Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#476554 Jan 13, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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See Senecus' post in reference to the above. It is impossible to measure what is not there.
Your arguement was based on the ABSENCE of mentioning the Temple destruction:

"One of the main evidences for this is that the destruction is not mentioned or alluded to in Revelation."

Your arguement was faulty, Senecus' was not.

You were in error. I pointed it out and you are unable to admit. Such a fragile ego you have.

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#476555 Jan 13, 2013
An eye for an eye.

You have heard it was said,Eye for eye,and tooth for a tooth.But I tell you Do not resist an evil person.If someone strikes you on the right check turn to him the other also.

And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic let him have your cloak as well.If someone forces you to go one mile,go with him two miles.
Give to the one who asks you and do not run away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

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#476556 Jan 13, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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Hmm, yet Quin did just the thing you say only those that believe in OSAS are doing.
Quote: "The demonic teaching is the Antinomianistic "Once Saved Always Saved" Gospel"
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
And from another Quin post.
Quote: "it's the Once Saved Always Saved demonic teaching that is the issue.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
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I guess we shouldn't be surprised that you overlooked those posts in your zeal to accuse only the believers in OSAS of (what was it you said? Oh yes now I remember) quote: "Does anybody really believe if it was being said to someone who believes OSAS that their beliefs were of the devil, that they are blinded by God, that they are a pharisee, that they don't trust in Christ and etc, etc, etc that it would be those people being attacked?
Golly gee, what do you know, they are being attacked as well there Skom.
Next time take off your rose colored tunnel vision glasses Skom.
I have even read those posts yet John but since I repeated at least 3-4 times to the room that I am against anybody saying "of the devil" or "true believer" and even specifically said something to Lawest and another poster (who I don't want to drag into this as her posting style shows she doesn't go that route intentionally imo) then it is just silly to claim I have not maintained my position throughout

You know, instead of being like 70 years old and worrying about who else is being called out, maybe you ought to just stop and concentrate on your own actions? Does it really matter what anyone else has done or who has been corrected for you to finally stop with YOUR nonsense? An adult of any age should not be using these tactics. You have been a believer for a very long time and still can not discuss scripture without accusing anyone who you disagree with of being of the devil. Start there John because your issues start with you

“Painters Find Beauty in Life ”

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#476557 Jan 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Today I listened to Schubert's unfinished (8th) symphony. Beautiful.
I was unaware that a bomb was dropped on Debussy's piano! World War I? German bomb? Paris?
Bonsoir mon ami, in regards to Schubert it is unfortunate that he did not get the recognition he deserved in his lifetime, his style of music however was relatively new. It was World War I and yes it was in Paris. My avatar is a picture of my Grand piano it is a replica of Debussy's.
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#476558 Jan 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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God gave you life and will take it away.
He gave you children and may take them away.
etc.
God gives and takes. Your arguement is incomplete and faulty.
Do you always Twist peoples words and, GODS? You are not a
trustworthy person at all.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#476559 Jan 13, 2013
Senecus wrote:
Revelation written before 70 A.D. Say it aint so! You'll be branded a heretic!(er, like me~) I jest , but slightly because, I came to the same conclusion a while ago now.
Not only is the destruction not mentioned , but John, in Rev. 11:1,2; is told to measure the temple of God... as if it's still standing. How could this be if it's a post 70 A.D. writing ?
First, after John received the dictation of our anointed Savior, to give to the seven churches, wasn't all after that a record of the vision given him? Secondly, how could John measure the temple if he wrote the book we call "Revelation" while imprisoned on Patmos? Thirdly, considering the language used in just the eleventh chapter alone, couldn't we, easily, conclude that what's written is symbolic? I've just come to the conclusion that all that's recorded after the letters to the churches are visions and should be interpreted as such.

Considering, again, that John was imprisoned on Patmos, it's also possible that John wasn't aware of the temple's destruction. Also, considering that it was prophesied, the destruction of the temple, it's possible that John knew of it's destruction, but didn't write about it. And considering the purpose of the book we call "Revelation," it's highly possible that the destruction of the earthly temple found no place in John's records.

What would be the significance of measuring, literally, "them that worship therein" with a "reed like unto a rod?"

And by the way, how art thou, my Brother?

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#476560 Jan 13, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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Yes it is so simple, so simple that it confounds the intelligent and His grace is greater than all of our worries.
Always good to see you Le le.
I admire your heart and your knowledge in Christ.

I admire your mind and the gift of knowledge you have..
You are an asset to the Kingdom of God.
A true teacher.

And here you say how simple this free gift of Love is..
How can that possibly be??

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#476561 Jan 13, 2013
And I would add John that while I certainly don't condone it and have spoken out against it many times, when it is you and those you are siding with dragging the conversations into the gutter I can't say I am surprised that is where they stay.

Of course someone's natural reaction to someone attacking them and saying they are of the devil (when that same person refuses to so much as interpret scripture) might be to respond if anybody is of the devil it is you

And like I have maintained throughout, I am against it when anybody does it, and no I am not going play police officer to every post but will certainly address it when it is being said to me as is only natural, I feel there is more responsibility towards the person that dragged the conversation into the gutter in the first place

Now no matter how many times someone tells me I am of the devil I have never said it back. I have a lot of faults but that line I won't cross. But you really don't see more culpability towards the people who INITIATE the "you are of the devil" well during any scriptural differences ? Of course you don't because you are the one that does it.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#476562 Jan 13, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Bonsoir mon ami, in regards to Schubert it is unfortunate that he did not get the recognition he deserved in his lifetime, his style of music however was relatively new. It was World War I and yes it was in Paris. My avatar is a picture of my Grand piano it is a replica of Debussy's.
Very nice, madame.

Sometime, we should talk a little about Liszt, his relationship with Chopin, how Chopin helped Liszt. I have a wonderful story about it, but insufficient energy at this time of day to tell it well. I will remind myself at another time. Both Chopin and Liszt are great favorites of mine, I think I have mentioned it.

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#476563 Jan 13, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Le_le ...
Hey hu..
Whatcha up to..
buddy??

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#476564 Jan 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
"No matter where you come from it is to James the Just that you shall go" - Thomas
I agree, that James was a pillar of the Church, even being mentioned first by Paul, recorded at Galatians 2:9. But, in this, I don't believe that any had prominence over the next. I believe that all the apostles were made bishops. Now, I must ask you...

Do you also believe that heaven and earth were created specifically for James? I ask, because according to what's written, "For by [our anointed Savior] all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by [our anointed Savior] and for [our anointed Savior].

And now, we see why certain documents weren't accepted.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476565 Jan 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Today I listened to Schubert's unfinished (8th) symphony. Beautiful.
I was unaware that a bomb was dropped on Debussy's piano! World War I? German bomb? Paris?
it was not german bomb
only bottle of shampoo from one french drank politician,
and he blame publicaly for german atrocities against artist of france

france people are horible simple,dirty and uninteligent,dumb

only 1/ Paris Population on city Paris suburbs are rich and more smart from all this nation of hilly billies,and dirty like greek goats shepherds on Iraq border

so don't be so excited with your 'great skills" becaause mostly lawers are simple liers for money-that way you are not able to believe God and make your sins of greed throw away abd be pur and clean in spirit and body 2 Cor 7;1

WORLDWIDE OPINION IS AABOUT LAWYERS THAT THEY ARE NUMBER 2ND CRIMINALS DRAWING GREEDY MONEY FROM COURTS AND BRAKE BASIC JUSTICE

Only please?
do.nt fell offended,I don't know you to accuse you of something which you maaybe never commited,

have great evening and be always happy,
I like the truth and some few general jokes,

“Painters Find Beauty in Life ”

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#476566 Jan 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Very nice, madame.
Sometime, we should talk a little about Liszt, his relationship with Chopin, how Chopin helped Liszt. I have a wonderful story about it, but insufficient energy at this time of day to tell it well. I will remind myself at another time. Both Chopin and Liszt are great favorites of mine, I think I have mentioned it.
Bonsoir mon ami, yes I would like that very much. Whenever you are ready. I hope your energy levels peak to normal :)

Since: Mar 09

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#476567 Jan 13, 2013
Edit 2: Red Apples

And do you know someone else I didn't call out direct for doing it? YOU. I didn't say a word to John. I sat back as you went to the well that you do so often that drives me nuts but I held my tongue. I watched as you sided with people and attacked Quin and Lawest and CS and BLL and I didn't say a word to you. I watched as you posted things I didn't believe over and over again and didn't say a word to you. And when you started to reply to my posts to others with scriptures I answered respectfully. And when you questioned prior about people on the other side saying some of the same things I said I thought that was just as wrong and reminded you I said that a few times already. I even admitted my own culpability in some of the negative generalizing

So I went out of my way not to make make it personal between us and not even engage you. You came looking for this fight with me John. You were the one who decided to go negative about me. And here we are.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476568 Jan 13, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>I agree, that James was a pillar of the Church, even being mentioned first by Paul, recorded at Galatians 2:9. But, in this, I don't believe that any had prominence over the next. I believe that all the apostles were made bishops. Now, I must ask you...
Do you also believe that heaven and earth were created specifically for James? I ask, because according to what's written, "For by [our anointed Savior] all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by [our anointed Savior] and for [our anointed Savior].
And now, we see why certain documents weren't accepted.
sir
name James never existed or exist till today among semitic and far east 1st names
King James was gay King,and pervert,
his name is on Bible,but he never translate Bible,only his scholars translated this

james is english pervert name of old english

far east,semities and Europa never call James
only
Jacub,Jacob,Jacobo,Jackobus ect

and at Bible letters are from apostle Jacob or Jacobus,not from James
understood you self made believer?and not so good educated as biblical scholar

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#476569 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I can't imagine he would. I certainly think he would have mentioned it if that were the case although why not teach what would apply after the sacrifice in the first place if that changed us needing to follow what he had been currently teaching?
I think Jesus fully expected His teachings to be followed after the sacrifice and said as much to his disciples in Matthew 28
(T) Peace
Hi Skom..
Happy New Year!
:)

Just wondering..

-do you believe we find Christ.. or does He find us??
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476570 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
And I would add John that while I certainly don't condone it and have spoken out against it many times, when it is you and those you are siding with dragging the conversations into the gutter I can't say I am surprised that is where they stay.
Of course someone's natural reaction to someone attacking them and saying they are of the devil (when that same person refuses to so much as interpret scripture) might be to respond if anybody is of the devil it is you
And like I have maintained throughout, I am against it when anybody does it, and no I am not going play police officer to every post but will certainly address it when it is being said to me as is only natural, I feel there is more responsibility towards the person that dragged the conversation into the gutter in the first place
Now no matter how many times someone tells me I am of the devil I have never said it back. I have a lot of faults but that line I won't cross. But you really don't see more culpability towards the people who INITIATE the "you are of the devil" well during any scriptural differences ? Of course you don't because you are the one that does it.
I wonder of people like you remarks and complains about someone who say"you are from devil"or I am from devil"etc....

skom those people who say like this?
they are able to remove you from Family of God if God adopted you to His heavenly family?

they are able to destroy your spiritual faith and Gods blessings?
they are able to underestimate your spiritual skills calling like this?

skom?
just don'behave like child and cry

just those who despise others or you spew at them,shake dust from you shoes and leave them alone

Gods believers have nothing to do with table of devil full of viomits consumed by devil children 24 hours a day

Just be cool Skom'and grow daily like each of us loving Lord above all others things
God bless you Skom
good night

Since: Mar 09

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#476573 Jan 13, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Hi Skom..
Happy New Year!
:)
Just wondering..
-do you believe we find Christ.. or does He find us??
Hey LeLe!

Happy New Year to you to:)

I believe when Christ died on the Cross he drew all men to him (and thru Him to the Father)

John 12:32
"But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself."

And when man feels that pull then he in return seeks out God

Luke 11:9
“But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”

Matthew 6:33
“Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:”

Acts 17:27
so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;

Matthew 7:7-8
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened."

(T) Peace
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476574 Jan 13, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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I admire your heart and your knowledge in Christ.
I admire your mind and the gift of knowledge you have..
You are an asset to the Kingdom of God.
A true teacher.
And here you say how simple this free gift of Love is..
How can that possibly be??
instead admire human beings
please?
start leav your body filth and throw to the dumpster,
and start admire only GOD,HIS BEGOTTEN SON JESUS CHRIST WHO ONLY HE IS GREAT TEACHER AND DOOR TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.JOHN 14;6

I ASSURE YOU DREW IS OK, BUT HE IS NOT GREAT TEACHER OR ASSET TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

none of the human saved by God is any asset to Eternal Kingdom of God

you sound like poor arecked creature full of earthly filthy sins,mhaving not idea what is to be save and work of faith,or Kingom of God

boom,
I am waiting for your upseting false anyway accusations

have good night and sweet dreams,if it is possible for you to have sweet dreams

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#476575 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
How the exchanges go don't surprise me
Tell someone else their beliefs are of the devil
Refuse to interpret scripture
Then claim to be the victim
look for people to side with who like doing the same
This has been going on since i got here. And Lord knows there are beliefs others have that people could go after easily but the whole premise of that is just stupid. I don't care if someone believes differently than me. Although I like to know why and often I learn things from debates. But I done dealing with 'adults' who are not capable of adult exchanges.
If people are so insecure or egotistical that someone believing differently causes them to resort to silly accusations and feigning ignorance to ignore answering scripture then knowing Topix they will not have a hard time finding people who will love that sort of thing and will sit around and tell each other they are going to hell or are of the devil. After 3 years I thought perhaps we might have been past it but so long as some people refuse to change then things will stay the same
I can't imagine when the Bible was written and it said scripture was meant for correction, teachings, and training in righteousness that the intent was to sit around and accuse other believers of being of the devil. Just childish nonsense.
As of now, I'm really only interested in seeing how the interpretation of the verses we quote remain harmonious with the interpretation of the verses they quote. And if our interpretations are erroneous, then how? If our interpretations are erroneous, then why compromise their meaning? How does the term "if" not indicate a stipulation?

These are just some of the questions I'm more concerned about.

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