Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#479255 Jan 20, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
ha ha!
Ok..
Never been one to engage in bs..
for very long..
So, hope you find another to bounce off of..
Ya kin call the stuff I quoted ta ya from yer Jesus BS all ya want...yer defac'n yer Jesus an digg'n yer own grave by yer own words.
As he said,,,It ain't what goes in the mouth, but what comes out of it that condemns a man...an that is what you will be judged by...(says yer Jesus).
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479257 Jan 20, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Yeah I saw a response t my post from someone saying they tested faith with science. IMO there was no point to respond to that. To each their own but to me that is not seeking and that is why it produces the results it does which is still no faith. I hear most claim they stay this engaged with Christianity claiming some sort of social oppression but nobody has ever given me an example of how what people believe affects them adversely on a day-to-day basis.
I am not a fan of extremism of any kind and that includes politics but people will always incorporate their own beliefs into their political agenda so it is a silly argument people make that somehow a campaign against organized religion would affect social change and plus I think it is ignoring so many other contributing factors when it comes to those who use religious beliefs to justify doing harm to others. If it wasn't that it would be something else as the problem is man's nature not the excuse he uses. IMO people just don't want to admit they are here to argue just for the sake of arguing because it takes away from the stance they want to claim as somehow being part of a more enlightened segment of society because they don't believe in God.
If they were as smart as they think they are they wouldn't spend all this time on Topix arguing these circular debates that have been recycled for years. The reason I haven't been around of late is I am going to start taking my own advice! I peeked in and read enough to know i wasn't interested. Any time there is some internal conflict people come out of the woodwork hoping to further rock the boat. But I agree, there will never be an agreement for people to go their separate ways and those who don't believe.. fine and those that do believe..fine. If people want to spend all their time scrutinizing something they don't even believe in that is their choice but I don't understand the motivation
(T) Peace
Bonsoir Skombolis, as you know my beliefs and Seraphine's we are neither fanatical nor extreme interstingly enough many of oir Christian brothers and sisters in the real world have critisized us for not doing enough for the faith. We remind them that we are told not to act as the Hypocrities do. We prefer to lead by example and not by mere words. People may so whatever they like but it is your actions people focus on. What do you think? As you can see Seraphine and I have cordial conversations with atheists and agnostics. I prefer to see the similarities in people and not the differences if you condemn or judge someone for differing beliefs then tell them not to do the same to you. We are told by Jesus to take the mote out of our own eye before we remove it from another person's. I find it ironic that not many are adhering to this advice. I suppose forums like these can bring out the worst characteristics in people.
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479258 Jan 20, 2013
*Say*
*Our*

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#479259 Jan 20, 2013
Sora wrote:
*Say*
*Our*
*hear*
*your*

?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#479260 Jan 20, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
If I missed any posts it was not intentional. I stopped trying to catch up with posts still left from last Monday.
Anyway just stopping in to say hello for the most part. Been enjoying a few days off
Have a good night everyone
(T) Peace
That was nice what ya said fer DoC Skom. I'm sure it will be taken ta heart by his folks an friends. TY BT42
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479261 Jan 20, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
*hear*
*your*
?
Bonsoir Monsieur, what is your opinion of my thoughts?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#479262 Jan 20, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>There beautiful would you agree.My wild squirrels,white doves and hummingbirds would have a ball of a time in tress like theses but they have to settle for the cotton wood and pines out here.

I have two cedar chest made from this type of wood.Really old ones.
I'd love to get a nice big cedar chest :)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#479263 Jan 20, 2013
Sora wrote:
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Bonsoir Skombolis, as you know my beliefs and Seraphine's we are neither fanatical nor extreme interstingly enough many of oir Christian brothers and sisters in the real world have critisized us for not doing enough for the faith. We remind them that we are told not to act as the Hypocrities do. We prefer to lead by example and not by mere words. People may so whatever they like but it is your actions people focus on. What do you think? As you can see Seraphine and I have cordial conversations with atheists and agnostics. I prefer to see the similarities in people and not the differences if you condemn or judge someone for differing beliefs then tell them not to do the same to you. We are told by Jesus to take the mote out of our own eye before we remove it from another person's. I find it ironic that not many are adhering to this advice. I suppose forums like these can bring out the worst characteristics in people.
Someone that I have clashed with frequently sent me a t-mail surprised I had a social position in tune with their own. I respected that this person sent the t-mail for several reasons and a point I hope I was at least somewhat successful in making was to remind this poster that what they see on Topix a lot of times is the fringe elements. Just like the people in the news often are extremists. People that are moderate and not controversial or think like the average person is not what is considered "newsworthy" these days. Shock-value sells and while many of the lunatics believe their own ramblings it doesn't change the fact that they get the ink because it controversial. And yes some things may resonate among other extremists but for the most part "news" is about shock.

Anyway my point was your average Christian isn't going around condemning people to hell or telling people natural disasters happened as punishment for gay people. Most the Christians I know are ones that know they have enough mess in their own backyard to worry about and that would make it hypocritical to be judging the mess in others. And they just want want most people want. They want to protect their loved ones, to have some measure of financial security, and to find happiness. And when they can to try to help those around them even in little ways. Whether people believe in God or not rarely changes the basic desires and needs and goals or people. What motivates us may be different when it comes to faith or how we deal with problems or where we turn for strength by the goals are still the same.

People, for the most part, are just people. Some good, some bad. And that line has nothing to do with faith. It is silly to let it divide us when there is common ground. I don't need to believe what you believe or vice versa for you and I to do something kind for someone. We don't need to agree politically on how to solve all the problems of the world in order to want the same things. I think the most ironic thing isn't even the hypocrisy but the absolute meaningless differences we focus on and let divide us.

And i don't mean meaningless as in the things themselves are meaningless but I mean there is no reason for the division. Gender, race, religion, ethnicity, etc. These are some of the biggest social dividers. But as far as society shouldn't the only divider that really matters the line between people who add to society and people who take away? Faith is between man and God. If you are someone who can treat others humanely than I don't care what you believe or what gender or you are or skin color you have, you will be OK in my book. And I mean you people in general, not you specifically.

(T) Peace

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#479264 Jan 20, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
<quoted text>Bonsoir Luciana, I am overjoyed to know you are fine, hopefully soon you will feel better :) I love you.
Love you too :)

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#479265 Jan 20, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>That was nice what ya said fer DoC Skom. I'm sure it will be taken ta heart by his folks an friends. TY BT42
You are welcome BT and thanks for the kind post

(T) Peace

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#479266 Jan 20, 2013
Sora wrote:
<quoted text>Bonsoir Lumina, the writings of Leo Tolstoy are meant to be studied and probed most of the novels he wrote are philisophical in nature. His Christian beliefs got him excommunicated from the Russian Orthodox Church. Tolstoy's understanding of the Bible and his Christian beliefs were later shaped by the Sermon on the Mount. What were the two things that Jesus commanded of his Disciples above all else Lumina? It is herein that your answer lies. I look foward to hearing your response. The writings of Tolstoy's Christian thoughts seem in my opinion heretical still to the Russian Orthodox Church. Go back to it when you are ready to read, this book influenced many non-violence movements including Gandhi's.
"Love The Lord your God with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your soul."
"Love your neighbour as yourself."
"Against these two commandments there is no law."
I tried to do it from memory, please excuse any errors made :)

I will go back to it, I usually do when I'm in a very focused frame of mind :)
<3

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#479267 Jan 20, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>dear pretend poster-
you have sided on this forum w some of the nastiest
topix bullies to date..

Not looking for trouble- just find you to be a fake.
Keep laughing at the true bullies here- you are making a
fool of yourself also..

Not spitting on you either (odd analogy)- open forum-
I have the right to voice my opinion, as you do.

Is this where I should pretend bless you- like your buddies do??
Blech!!
Titus 3:9-11

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#479268 Jan 20, 2013
Sora wrote:
<quoted text>
Bonsoir Monsieur, what is your opinion of my thoughts?
I was drawn to you and Seraphina from the beginning of your posts. I share your interest in the arts, and your desire to live your life with compassion for others, always respecting everybody's human dignity. Unlike you, I a a nobeliever. Nevertheless, I believe we would agree on most of the issues that are so controversial in today's society.
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479269 Jan 20, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone that I have clashed with frequently sent me a t-mail surprised I had a social position in tune with their own. I respected that this person sent the t-mail for several reasons and a point I hope I was at least somewhat successful in making was to remind this poster that what they see on Topix a lot of times is the fringe elements. Just like the people in the news often are extremists. People that are moderate and not controversial or think like the average person is not what is considered "newsworthy" these days. Shock-value sells and while many of the lunatics believe their own ramblings it doesn't change the fact that they get the ink because it controversial. And yes some things may resonate among other extremists but for the most part "news" is about shock.
Anyway my point was your average Christian isn't going around condemning people to hell or telling people natural disasters happened as punishment for gay people. Most the Christians I know are ones that know they have enough mess in their own backyard to worry about and that would make it hypocritical to be judging the mess in others. And they just want want most people want. They want to protect their loved ones, to have some measure of financial security, and to find happiness. And when they can to try to help those around them even in little ways. Whether people believe in God or not rarely changes the basic desires and needs and goals or people. What motivates us may be different when it comes to faith or how we deal with problems or where we turn for strength by the goals are still the same.
People, for the most part, are just people. Some good, some bad. And that line has nothing to do with faith. It is silly to let it divide us when there is common ground. I don't need to believe what you believe or vice versa for you and I to do something kind for someone. We don't need to agree politically on how to solve all the problems of the world in order to want the same things. I think the most ironic thing isn't even the hypocrisy but the absolute meaningless differences we focus on and let divide us.
And i don't mean meaningless as in the things themselves are meaningless but I mean there is no reason for the division. Gender, race, religion, ethnicity, etc. These are some of the biggest social dividers. But as far as society shouldn't the only divider that really matters the line between people who add to society and people who take away? Faith is between man and God. If you are someone who can treat others humanely than I don't care what you believe or what gender or you are or skin color you have, you will be OK in my book. And I mean you people in general, not you specifically.
(T) Peace
Bonsoir Skombolis, the matter of faith is indeed a deeply personal issue between human beings and God. Divisions are pointless since we all share this planet and should try to make it a better place.
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479270 Jan 20, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
"Love The Lord your God with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your soul."
"Love your neighbour as yourself."
"Against these two commandments there is no law."
I tried to do it from memory, please excuse any errors made :)
I will go back to it, I usually do when I'm in a very focused frame of mind :)
<3
Bonsoir Lumina, do you see?
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479271 Jan 20, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I was drawn to you and Seraphina from the beginning of your posts. I share your interest in the arts, and your desire to live your life with compassion for others, always respecting everybody's human dignity. Unlike you, I a a nobeliever. Nevertheless, I believe we would agree on most of the issues that are so controversial in today's society.
Bonsoir Monsieur, thank you for your words of kindness, I believe in the goodness of humanity and strive every day to see the best in all people and to nurture this within them so they may bring it to others. Beliefs are irrelevant in the face of compassion for all people, and again I emphasise ALL PEOPLE. We share core values Monsieur, the beliefs between us are not relevant in my eyes nor in Seraphine's although they may be to others. I long to see a world free of hate and fear,free of prejudice where perfect love and compassion exist. Bonne nuit mon ami.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#479272 Jan 20, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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I'd love to get a nice big cedar chest :)
Is alot of craftmanship goes into building cedar chest.
The wood that they are built out of is beautiful and the scent stays in them for ever.I had mine for years,one is a upright with brass locks on the doors and the other is a chest with brass straps and brass lock.Mine are the old antique type.If you ever get one you would never regret it and for sure you would never part with it.That is just how nice they are to have.
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#479273 Jan 20, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
Love you too :)
Bonsoir Lumina, I hope I was able to assist you in some small way and do feel free to speak to me or Seraphine anytime you wish. We shall always be here for you and I love you Lumina, in many ways you remind me of my twin sister.

“Romans 8:1.”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#479274 Jan 20, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Titus 3:9-11
Matthew 7:5.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#479275 Jan 20, 2013
Sora wrote:
<quoted text>
Bonsoir Monsieur, thank you for your words of kindness, I believe in the goodness of humanity and strive every day to see the best in all people and to nurture this within them so they may bring it to others. Beliefs are irrelevant in the face of compassion for all people, and again I emphasise ALL PEOPLE. We share core values Monsieur, the beliefs between us are not relevant in my eyes nor in Seraphine's although they may be to others. I long to see a world free of hate and fear,free of prejudice where perfect love and compassion exist. Bonne nuit mon ami.
Merci beaucoup, et bonne nuit, monsieur.

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