

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<quoted text> Thanks for that link Drew, I did read a good portion of it but not all yet, and it makes a good point for those who want to make a argument that Peter wasn't the head of the Church but Peter was directly commanded by the Lord himself to feed his sheep, and he was the one who stood up among the 120 on the day of Pentecost and preached the very first sermon on our Lord Jesus directly after the gift of the Holy Ghost was poured out.
It is possible that the Apostles decided to devide certain districts up among themselves ( this is only speculation on my part ) and wherever services and/or meetings took place the head of that church location was the one in charge, I know when Paul was converted he sought out Peter also for communication to confirm that they had the exact same gospel of Jesus Christ, so I still believe that the Lord made Peter the overall head of the church.
Blessings.
And let me add that I'm not trying to make you change how you believe, I'm merely just trying to show why I believe as I do.

The essential thing is that we trust in the resurrected Jesus as the Savior because He alone paid the price, a price that we could never pay, by offering His life for us. Nobody killed Him. He willingly offered Himself in our place.

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<quoted text> No. I couldn't !
LOL! Self made hell is more like it!


I know I know just pinch them behind the knee cap and tell them
life is just a bowl of cherries but along with it comes the pits.lol lol.I almost feel sorry for Solomon,but as they say he made the bed so sleep in it.lol lol All beds should be made with peace,contentment and happiness this is my opinion bingo then no problems nothing worse than quarrelson people under one roof.

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Cedars of Lebanon.

King Solomon used wood from the stately cedars of Lebanon in making his temple.Theses trees can grow to a height of 120 feet,with a cirumference of up to 40 feet.The wood is fragant free of knots and is not attracked by insects.Once very plentiful in Labanon cedars are now very rare there.The are the country's national emblem today,appearing on it national flag.
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<quoted text>Poor 'ol Meathead...
Will you tell me, please
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Date Palms.

The Bible mentions many fruits including apples,figs,dates,pomegranates ,grapes,nuts,
and olives.The Date Palm was one of the most
valuable fruit trees in bibical lands.Almost every
part of the tree was used:the fruit,pits,leaves,
trunk,crown and the branches.

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I know I know just pinch them behind the knee cap and tell them
life is just a bowl of cherries but along with it comes the pits.lol lol.I almost feel sorry for Solomon,but as they say he made the bed so sleep in it.lol lol All beds should be made with peace,contentment and happiness this is my opinion bingo then no problems nothing worse than quarrelson people under one roof.
Sooooo true.
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Drew H wrote:
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And let me add that I'm not trying to make you change how you believe, I'm merely just trying to show why I believe as I do.
The essential thing is that we trust in the resurrected Jesus as the Savior because He alone paid the price, a price that we could never pay, by offering His life for us. Nobody killed Him. He willingly offered Himself in our place.
Amen

'And up from the grave He Arose!

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Will you tell me, please
How do you get this link on youtube to show up on your post?
One method is to right click on it and then copy URL. Then right click and paste where you want to insert it.

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EXACTLY..I am NOT a Jew though. I am a Gentile and I can say that Jesus IS MY SAVIOUR. When I went to Israel, those Jews didnt look miserable to me. They make a lot of money panhandling from tourist. Money made BECAUSE of the history of JESUS..<smile> Have a good day King of Arabiya, I will continue praising the KING of the JEWS.
Thx Grace hope u to have great day ahead. But don't you think that Jew historians till date says the same thing that Jesus is fake. His miracles are not miracles but just magic tricks .....and accuse Jesus of having illicit relationship with Mari Macdiline whom they labeled as a famous prostitute of that time.
These claims were made by Jew historians of that time.
What do you think about it....

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Amen
'And up from the grave He Arose!
Amen indeed!!!

And what a gift God gave to us through His risen Son Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:16-17.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Praise God!!!
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<quoted text> One method is to right click on it and then copy URL. Then right click and paste where you want to insert it.
Thank you sir, that is very helpful, I will try that

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Thank you sir, that is very helpful, I will try that
OH. Also ...it does not show up as a "blue" link until it is posted...and it doesn't "always" work as expected.

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King_of_Arabiya 2 wrote:
<quoted text>T....
These claims were made by Jew historians of that time.
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No. Not "of that time", at least none who's writing survives.

We all are entitled to our opinions.

But we all must deal with the same facts.

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simplyput wrote:
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The more you become love, the less you sin ---possibly, but not probably
If you entertain sin in your mind, the less love you'll be?....getting too technical , mind boggling!
BLL, when you say "I have never said that" are you saying we are lieing about what you posted? You have most diffinetly said "To walk perfect, like Jesus instructed, to obey all the commandments.
Why ask for forgiveness, if we believe we are saved anyway?---I will always ask God to forgive me when I have sinned (I know when I goofed up and sinned, I have guilt and even though I have FAITH I am SAVED, I will ask forgiveness for the wrong I have done.
(Running out of space,)....So, LOVE is what you meant by being PERFECT, and can enter Heaven, not NOT SINNING ...and if you have LOVE, you won't Sin?
Hi SP,
I guess it would be more of an apology than asking for something that we already received but we are human and it is our nature to ask for forgiveness. I like your post. You are exactly right IMHO

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The law works on each of us in one of two ways. It either lays a heavy burden of guilt and shame on our hearts;*SNIPPED FOR SPACE**
.. religious shame and guilt create shackles of submission, compliance and ultimate oppression of the human spirit ..

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