Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Sep 12

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#477357 Jan 16, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Forgive me for my intrusion, but I saw your post and felt compelled to answer. Again, I hope you can forgive me.
First, the capitalization and such of the letter "G/g" in the bible is strictly based on the beliefs of the translators. In Hebrew and Greek, there were no upper or lower case letters. Therefore, each and every time the term was used in scripture, the term was identical each and every time. To give you an illustration, I'll quote a few verses while providing the exact reference number that directs us to the Hebrew rendering of the English term.
Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God [H430] is God [H430] of gods [H430], and Lord of lords, a great God [H430], a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward.
Exodus 20:1-3
And God [H430] spake all these words, saying,
I am the LORD thy God [H430], which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Thou shalt have no other gods [H430] before me.
Psalm 96:5
For all the gods [H430] of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.
Then, as men, but still called "gods" and with a lowercase "g".
Exodus 22:28
Thou shalt not revile the gods [H430], nor curse the ruler of thy people.
And to add an interesting development...
Psalm 8:5
For you have made him a little lower than the angels [H430], and have crowned him with glory and honor.
And now, the English translation with the reference number to the Greek rendering...
1Corinthians 8:5-6
For though there be that are called gods [G2316], whether in heaven or in earth,(as there be gods [G2316] many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God [G2316], the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
John 10:35
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods [G2316]? If he called them gods [G2316], unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken...
As you can see, in each and every case, the same exact term is used, whether it be used to identify Father, men, or even angels. And what we must take into consideration is that, if the term used is identical, then so must be the definition. The difference, then, would have to be in the context of the surrounding content.
Again, I apologize for my intrusion. I hope I've helped, though.
Until next time, my friend...
Shalowm.
No need for apology BLL.
I have always thought this as well and I appreciate your help. Thanks and you didnt intrude. Have a great day BLL.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#477358 Jan 16, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>If it is impossible to judge your god as a human, how can you then make this declarative statement?
Because God thinks exactly like it's believers do. You'd think that would be a clue, right? Especially when one religious person is arguing with another about what God's opinions are.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#477359 Jan 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Not by my standards.
Yes, we are aware of your mortal standards.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
This is the "puny minds" argument. It's used to quench the cognitive dissonance that conflicting ideas produce - the voice that says, "that doesn't make sense."
Well, it is true isn't it? If you had a concept of a "god" or a "deity", what, do you believe he would be on the same level and playing field as you? That wouldn't make much sense now would it. As the stars are high above our heads so is Yahweh's wisdom far higher than ours.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
That is done by making the ridiculous acceptable using the puny minds ruse, and in Christianity, calling the inner voice Satan. The claim is that our minds are simply too puny to understand the god's infinite wisdom and transcendent justice. We're like ants compared to him, so we shouldn't trust our own puny ant minds when they tell us that something attributed to the god is immoral or absurd.
Wait a minute. Are you another one of those people who want to have bridge to nowhere conversations that sound like arguments? Why do you sound so disgruntled? Ants are very smart creatures by the way. They learn and adapt to situations and circumstances very quickly. Your thinking is neither critical nor is it objective but rather very one sided. How is it you hope to comprehend if you take such a biased and enagered stance? Unless of course you originally asked the questions just to ridicule the answers.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
We should just believe, however crazy it sounds to our puny ant minds, because it would be arrogant of us to think for ourselves. That's your message, too, is it not?
No, we have proven countless times that when we think for ourselves absent the creator we err, and we err with often very devastating consequences.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
The puny mind ruse is deplolyed whenever you are asked to accept the ridiculous, which comes in two flavors, one for each of the two distinctly human cognitive faculties: intellection - what is true - and conscience - what is good and right:
You find when one thinks to highly of their own intellects they end up losing much of their vision. The very intelligent ones among us are the most difficult to reason with and are stubborn to a fault with taking correction or even admitting they were worong in any regard.

Continued....

Since: Sep 12

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#477360 Jan 16, 2013
Drew H wrote:
<quoted text>
Me too, Grace. I wonder if they ever sing this song that Fannie Crosby wrote:
1. Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine!
O what a foretaste of glory divine!
Heir of salvation, purchase of God,
born of his Spirit, washed in his blood.
This is my story, this is my song,
praising my Savior all the day long;
this is my story, this is my song,
praising my Savior all the day long.
2. Perfect submission, perfect delight,
visions of rapture now burst on my sight;
angels descending bring from above
echoes of mercy, whispers of love.
3. Perfect submission, all is at rest;
I in my Savior am happy and blest,
watching and waiting, looking above,
filled with his goodness, lost in his love.
And I hope you have a day full of blessings, too.
I LOVE this song Drew.
Just like with Amazing Grace, They sing the song, but DO they HEAR the message in there? Thanks Drew, I have that song stuck in my head now but thats ok..I will just sing it.:)

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#477361 Jan 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Here are examples of each. First, the intellectually ridiculous:
"Everything that exists must have a creator, therefore god exists. God doesn't need a creator because he is out of time. If that seems contradictory to you, it is because your mind is too puny to comprehend it, like an ant trying to learn calculus."
Morally ridiculous:
While that's quite entertaining, you sang that very out of tune and tempo. Nothing exists outside of the Creator. The theory of Evolution (which is just a theory) is desperately flawed because to the millions of nerves in the eyes, one would wonder what got developed first, and when you had two or four footed beasts, what diod they have first, eye to see, mouth to eat or ears to hear first? These questions are usually answered with long-winded intellection mumbo-jumbo that ultimately and eventually evades the question. Just words and intellectual notations that end up confusing the person asking the questions. I wonder where you get your creative mind from? Did that part of your creative mind and imagination evolve from something?
It aint necessarily so wrote:
"God's love for man is perfect. Those that don't worship him will be turned over to a demon to be tortured forever. That is perfect love even if you can't see it because of your puny mind, like a child crying about getting a vaccine."
Typical. All you atheists sound the same. You are all members of a religion that worships or exalts self but believes in no Creator and no devil either. Except by believeing there is no Creator or Supreme Power, you unintentionally worship Samael anyway.

He laid down a plan of salvation for man helping us to understand that we cannot lean on our own mortal, finite selves for survival so whether we like it or love it, we need Him. Doing our own thing like stubborn, rebellious children leads us on a path of danger. While He loves us, most parents with excellent morals will not protect their murdering child from going to jail to pay for their crimes.

A truly loving parent wouldn't shelter and lie for their chiold if they knew the child was like a Jeffrey Dahmer or a Pol Pot. As much as He (The Creator) loves us, He shall not suffer us to pass the gates of His Kindom with our polutant virus called sin. It must be purged from us. We must show that we want nothing to do with it. If we cling to it and love our own way, then destroying the sin may mean destroying you also.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Once you perfect this, cognitive dissonance is dead, and so are your hopes of escaping the matrix.
I think you are. They call what you are doing apologetics.
Thanks for the compliment, except I shall not be calling you any name, at least I will try not to do so. He surely doesn't need my defense, but I believe the day will come when He will stand up for His own name.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

Since: Mar 10

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#477362 Jan 16, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Oh dear...,Good Morning Le le... I tell you what...since you've made a post like this I will answer fully then resort to mostly scripture later for peace sake. Now, I would admit to you that if I were able to "make up" the topic of you having been on an "anal sex" site on the fly (just like that)... or lying about some t-mail conversation discussed a few weeks back then I would agree that would be real evil.
I am going to stop reading here, for I can see you are still being
deceitful and the rest of your very long post will prolly be as full
of pure BS as this paragraph is.

Your mere exsistance on topix is pure evil!
You are someone who wants the world to look at in
awe and exhault.
- And that's just simply not going to be me.

I can't stand liers and thiefs.. and that- Q - is exactly who you are.

I repeat-
I hope, for the sake of those who may be influenced by you in any way,you find the Light.

p.s. I knew you couldn't respond to me with "just scripture"
and
would have to write a book of rebutal- your over blown ego just wouldn't allow it..huh??

Thanks for proving my point..
lol.

Since: Sep 12

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#477363 Jan 16, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
That is obvious to all.
Hi G...Show me how you do that..( Quote what so and so says thing) I cant figure that out. Do you know what I am talking about? Example...."G_O_D said...quote.. well, u get the picture, I hope..LOL

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#477364 Jan 16, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
Okay.
it aint necessarily so has made it difficult for me to catch up. Unfortunately, I'm still on page 22995.
Sorry. But I hope that I have at a minimum stimulated you and given you new arguments to consider.

If so, isn't that a good thing?
Brother Lee Love wrote:
it aint necessarily so...I thought you would have known by now that I'm not your average believer.
Sorry again. I don't really know you that well except to say that you have always seemed to be in good control of your emotions and language, which I appreciate.

As for your ideas - if they are different, I haven't seen enough of them to recognize that. Please share.

BTW, does the thread get the sense yet that as hostile as I may be to some ideas and institutions, I never attack the poster until he or she goes over the decency line. Feel free to express any idea about anything without fear of being personally assaulted for it.

I confess: I don't respect faith, I don't believe in gods, I find the bible to be flawed and inauthentic, and I consider the church to be a net societal burden. If you can hear those ideas without experiencing them as a personal attack or a reason to retaliate - and I believe that you always have - then you are OK with me.
Brother Lee Love wrote:
You're making the mistake of not adhering to what's written, but to the interpretations that the leaders of Christendom have invented throughout the years.
Can you be specific? Can you show me where I did that?

Please forgive me for always requiring evidence to support claims. It's part of my skeptical nature.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#477365 Jan 16, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
That would have to be the case if you're going to use verses that you believe says something they don't, then request that I not use verses to prove my beliefs.
Use any verses you need. Did I request that you not use any particular part of your bible?

I would just remind you when you do to remember that your bible is not authoritative to an unbeliever - no more than the Qur'an is to you or me. So, when you cite scripture to an unbeliever, please keep in mind that bible citations are only evidence of what the bible says, not of what is true.
Brother Lee Love wrote:
Existence, itself, is proof of "God."
Not to a skeptic.

Existence itself is proof that something exists, not of a god. And even if it did indicate the likelihood of intelligent design, there is no reason to think that any one named god is more likely to have been that designer and creator than any other, unless you can find one with a creation myth that got it right.
Brother Lee Love wrote:
The bible does not say that we're to have faith that "God" exists. We're to know He exists. And again, existence alone is the seed of belief.[/QUOTE

Why should I believe the bible over other books? Faith is the foundation of Christianity as it is all religions, and in your case, it begins with faith in the bible as the message from a genuine god. You have that, and I don't.

[QUOTE who="Brother Lee Love"]Thank you for your time and consideration.
And thank you for your good cheer.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#477366 Jan 16, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you would, but that would be cheating and considered abuse of power by many. We would as human beings would like to fix things the way we like it if we were All Powerful, I mean, I would try to make my life perfect (for me), but we would long cease to exist if we had that kind of power.
<quoted text>
My god? I wonder who's that? In either case, this is why you're not a god.
Correction. Read carefully friend; I never said He always does good, I say He always does what's RIGHT. Big difference. Good and Right aren't necessarily one in the same. He is Righteous.
<quoted text>
Yes, your standards along with everyone elses amounts to a very evil world plunged in the abysmal muck of chaos. Regardless of what you thing He does or doesn't do, He is still allowed to do it. He doesn't run a democracy. He is not governed by the Law we're under because He's perfect. Also, if He creates, he is very well allowed to destroy I would think. Makes sense no? Yes.
<quoted text>
You sound angry. Either that or if I didn't know better I would think you're trying to get under my skin. Not a great idea. Since I've been back, no one here has quite succeeded in doing so. Then again, why would you be angry and who are you angry at? Yourself? They being Adam and Eve were perfect and sinless. Like little children they were asked "Thou Shalt Not!" They chose to listen to the Serpent and paid the price. It is simple. Your mom tells you not to climb the wall but you are innocent, you know no better. The child next door does it and tells you that you can do it too. You tell him that your mom said not to. He then tells you that your mom isn't around so she won't know. You decide in your limited wisdom that you're actually smarter than your mom so you climb the wall, fall off and break your arm. Then you blame the boy next door and your mom even for building the stupid wall. You blame everyone else except yourself. Tragic.
Lesson learned teh hard way. We all still feel the effects of the broken arm after all this time.
CS.
yeasterday insulted dr Shrink on every post and spredaed lies around,

today you have not guts even answer to my last respond to you,

YOUR COWARDISH SILENCE IS PROFF WHAT KIND OF LAIR ARE YOU,

GUY WITH SMILY WORDS INSIDE CONSPIRING TRACHEROUS TACTICS TO DESTROY CHRISTIANS MINDS

CYBER COWARD

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#477367 Jan 16, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
"you are a forgiving guy" eh?
Yes, I am. But I require a sign of contrition.
LAWEST100 wrote:
and obviously one who places yourself on the same level of our exalted saviour with your casual dismissual of him
Actually, higher. It just happens to be the case that yes, I don't think much of your god or his ethics. You need to get over that. If you insist on being outraged by it, you will be. If you insist on going on the attack because of it, well, good luck with that.

The fact is that I think that I am a better person than the character of Jehovah as depicted in the bible. For one thing, I would never torture you. Never.

And if I did, it wouldn't be for eternity, without hope of parole, and to no benefit to anybody except a sadist.

Do you want to keep forcing me to either accede to your claims of your god's alleged greatness, or blaspheming him in rebuttal? Because it will be the latter choice.

The truth be told, in my estimation, your god is one of the most evil villains of all fiction. That's not intended as an insult, but rather as a sincere opinion. Can you rebut it by showing me a creature from literature that did more harm to mankind than Jehovah? Here's a fuller explication of that claim if you care http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

Are you outraged? Get over it. You brought it up.

Should I deny that I think so because it offends you? Why would I?

You need to wake up. The times they are a-changing.

Is that grounds for verbal warfare rather than debate? Your call.
LAWEST100 wrote:
typical atheism/agnostic behavior, seen it all before my embittered friend
I don't think that you have. You seem completely oblivious to your present predicament. People like you are nearly done oppressing skeptics, and if you're smart, you'll stand down rather than give cause to treat you in kind.

I don't want to attack you. But I won't sit for your disrespect or insolence.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#477368 Jan 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
What does that mean? Please expand on that. What if I said that you can be a believer for believing's sake? What would that mean?
Except I don't just believe, I know.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You're diverting from my point. My point was that if perfect and inviolable knowledge of the future can be said to exist, then that future is predetermined. Merely calling the way it plays out a choice doesn't make it one.
You fail to understand. Think about it again. You know the orange will fall from the tree, not just that, you somehow know when it will fall off the tree and where it will land and the consequences of the fall. Does it mean you caused the orange to fall? Does it mean because you had foreknowledge means you caused the future to unravel the way it did?
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Perfect knowledge of the future - omniscience - precludes the possibility of contingency. How can you possibly get around that except with help from your reader in the form of a willingness to believe what his faith declares is the case?
You're repeating yourself in several different ways.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
If you need to believe that free will and omniscience are compatible, and your thinking is faith based, then you can and will. But if the words need to make sense, well, they don't.
Sorry they don't make sense to you. You are reading them at only face value or rather surface words. If you never believed in the spirit then spiritual matters will either be overlooked or just escape you all together. You would hope or assume that my thinking is faith based but I go on more than just faith, I go on works also, basically evidence. I have proven and seen for myself but I cannot help you see if you block your mind or you think it is ridiculous altogether. I cannot lend you my mind to be a Sherman tank for your intellectual hedge-rows of Normandy. In other words, I cannot make you see, no one can, and the Most High won't lest it be His will. he will not force upon you what you do not want. You didn't acknowledge Him, so don't misunderstand why He doesn't acknowledge you right way either. It is a mind set. Your mind is a powerful tool. You are clearly using yours in ways in which it benifits you, but how it benifits you helps me none.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
"When the philosopher's argument becomes tedious, complicated, and opaque, it is usually a sign that he is attempting to prove as true to the intellect what is plainly false to common sense”- Edward Abbey
Yes, nice quote. The fact that you fancy yourself as an intellect shows that you think too highly of yourself. Sometimes, simple...works....better. take yourself down a notch and maybe you will see the stars better from where you are rather than being on a cloudy mountain top.

:)

Andrew (CS).
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#477369 Jan 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Use any verses you need. Did I request that you not use any particular part of your bible?
I would just remind you when you do to remember that your bible is not authoritative to an unbeliever - no more than the Qur'an is to you or me. So, when you cite scripture to an unbeliever, please keep in mind that bible citations are only evidence of what the bible says, not of what is true.
<quoted text>
Not to a skeptic.
Existence itself is proof that something exists, not of a god. And even if it did indicate the likelihood of intelligent design, there is no reason to think that any one named god is more likely to have been that designer and creator than any other, unless you can find one with a creation myth that got it right.
<quoted text>
And thank you for your good cheer.
Somethings just have to enter our OWN minds, and have it to happen to us personally, for us to accept it. It is better to get no information than to get the wrong information. Continue to do your OWN thinking.

Hope you have a great 2013.

Since: Mar 10

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#477370 Jan 16, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
HOLD ON A MINUTE QUIN....Do my eyes decieve me?? You said to LeLe in the above post.{ quote} YOU SAID..I never did get a specific apology for those accusations...please stop stooping so low to being a Hippo-crite,.....YET YOU NEVER apologized to me for the accusations of being "cindy"?? So in your OWN words, YOU are a Hypocrite because of your false accusations against me that went UNAPOLOGIZED.. Your pride and ego is so unattractive and so UN Christlike..Get behind me satan
Oh man!!

lol!

I knew Q's "book of rebutal" was going to be full of pure bs!
Ask him and Lawlest how mant accounts they have had banned by topix.
Think I only thought he was fear 4.. yet he has had to create so many new accounts to be able to spread his god's "love" here
on topix.. who wouldn't be curious who he is??

Makes my heart happy that I see someone (you) who is not
afraid to stand up to this guy and his lies and hypocrisy.

I never look for, or ask for, anyone to agree with me or my
thoughts and beliefs..don't need or want allies here. Yet,
it's nice to be on the same page as someone else.
:)

And- btw, don't wait for that apology- Q planted that seed of doubt regarding your character- he is very smug and can't "win", in his mind,
unless he slanders those who oppose his hate speach..

Unreal- it truly is!

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#477371 Jan 16, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> "you are a forgiving guy" eh?.........and obviously one who places yourself on the same level of our exalted saviour with your casual dismissual of him, typical atheism/agnostic behavior, seen it all before my embittered friend, like I said before that we will pray for you but as you are not interested in spiritual knowledge for edifying purposes..........I have no interest in defining anything for you in either MY words or in any other manner.
How about me?

Would you define spirituality for Catcher1?

I trust that I haven't incurred your wrath.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#477372 Jan 16, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Simplyput..LOl, Yes, Robots that is disguised in the form of religious expectations that they place upon themselvesselves and upon each other. They are a familiar set: church membership and participation; being the spiritual leader of the family or the submissive wife; being faithful to family and friends, having a regimented prayer time; consistently tithing and giving; reading the Bible daily. These are all admirable traits, but if we do them in order to appear more pleasing to God, to other Christians, or even to ourselves, then they are effectively a law..–a law of religious performance. Just like satan uses our failures to keep the Ten Commandments, the enemy uses our failures to keep these religious expectations. He brandishes them in our face to weaken our relationship with God –to divide us from Him so that we become dependent upon ourselves rather than upon God. Although that division occurs only in their minds, it diverts their focus from Him onto themselves –leaving them feeling insecure, worthless, empty and defeated.
Oh wow. If you are really going to make effort to keep it civil, then you'd do well to not make deceitful statements like the one above. You allow RA to rev you up like a Chevy Camaro yet you don't see the gross offenses against the Law you're committing. Satan would not tell you to try keeping the Law, why?

Revelation 22:14 (KJV) last chapter in the Bible,[read carefully]:

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
********

Rest assured, Satan isn't reminding you of those scriptures, the bible is the one showing us.

I'm sorry you have to loom at things so hap-hazardly, but I suppose everyone can't be the same nor understand the same.

[Sigh]

Andrew (CS).

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#477373 Jan 16, 2013
Drew H wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Scott. Well if the truth be told, Le le knows my beliefs, and she knows that I don't agree with her in her belief that all will be saved in the end. The difference is that we have genuine respect for each other and speak to each other in ways that are not condescending, therefore the respect remains. So tell the whole story, not just an excerpt from it.
Furthermore, are we not supposed to encourage others when we see growth?
Hi Drew,

Sorry you got pulled into this nonsense..

You are correct, we have disagreed on matters and have
always been respectful towards one another. There is something about you that brings that forth
in a person.

I know what's written in the Bible, have studied and worshipped my whole life,I do still read/study, it's just at this time in my life- I am choosing to believe none will
perish.

I do not force this belief on anyone.. these are my thoughts-
it's what I feel in my heart.
I do not believe we should dare to judge another's soul.
IMO- that's not our "job"..or business..

I am not living by a man made definition of who I should be in Christ.

I believe Christ is Love. I believe that His Love can beat out
death time after time..And my friend, I believe it will..
and has already..
:)
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#477374 Jan 16, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh wow. If you are really going to make effort to keep it civil, then you'd do well to not make deceitful statements like the one above. You allow RA to rev you up like a Chevy Camaro yet you don't see the gross offenses against the Law you're committing. Satan would not tell you to try keeping the Law, why?
Revelation 22:14 (KJV) last chapter in the Bible,[read carefully]:
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
********
Rest assured, Satan isn't reminding you of those scriptures, the bible is the one showing us.
I'm sorry you have to loom at things so hap-hazardly, but I suppose everyone can't be the same nor understand the same.
[Sigh]
Andrew (CS).
YOU BAMBO
are part of this worldwide man of lawlesenss prerequisite(2 thess 2;3-4) this man of lawlesness and all their members has been worldwide revealed by all those churches and sects like yours themselfes(2 Thess 2;3-4) and lead to the comming temple Judgement of Daniel 8;11-14 very soon in present time
This may very well will be complimented by 8th King inspired global event series in the near future-for stougles to establish xionistin NWO and same time Armagedon

you are not excluded as part of worldwide deceivers and Liars
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#477375 Jan 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
How about me?
Would you define spirituality for Catcher1?
I trust that I haven't incurred your wrath.
would you define your dead heart without of spirituality?

I rather see only you and complete dark wrath of whole you alone in complete darkness of your dead spirituality denials

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#477376 Jan 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I've read it several times, and studied it as well.
BTW, there was never a book on any bookshelf that was ever so infrequently purchased or read by the owner.
<quoted text>
Here's another unacceptable behavior from some ill-mannered theists: the threat of hellfire to an unbeliever. This is nothing less than terrorism, like a ransom or blackmail note. It has no effect on a skeptic apart from earning you a little contempt.
Did I threaten you, or merely contradict something that you hold dear? I understand that you don't like that, but sorry, but that can't be a factor. This is a marketplace of assorted ideas, some contradictory to yours. It is not a protected environment like your Sunday services where you are free to threaten and impugn skeptics with immunity.
When you cross certain lines, you will invite a whole new way of conversing. As I told LAWLESS, respect is mutual or not at all.
So now I have to tell you how useless it is for you to shake your Scary Chicken On The Stick with jingly bells at somebody like me. Am I expected to swoon in fear? It's not going to happen.
The Scary Chicken is pretty useless with mature skeptics. You've already gleaned everybody in my demographic that is susceptible to that vapid threat. You just appear impotent and ridiculous doing it here.
glad you read the bible, good for you.

hell is not a threat, hell is real.

Your contradictions don't bother me, why would it? you have your philosophy I have mine. Jesus was never offended with unbelievers, he either ignore them or tell them the truth. so nothing you can say in your contradictions bother me one bit writer.

I respect your views. I can't respect you because I don't know you. but the billboard have many different views and I respect the fact that you write them.

as far as you scary chicken I not know what you talking about. if you think Jesus and Christianity is a myth that would be Stupid for you to be afraid right? are you stupid?

you can't fear what you believe is a myth. so since you bring up fear you need to ask yourself why you so insecure about what you believe. What is the [reason] why you God "Reason" not enough for you. if you was at peace with you God reason, you wouldn't have fear.

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