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#477520 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Excuse me, but if I may butt in for just one brief comment.
The "alcun problema con questo (communicating in Italian)" is that other posters may not have a clue what you're talking about.
N'est ce pas?
Bonsoir mon ami, I apologize profusely. In this case then English shall do unless someone states their preference to Sora or myself.

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#477521 Jan 16, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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It pretty clear you have not.
Would you care to addresss this?

Genealogy of Jesus:

Matthew 1:1-16 Twenty-eight generations from King David to Jesus
Luke 3: 23-31 Forty-three generations from King David to Jesus

That's a discrepancy of fifteen generations, with NONE OF THE NAMES MATCHING EXCEPT FOR DAVID, JOSEPH AND JESUS. Are you going to tell me they are *both* accurate?

And *neither* genealogy is of Mary, either; otherwise, her name would have been mentioned. It is not. And even if it were, that's still a discrepancy of FIFTEEN GENERATIONS.

So, the bible proves itself to be a lie right there.

Or would you care to addresss these "last words" of jesus?

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, E’li, E’li, la’ma sa-bach’tha-ni? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
(Matthew 27: 46)

Which contradicts--

"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
(John 19:30)

Which contradicts--

Luke 23:46–“And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said,‘Father, into thy hands I commit my Spirit.’ And having said this, he breathed his last.”

Again, the bible proves itself to be a lie.

Or are you going to use that same lame excuse of "You're not spiritually discerning and I am, because you don't believe and I do" that every other fundie uses?

“Painters Find Beauty in Life ”

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#477522 Jan 16, 2013
Senecus wrote:
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Sak pase!
No offence,just know in certain areas their presence was not that welcome.
BTW, I know of what you speak, I was raised Catholic, 12+ yrs through their schools, ate with (food) priests and nuns...and found little mercy with The Sisters of Mercy("merciless" we used to call them). I no longer follow the liturgy but appreciate the depth of studies I received.
Pleasure ,za amin:)
Bonsoir Senecus. In certain areas in New Orleans they were not welcome either but they were not treated hostile just ignored. The nuns on the other hand did not like me because of the way I look, it sounds shallow but it is the truth. As stated it is not my place to judge but their actions are not concurrent with the teachings of love,justice and mercy. I mentioned before that people in power develop God complexes, especially in institutional seetings. Do you see my point? I however shall continue to let my light shine and hope that my words can make a difference to at least one person.

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#477523 Jan 16, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Bonsoir mon ami *Smiles* an apology is not necessary Kaitlin is entitled to her own opinions. I am not offended in the slightest.
Yes.

And I'm pleased to see that each of you good people is establishing a friendship with another good people .

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#477524 Jan 16, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Go stick a shovel handle as far up your ass as you like.
Catcher1 wrote:
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Madame Seraphine,
I apologize for my good friend Kaito.
But that's Kaito.
No, no, no, no, no, I wasn't saying that about *her*; I was saying that about the fundie!!

I'm getting to *like* Seraphine!

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#477525 Jan 16, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Buona sera Kaitlin, italiano è una delle tante lingue che parlano io e la mia anima gemella. Se avete mai desiderato di condurre le nostre conversazioni in italiano non avrò alcun problema con questo, tutto ciò che ti fa comodo. Non ho alcun desiderio di fare qualsiasi unfortable di persona.
P.S.
È di origini italiane sono così? Io stesso sono un creolo.
L'inglese è bene, molto grazie.

My grandmother is originally from Tuscany; she came to the States when she was in her early 20s. She used to give me a lot of grief over not learning Italian sooner, but we get along fine now. With her getting older, I worry about her forgetting her English.

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#477526 Jan 16, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Bonsoir Senecus. In certain areas in New Orleans they were not welcome either but they were not treated hostile just ignored. The nuns on the other hand did not like me because of the way I look, it sounds shallow but it is the truth. As stated it is not my place to judge but their actions are not concurrent with the teachings of love,justice and mercy. I mentioned before that people in power develop God complexes, especially in institutional seetings. Do you see my point? I however shall continue to let my light shine and hope that my words can make a difference to at least one person.
Power does that to people.

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#477527 Jan 16, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Buona sera Kaitlin, italiano è una delle tante lingue che parlano io e la mia anima gemella. Se avete mai desiderato di condurre le nostre conversazioni in italiano non avrò alcun problema con questo, tutto ciò che ti fa comodo. Non ho alcun desiderio di fare qualsiasi unfortable di persona.
P.S.
È di origini italiane sono così? Io stesso sono un creolo.
It's refreshing to find someone who speaks Italian; it catches me a little off-guard, because I keep thinking no one speaks Italian in this country.

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#477528 Jan 16, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Go stick a shovel handle as far up your ass as you like.
<quoted text>
No, no, no, no, no, I wasn't saying that about *her*; I was saying that about the fundie!!
I'm getting to *like* Seraphine!
And I like her too.

She's among the good, as Buck would say.

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#477529 Jan 16, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Buona sera Kaitlin, italiano è una delle tante lingue che parlano io e la mia anima gemella. Se avete mai desiderato di condurre le nostre conversazioni in italiano non avrò alcun problema con questo, tutto ciò che ti fa comodo. Non ho alcun desiderio di fare qualsiasi unfortable di persona.
P.S.
È di origini italiane sono così? Io stesso sono un creolo.
Catcher1 wrote:
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Excuse me, but if I may butt in for just one brief comment.
The "alcun problema con questo (communicating in Italian)" is that other posters may not have a clue what you're talking about.
N'est ce pas?
That's the whole point; it's a secret code understood only by the initiated.

;)

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#477530 Jan 16, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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I like that. I'm going to steal--I mean,*borrow*!--that from you.
;)
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Are you sure you aren't a Buddhist or a Taoist?
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My dad is a retired Master Gunnery Sergeant of the US Marine Corps, and my mom is a pediatrician and a practicing Strega (Italian Witch), who comes from eight generations of Strega. Her mother is originally from Tuscany, where she grew up in her family's tradition. I'm ninth generation.
I find Catholicism rather intersting. On the one hand, it was the Catholic Church that started the Spanish Inquisition and the Burning Times all over Europe, which caused the fiery deaths of thousands of innocent people; yet at the same time, the Catholic Church seems so Pagan because of its reverence for the Virgin Mary--who we Strega believe is yet another representation of the Mother Goddess. My nonna has a statuette of the Virgin Mary on her altar alongside a statuette of Venus, and one of the Goddess Diana.
I have never been to New Orleans. But it sounds like a fun place; jazz, the cuisine, the people...
Bonsoir Kaitlin, I am happy that you like the quote. I live by this daily.

I am neither Buddhist nor Daoist but my soulmate and I are well traveled we have been through Africa,Europe,Latin America and through parts of Asia. Buddhism and Daoism speak of gentleness and softness overcoming force. I see the wisdom is this. They also speak of mercy and compassion. I believe these traits are universal. We lived amongst in our time amongst Hindus,Buddhists,Muslims,Wicca ns and atheists as well as agnostics. And we all learned from eachother as it should be consider the story of the Good Samaritan we all should be this way, this to me is what Christianity is simply.

My parents are from an old, New Orleans Creole family that date back to the Colonial period. My parents taught me everything I need to know in regards to human nature and people. They are antiquarians I am an art restorer and my soulmate is a linguist. There are still Strega in Italy to this day we have lived amongst them as well. They were surprised to know my husband cooks very well, we are internationalist in our outlook on life.

In regards to the evil perpetuated by Catholocism toward people of your spiritual path and for any other suffering caused I am sorry and saddened by this. They paractice the synchronization in Vodoun in Haiti and in New Orleans we had a neighbor who was a Priestess of Vodoun. It is a blend of Catholocism and native African beliefs.

New Orleans is a wonderful city and shall always be home to me.

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Long Beach, CA

#477531 Jan 16, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Seraphine wrote:
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Buona sera Kaitlin, italiano è una delle tante lingue che parlano io e la mia anima gemella. Se avete mai desiderato di condurre le nostre conversazioni in italiano non avrò alcun problema con questo, tutto ciò che ti fa comodo. Non ho alcun desiderio di fare qualsiasi unfortable di persona.
P.S.
È di origini italiane sono così? Io stesso sono un creolo.
<quoted text>
That's the whole point; it's a secret code understood only by the initiated.
;)
Well, I'm semi-initiated in Italian and I speak Spanish, which helps. So if you don't want me to break the code, use big words. Accidenti!

Since: Sep 10

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#477533 Jan 16, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Bonsoir Kaitlin, I am happy that you like the quote. I live by this daily.
I am neither Buddhist nor Daoist but my soulmate and I are well traveled we have been through Africa,Europe,Latin America and through parts of Asia. Buddhism and Daoism speak of gentleness and softness overcoming force. I see the wisdom is this. They also speak of mercy and compassion. I believe these traits are universal. We lived amongst in our time amongst Hindus,Buddhists,Muslims,Wicca ns and atheists as well as agnostics. And we all learned from eachother as it should be consider the story of the Good Samaritan we all should be this way, this to me is what Christianity is simply.
My parents are from an old, New Orleans Creole family that date back to the Colonial period. My parents taught me everything I need to know in regards to human nature and people. They are antiquarians I am an art restorer and my soulmate is a linguist. There are still Strega in Italy to this day we have lived amongst them as well. They were surprised to know my husband cooks very well, we are internationalist in our outlook on life.
In regards to the evil perpetuated by Catholocism toward people of your spiritual path and for any other suffering caused I am sorry and saddened by this. They paractice the synchronization in Vodoun in Haiti and in New Orleans we had a neighbor who was a Priestess of Vodoun. It is a blend of Catholocism and native African beliefs.
New Orleans is a wonderful city and shall always be home to me.
Thank you for this, madame.

Very touching; very human.

“Hello Darlings!”

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#477532 Jan 16, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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I'd rather take a tire iron to their heads.
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I agree, one hundred percent! That's why I can't help questioning the validity of a religion that seems to believe that faith is more important than works.
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I like to believe that *informed* and *educated* opinions are more valid than those that are based merely on belief.
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Absolutely!
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I would *love* to continue corresponding! Building bridges is a lot more fun than burning them down.
Seraphine wrote:
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Bonsoir Kaitlin in regards to the comment about the tire, violence solves nothing
Actually, violence solves a lot! LOL!! It certainly took care of Hitler.

That's my dad's influence; like I said, he's a retired Marine. I'm told that while I inherited my mother's eyes, I also inherited my father's mouth. It gets me in trouble a lot around here.
Seraphine wrote:
<quoted text> Questioning what one bliefs is a valid practice even my mentor Mother Theresa often did this although the letters were found after her death. Doubt is normal I believe and all people struggle with it. In the bible the doubt expressed is actually quite numerous and rampant. After the doubt however and after the questioning of the heart and mind I believe as I have stated each person should be free to live their lives as they see fit.
Agreed, one hundred percent. Questioning one's own beliefs helps to either strengthen them or to abandon them and adopt new beliefs. I believe the evolution of the human spirit is constant.
Seraphine wrote:
<quoted text>.....I also believe in the power of science as well in fact there were many who were both. Blaise Pascal was one such person.
Science is good. It, too, questions itself all the time--it retains what makes sense, and casts off that which does not. If science didn't change through learning new facts, it wouldn't be science.

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#477534 Jan 16, 2013
simplyput wrote:
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Yes, PRIDE is one of the worst (diseases), lol -, to have , on anything , not just in Religion, or in your beliefs. It is really bad in your FAITH though, because that is your SOUL your messing with, and you seem to think you know more than even GOD.
Pride reminds me of a big tall building (skyscrapers), but weak foundation, and it will FALL one of the days, the taller ( PROUDER) you get in yourself.
Pride is one thing; excessive pride is sumpthin' else. I take pride in my work, but I'm not building any shrines to myself.

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#477535 Jan 16, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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It pretty clear you have not.
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Would you care to addresss this?
Genealogy of Jesus:
Matthew 1:1-16 Twenty-eight generations from King David to Jesus
Luke 3: 23-31 Forty-three generations from King David to Jesus
That's a discrepancy of fifteen generations, with NONE OF THE NAMES MATCHING EXCEPT FOR DAVID, JOSEPH AND JESUS. Are you going to tell me they are *both* accurate?
And *neither* genealogy is of Mary, either; otherwise, her name would have been mentioned. It is not. And even if it were, that's still a discrepancy of FIFTEEN GENERATIONS.
So, the bible proves itself to be a lie right there.
Or would you care to addresss these "last words" of jesus?
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, E’li, E’li, la’ma sa-bach’tha-ni? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
(Matthew 27: 46)
Which contradicts--
"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
(John 19:30)
Which contradicts--
Luke 23:46–“And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said,‘Father, into thy hands I commit my Spirit.’ And having said this, he breathed his last.”
Again, the bible proves itself to be a lie.
Or are you going to use that same lame excuse of "You're not spiritually discerning and I am, because you don't believe and I do" that every other fundie uses?
And for this I got a peanut? Hey, all I did was to quote the bible.

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#477536 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Thank you for this, madame.
Very touching; very human.
Bonsoir mon ami thank you.

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#477537 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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And I like her too.
She's among the good, as Buck would say.
*Oo*-rah!

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#477538 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Well, I'm semi-initiated in Italian and I speak Spanish, which helps. So if you don't want me to break the code, use big words. Accidenti!
Dude, you're always welcome!

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#477539 Jan 16, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Would you care to addresss this?
Genealogy of Jesus:
Matthew 1:1-16 Twenty-eight generations from King David to Jesus
Luke 3: 23-31 Forty-three generations from King David to Jesus
That's a discrepancy of fifteen generations, with NONE OF THE NAMES MATCHING EXCEPT FOR DAVID, JOSEPH AND JESUS. Are you going to tell me they are *both* accurate?
And *neither* genealogy is of Mary, either; otherwise, her name would have been mentioned. It is not. And even if it were, that's still a discrepancy of FIFTEEN GENERATIONS.
So, the bible proves itself to be a lie right there.
Or would you care to addresss these "last words" of jesus?
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, E’li, E’li, la’ma sa-bach’tha-ni? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
(Matthew 27: 46)
Which contradicts--
"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
(John 19:30)
Which contradicts--
Luke 23:46–“And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said,‘Father, into thy hands I commit my Spirit.’ And having said this, he breathed his last.”
Again, the bible proves itself to be a lie.
Or are you going to use that same lame excuse of "You're not spiritually discerning and I am, because you don't believe and I do" that every other fundie uses?
Yes I will address you with this;

First;You therefore have no excuse you who pass judgment on sone one else for at whatever point you judge the other you are condemning yourself because you who pass judgement do the same
things.Now we know tha God's judgment agaist those who do such things is based on truth.So when you a mere man/woman pass judgment on them and yet do the same things do you think you will escape God's judgement or do you show comtempt for the riches of his kindness,torerance and patience not realizing that God,s kindness will lead you to repentences.
Who are you to judge Jesus genelogy.

Second;We know that the law is good if one uses it properly We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels the ungodly and sinful and the irreligious.
Who are you a address what I may beleive or not beleive this is not your walk it is mine.

Third;We hear that some among you are idle.They are not busy they are busybodys.You were this label well.

Finally I care not what your opinions are,do not care to discuss or argue any of your points.This is my last post to you.You have nothing that would interest me.

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