“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#478156 Jan 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
"And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee." - Deuteronomy 20:13-14
Drew H wrote:
Funny, neither of the passages you cited have a direct command from God to make slaves out of other people. I do believe your inference is incorrect.
Read it again.

There is a command to take human beings into captivity against their wills as spoils, meaning to take and treat them as property like cattle.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#478158 Jan 18, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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No thanks for what? Did I offer you something? I said deletion, not punishment.
Yes, just like in the movies, the good guy wins and the bad guy eventually loses. It is no savagery that in the, Ha Satan the Adversary and the people who either join Him in his evil doings or those who turn their backs on the Most High will get the chance to be with him...for ever.
The reason you and the rest of the "other-kind" in here don't like this doctrine of destruction of sin is that you all know you're in the wrong, so you hate the truth and love a lie. Since you don't want to change, you decide to hate the doctrine of salvation and the destruction of sin. You don't want to part ways with evil thoughts and deeds, you very well have a choice to cling to them. At the end of the day, you can't say you weren't told.
Just saying my friend.
Andrew (CS).
Thanks for the warning...or threat.

BTW, you didn't just say "deletion." You described a horrific eternal existence in a boiling maelstrom. It would scare the wits out of an innocent six-year-old, or a godbot. I on the other hand find it humorous, as I also do your belief in "Ha Satan the Adversary."

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#478159 Jan 18, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don't die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing.
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn't know they were doing anything wrong.
"The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Sorry, but slavery in the Bible is as bad as that. Read it yourself. Then tell me it is a valid moral guide. Wanna sell your daughter to me as a sex slave?
shrugs. again I can't sit here in arrogance and say 5000 to 2000yrs ago when there was almost no technology what that culture and ways of living was like. some people work for slave wages today. much people from where I talk about honduras and central america come to america and work for slave wages. you have people from bangladesh and india go to places like dubai and singnapore and work for slave wages. so slaves exist today. only instead of punish them with beatings, they get punish with threat of losing job and then can't feed family no have no where to live or worse get killed because they can't pay back the loan they take from people to go work in foreign land.

So instances where bible talk about slaves I no have no problem with that. I never live in that culture or time to give a credible response. But again if you think you more moral than bible God, then that you writer. I no think I more moral than bible God. I surrender to bible God, praise and worship Bible God because I know is the real God.

You tell Bible God to bug off, that you writer. stay on top of you moral highhorse then. You feel high and lofty to think you better and more moral than God, then good for you writer.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#478160 Jan 18, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I'm curious, what is your native language?
your curiosity stick inside of your a... and blow on the moon?

this topic is about Jesus and His followers,

not about your nousy curiosity and my native language?

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#478161 Jan 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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And isn't it a beautiful, sunny, blue sky California day?
It should hit 80 here in the basin. Probably warmer in the IE.

We have heaven here. I'll leave the boiling maelstroms to Counter Strike and his crew.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#478162 Jan 18, 2013
Serendipity wrote:
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"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!"
-- Carl Sagan, Astronomer
The quote can be found on page 213 of Carl Sagan’s,“The Demon-Haunted World—Science as a Candle in the Dark”
I don't know what context he said that in, but I don't agree with it. Of course absence of evidence is evidence of absence. It's not proof of absence, but it's certainly evidence.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#478163 Jan 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a bigot.
And you mean "than," not "then."
Oh but you are..........

You've demonstrated it a number of times..........

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#478164 Jan 18, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Expensive real estate, great museums, beautiful Victorian and modern architecture, decent mass transit, and a nexus of smart, creative people from all over the world. And very good coffee.
And the bay.

Don't forget the bay!
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#478165 Jan 18, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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Of course Andy won't see it. He'll deny it like so many other things he does in here that he denies when he's confronted with them.
He responds to everything shrink says. Than shows his true colors by trying to insinuate that shrink somehow represents Christianity (which is so laughable) even after shrink himself (along with many others) have told Andy that shrink isn't a Christian at all. The whole thing is hilarious because Andy thinks that he's getting a dig in on shrink and Christianity at the same time when in reality all he's doing is exposing himself for the religious zealot that he truly is.
Poor Andy can't even see that shrink is playing him like a fiddle. Everyone in here (except Andy) knows that shrink posts his vile statements for the explicit purpose of getting a reaction from somebody/anybody with the hopes that somebody/anybody will respond to him. And with the hook firmly entrenched in his lip Andy falls for it every time.
Hope the rest of your day is a good one. God bless.
I agree with you old pal

his disgraceful attacking christinity doesn,t fit at all my reamrk about worldwide ways of faken doctrines

but singles ons are attacked by him,using responds to me.

for me each single christian is beloved human crature who maybe is wrong,but not necessarly being christian is bad at all

CS
doing this personaly attacking single christians
I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS RANTS.
HE IS NOT MY ALLY AT ALL

rather lot of respect and credit of true believer you got from me,and few others

I defeat CS wicked character? completly not fit family of God

whorever what you are thinking about me, I AM WHAT I AM

God bless you RA old pal

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#478167 Jan 18, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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Oh but you are..........
You've demonstrated it a number of times..........
Show me a post of mine reflecting bigotry.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#478166 Jan 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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It should hit 80 here in the basin. Probably warmer in the IE.
We have heaven here. I'll leave the boiling maelstroms to Counter Strike and his crew.
Yup. It's 75 & sunny here. Feels kinda like Hawaii weather.

Slightly better than the 32 & snowing they're appreciating in London :)

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#478168 Jan 18, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>shrugs. again I can't sit here in arrogance and say 5000 to 2000yrs ago when there was almost no technology what that culture and ways of living was like. some people work for slave wages today. much people from where I talk about honduras and central america come to america and work for slave wages. you have people from bangladesh and india go to places like dubai and singnapore and work for slave wages. so slaves exist today. only instead of punish them with beatings, they get punish with threat of losing job and then can't feed family no have no where to live or worse get killed because they can't pay back the loan they take from people to go work in foreign land.
So instances where bible talk about slaves I no have no problem with that. I never live in that culture or time to give a credible response. But again if you think you more moral than bible God, then that you writer. I no think I more moral than bible God. I surrender to bible God, praise and worship Bible God because I know is the real God.
You tell Bible God to bug off, that you writer. stay on top of you moral highhorse then. You feel high and lofty to think you better and more moral than God, then good for you writer.
There is nothing moral about slavery. There is nothing moral about beating a slave to death, or selling your daughter into sexual slavery. Ever. It makes absolutely no difference what the culture was like thousands of years ago. At the very least, God's moral law is inconsistent and changes with human custom, if slavery was OK in the past but not now.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#478169 Jan 18, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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I don't know what context he said that in, but I don't agree with it. Of course absence of evidence is evidence of absence. It's not proof of absence, but it's certainly evidence.
For you exist not evidenc,nor absence

because absence didn't promise you to send evidence of HIS OWN ABSENCY for you

you are visible evidency of all denials of absency of His return but not around you nor your immoral cirle

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#478170 Jan 18, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Think how inspirational that would be embroidered into a pillow for the sofa.
I'm glad you're impressed.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Then you would advise me to submit just like you, right?
I wouldn't advise you to submit. All I do is ask you to open up your heart and mind to the possibility that there is a Creator. Clear your mind of preconceptions or the pain Christianity may have put you through (if it did) and see if He reaches out to you. Just give it one month. no criticisms, no negativity, no communicating with other atheists that you influence you away from your meditation. Just one month. After that, you decide independently whether you should submit or not.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I see another potential throw pillow apophthegm possibility here. Or maybe refrigerator magnets.
I never knew you saw monetary advantage in this. Fridge magnets could be a big seller you know.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
This is the most beautiful one yet.
I see you're overjoyed. Please, don't stop feeling this great joy on my account.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
What a prince. Or shar.
This psychology reminds me of a dog that has been beaten into submission, and now considers itself born to whacked by the rolled up magazine, and blessed on the days that it isn't.
I'm sorry you feel that way but you couldn't be more way off. There are wonderful things about humanity, but in our very natures we lean towards self and not togetherness. This self will cause us to want to rise above another by any means necessary (oft times), and will lead us to colonize and plunder nations, go for seconds at the buffet line when there's not enough left for the other person and kill someone for picking a fruit off the tree in our front yard. It is this ego, that causes us to be on the brink of war so often, when more than half the time, the situation has nothing to do with us. That's basically what I'm saying, not making man seem useless or utterly worthless. Just need saving, even if but from themselves. You can see it in the news or read it in the magazines. It is we who are destroying this planet, not some "god" that you like to mention and not teh apes in the jungle.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
That might be a tight squeeze on a pillow.
I know. How many pillow in your living room can you spare?
It aint necessarily so wrote:
That's a more reasonable size for a pillow.
Seriously, dude - The world you see depends on what glasses you have been fitted with. I have no interest in inhabiting your world with you. You see a world of failure, death, disease, strife and the like. I live in a beautiful world, where people are mostly friendly and trying to do good.
The world looks beautiful. Imagine how much more beautiful it looked 100 years ago, 800 years ago, 2000 years ago, 8000 years ago? It still has great beauty, but I'm not talking about what the planet looks like, I'm talking about human behavior on the planet and what we're doing to it and to each other. I'm not a Christian, but I must give some credit where it is due. It has tried to right many wrongs of the past and >most often times< be a message of peace and hope. They do great humanitarian work and such though it does come with you listening to the various doctrines. yet even within itself, Christianity isn't united. One things for sure though, it less because of religion and more because of men that created them.

Andrew (CS).
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#478171 Jan 18, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Is it any different than what when on for months in here about Just A Wet Sock? That went on for well over a year.
I agree however in people would be much better off to ignore it but we all know that ignoring doesn't work.
mostly you are first in this raw,
they rather ignore you and your seldom " stupid prince"comments worth not even speck of salt

those who ignore you or respond you with not pleasant respons,forced you to get out from here,and deal with your bro and sister unchristains like sexual pervert brain Kaitlin

just you make favor of all those "saints" if you will stay on unchristian topic and glorify wicked posts of Kaitlin Witch against God and Jesus Christ

those christians here are good people,and don't want to tell loud about WHO ARE YOU?
since I am friend of those singles ones humble God fearing people on this topic,
and I am wide open with my thinking??
I encouarage you,just depart from here forever,AND LEAVE ALONE ALL THOSE'"SAINTS"on this topic

this topic at end Won this battle and throw old timers constantly blaspheming God here, posting homosexuality,immorality posts,political posts, groudges against others

NOW THIS TOPIC IS HUMANY PURE AND HOLY ACCORDING TO HUMAN BELIEVERS IMPERFECT TERMS

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#478172 Jan 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup. It's 75 & sunny here. Feels kinda like Hawaii weather.
Slightly better than the 32 & snowing they're appreciating in London :)
Yeah, but London is great no matter the weather.

I'd head over in a heartbeat.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#478173 Jan 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Show me a post of mine reflecting bigotry.
Here you go.
Catcher1 wrote:
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I think he's from what we call the "backwoods" of the U.S.A.
Raw, primitive, unschooled and, most of all, xenophobic.
This one along with one to a poster I believe whose name was Susan(?). Or Maybe Sarah on the 'prove theres a God' thread.

If you recall Susan/Sarah(?) was from the mountains of West Virginia. You had thrown a number of insults her way based on the education levels you perceived of the folks in that area.

In a nut shell you stereotyped the intelligence of a group of people in a certain area of the country. Those posts were definitely more abrasive then this one, but it will do......

“Romans 8:1.”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#478174 Jan 18, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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I agree with you old pal
his disgraceful attacking christinity doesn,t fit at all my reamrk about worldwide ways of faken doctrines
but singles ons are attacked by him,using responds to me.
for me each single christian is beloved human crature who maybe is wrong,but not necessarly being christian is bad at all
CS
doing this personaly attacking single christians
I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS RANTS.
HE IS NOT MY ALLY AT ALL
rather lot of respect and credit of true believer you got from me,and few others
I defeat CS wicked character? completly not fit family of God
whorever what you are thinking about me, I AM WHAT I AM
God bless you RA old pal
You can drop the "old pal" garbage shrink. And you can get rid of the delusion you're having that I would ever align myself with you in any way, shape, or form. I consider you the most vile abusive down right sick poster in here. So don't for one second think that I want anything to do with you. All I wish for you is that you leave and never return. And that you get the help you so clearly need.

Is that clear enough for you shrink?
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#478175 Jan 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yeah, but London is great no matter the weather.
I'd head over in a heartbeat.
you suppose to bend your kneees on Tamiza bridge,
and loud pray and thanks God ,that He allowed you to see downtown of London

because you have not guts or resources to enter by yourselves criminal infested subburbs of London and slums full of imigrants from Iran,irag, Africa,Russia waiting to grab your pocket and draw you in close river without of witnesses

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#478176 Jan 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Yeah, but London is great no matter the weather.
I'd head over in a heartbeat.
Awwww! Come on then, i'm waiting!

It sure damn is tho!!!

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