“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#476303 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
BROTHER LEE....I would also add that when Christ says in Matthew 28:20 to make sure they obey all he has commanded that this took place AFTER he rose from the dead. In fact Matthew 28-1-10 specifically addresses Mary Magdelene finding the empty tomb and what Yeshua said to her and then the passage continues with Him telling his diciples to go out and baptize all nations in His name and to make sure they obey all he has commanded of them. So to me this clearly illustrates that His teachings stood after the Sacrifice and applied to everyone. Thus faith is the combination of trust, belief, and obedience if we were to define the diff between 'faith' and 'belief' imo.(T) PEACE
Good point. Why would Jesus teach anythign if it was going to be meaningless in a year.

Since: Oct 12

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#476304 Jan 13, 2013
Backsliders way back to God.

To regain God's favor what must the backslider do.

Only acknowledge thine iniquity,that hou hast transgressed against the Lord thy God and hast scattered thy ways to the stranger under every green tree and ye have not obeyed My voice saith the Lord. Jeremiah 3:13

On what conditon does God promise mercy to sinners.

Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts and let him return unto the Lord and He will have mercy upon him and to our God,for He will abundantly pardon. Isaiah 55:7

Why must the wicked forsake their thoughts and ways.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways saith the Lord. Isaiah 55:8

What is especially necessary to prevent backsliding.

Watch ye and pray lest ye enter into temptation.The spirit truly ready but the flesh is weak.Mark 14:38

What are believers exhorted to do.

Examine yourselves whether ye be in the faith prove your own selves.Know ye not your own selves how that Jesus Christ is in you except ye be reprobates.2 Corinthians 13:5

If one has God's law in the heart what will not occur.

The law of his God is in his heart;none of his steps shall slide. Psalms 37:31

When the backslider repents what does God do.

Take with you words and turn to the Lord;say unto Him Take away all iniquity and receive us graciously so will we render the calves of our lips I will heal their backsliding I will love them freely;for Mine anger is turned away from him.
Hosea 14:2-4

Continued on next post.

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#476305 Jan 13, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good argument but notice who is speaking..Timothy, learned from Paul and we all should know by now that Paul taught The Grace Message ONLY..So did Timothy. So, IF we dapart from the Gospel Of Gods GRACE...The warning is NOT to depart from Grace and back into Leagalism..Old Law ect..ect.. Here is the WHOLE scripture..The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the "faith" and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons..WHAT FAITH??? Justification By Faith i.e...GRACE
Actually, Paul did speak of works in Eph 2:10...also, talked about other things that we shouldn't be doing, like fornication, homosexuality and such. So he spoke on more other than Grace... it wasn't just Grace only. He spoke on how we should live.

Grace isn't the problem... it's the counterfeit grace message that is the problem, Once Saved Always Saved.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476306 Jan 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Satan believes in Jesus and does evil so do many human believers. There is no differemce. Belief alone is worthless.
2. Where does the Bible say that "Satan is beyond redemption" ?
Note that in the OT humans were cast out of Paradise, not Satan.
try to understand Jesus words and His death,after His resurection satan with his rulers was thrown away from Heaven-Thorne of God,

being out of throne of God is being not to saved and have redemption covered by blood of Jesus

also you post nonsesne,
how universal adversary and blasphemers from the beginning of this world could get redemption by sheeded blood of Jesus ,satan enemy also.Jude 9

try to understand deep senses of original copies of NT langauge koine

have good day old pal

Since: Sep 12

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#476307 Jan 13, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Grace and Faith had also existed before the Law as the NT points out as it uses Noah and Abraham as examples, even at some points through the law as there are many examples of that (like Jesus when He walked on this earth)... the Grace that came through Jesus is the fact that He came down, fulfilled the Law and while we were yet in our sin, Christ died... and we know how the rest of the situtation goes... rose again, etc. But the fact remains is that Grace isn't the issue... it's the Once Saved Always Saved demonic teaching that is the issue. OSAS is a counterfeit message of Grace.
We dont know that for sure Quin and OSAS shouldnt even be an issue with Gods children. Christ died..Yes, but you are leaving out 2 other important events that so many preachers leave out..His burial and resurecction..Read up on what Jesus accomplished with those 2 events that seems to go unacknowledged today. Justification...Sanctification ...redemption...not in that order but dont leave out those 2 events or you are missing something wonderful. God Bless...Christ done MORE than just die....Read more on the resurrection..I believe you will be amazed at how many people overlook that

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#476308 Jan 13, 2013
Welp, on that note... going to have to head to work. Hope everyone has a great day. Drew, looking forward to your reply to my question.

Everyone have a good day...

:)

Since: Sep 12

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#476309 Jan 13, 2013
I have a meeting at church at 2:00.. Have a blessed day
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476310 Jan 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. Why would Jesus teach anythign if it was going to be meaningless in a year.
meaningless for earthly scums,and pretenders to be followers of Jesus,
Jesus is not teacher of this satan kingdom and satan followers seating by the table of demons,
they believe in Jesus,but trembling as lost seed of satan(chatta im)
they live in own lies,believing that are saved all of them and alwasy saved being with pol pot,hitler,stalin,and us goverment thiefs in the heane?
he he heeee

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#476311 Jan 13, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
BLL... don't be downcast. RA had come from the Way International cult so it's not totally his fault. This cult believed in a strict practice called "mark, purge and avoid..." (hence the ignore advice)... so that's what this particular cult does and is infamous for. I don't believe he is in that particular cult any longer, I believe some views have changed but there are still some traces of loyalty and affinity to it. Here is some info on the matter.
http://www.pfo.org/poisonng.html
Wow! Scary.

Well, I hope we've read the other post I composed, where I quoted two verses with his comment, to show the difference between his advice and that which the bible advises.

Since: Oct 12

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#476312 Jan 13, 2013
Will there be special danger of backsliding in the last days.

And because iniquity shall abound the love of many shall wax cold.Matthew 24:12

What are some of the evils against which we are specially warned at this time.

And take heed to yourselves lest an any time your hearts be overcharged with suffering and druneness and cares of this life and sot that day come upon you unawares.Luke 21:34

In view of the perils surrounding us what are we told to do.

Watch ye therefore and pray always that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all theses things that shall come to past and to stand before the Son of Man. Luke 21:36
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476313 Jan 13, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>What part of get out of here and don't come back do you not understand old rabbit-brained boy??
your cow manure and urines mixed with dry sahara camel s.... made from your f....brain-mish mash broun s....0.5 oz braun stinking brain seating inside of skull
also your brain is a lot smaller from old rabbit brain(my) even cockraoach have more brain then you
Bo Do Kackodoo bip bip
he he heeee you are realy genuis internet idiot
he he heee

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#476314 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
I think I will continue to believe Jesus is God and that his teachings still apply today....
I don't believe Jesus is God but I do believe His teachings apply today. Jesus may be God, I am neither, but if it were important to believe that then Jesus would have made itperfectly very clear that He was God and that believing He was God was mandatory so I don't think it matters. Same with his parentage and resurrection.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476315 Jan 13, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! Scary.
Well, I hope we've read the other post I composed, where I quoted two verses with his comment, to show the difference between his advice and that which the bible advises.
rather your bamblings and deciving others is more SCARE from doctrines of this freacking sect way international

look if Bible is close to you open?
I doubt this,because your bambling is not based according to 2 tim 3;16

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#476316 Jan 13, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
<quoted text>... Because your sidekick g_o_d (who you take sides with all of the time)...
ROFLMAO

We just don't personally attack each other when we disagree.

You reap what you sow, John.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476317 Jan 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe Jesus is God but I do believe His teachings apply today. Jesus may be God, I am neither, but if it were important to believe that then Jesus would have made itperfectly very clear that He was God and that believing He was God was mandatory so I don't think it matters. Same with his parentage and resurrection.
what you believe or not
It doesn't change fact that
Jesus is Son of God first beggoten before all Creation,and Godhead of His spiritual universal church residing only in Heaven as ONE

YOU ARE DAMNED BY YOUR OWN BELIEFS, AND PLEASE.DON'T BLAME ANYONE FOR THIS,

you did like Judash,
gave up unjust mamon and lost your life,hanging yourselves of the tree planted by devil,(philosophies of this fake world)
and all undigested food feces( spiritual food)instead wait and diagest,you thrown this stinking food from your stinking belly to the ditch before your hanging dead body-just like Judash

be careful my dear old pal,end is ugly and horible

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#476318 Jan 13, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus Himself said we cant mix the "new" with the "old"...Law(old) and Grace (new)..He tells us this with these parables..
"And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a NEW garment upon an OLD; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
And no man putteth NEW wine into OLD winskin..else they ferment and he LOSES BOTH.—Luke 5:36-39, KJV
Maybe it wasn't a parable at all, just a statement of fact. He was an amazing vintner I hear.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#476319 Jan 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
ROFLMAO
We just don't personally attack each other when we disagree.
You reap what you sow, John.
John sow honestly and he reap now proper fruits of salvation,
he realized and open eyes that sowing with spiritual criminals is just sicide and damnation
and RA depart from all scums and haters cyber zombies atacking without of end humble believers for whom only Jesus died and decide for them,
not those scums decide for those who believe in Iesus as their reedemer
John reap precious fruits,
and never achived something positive for sowing together with scums,devil children,liars, and wicked story makers
so get real,and blame yourselves for your own worldy stupidity and reaping big balls of dry camel s...

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#476320 Jan 13, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
....“and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from ALL sin.” 1 John 1:7c
....
Where does that say "forever".

Do you take a bath and then never take another one ?

Anyway, "John" is a proven blasphemer.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#476321 Jan 13, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation? A Biblical Analysis
Once a Christian is saved, can they lose their salvation? What if a believer falls away from the faith, can they be restored again to God?...
Were you saved before, during or after you were in the Way Int.?
simplyput

Aurora, CO

#476322 Jan 13, 2013
If you go to Church, and you see someone walk up to the minister to be SAVED,and, later was babtized, can you really say, this person is now saved and is now a Christian?(by your works, you shall know him)

No, you can't. The One way we as humans can tell is by that person's works, how he continues to live, and shows signs of being a true Christian.

God knows our HEART and our intentions of the Heart, HE alone, knows if that person was sincere in his REPENTENCE or if it was just for SHOW.

If there was more that we had to do to keep our Salvation, God would have told us , as Red Apples said, John 3:16 BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ and you WILL HAVE, everlasting life.

God would not GIVE us something, then take it away.

That is what SATAN does, He lies to us and is a PRETENDER, a FAKE.

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