Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#476238 Jan 13, 2013
I've listened to that version of 'Jesus paid it all',I know,hundreds of times over the years.

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#476239 Jan 13, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>Well....Go into a Freezer there in Aussie Land....And imagine it being even colder...LOL...So cold that cars wont "crank" and the hairs in your nose freeze so it tickles as you breathe in and out.....And when you step on the snow it "sqeeks"

LOL....:-)
Sounds good to me :)
Brother REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#476240 Jan 13, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm done....just reading back
Have a great day D.R.......
:-)
You know I didn't actually go to medical school,RIGHT??:) But I AM a REAL 'Doctor'. I'm a 'doctor' for the Lord Jesus Christ. And I'm going to use the internet to tell as many people about Him as I can before I leave this world,because I know when my 'work' is done here,I'll never be able to come back and tell anyone else about what the Saviour did for ME,YOU,and the entire human race at the Holy Cross of Calvary. Ya' know what I mean?? Have a good day,Epi. Bye!

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#476241 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Aaaaand here we go again. Grace Walker claiming someone cant understand the grace gospel unless God open their eyes! And this from one of the most scriprtually ignorant people I have ever run across that literally just ignored dozens upon dozens of verses that contradict her. If you dont know the Bible well enought o debate it and if you arent even capable of giving so much as an interpretation then maybe Grace you ought to stop telling other people that it is you that has the truth from God while anyone who believes different is blind. And if anyone wants to pretend it isnt these kind of statements made day after day that is the problem then they need a good long stare in the mirror because regardless of what you believe..this is what the problem is
Another spot on post Skom, I too could respect her argument a little better IF she would at least attempt to address many of the scriptures aimed at her, but she disavows those scriptures that doesn't fit into her self made doctrine and have made many off key remarks that do not jive with the written Word.

Peace.
Brother REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#476243 Jan 13, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Here it is,Mrs,Grace,right at the very end of the podcast: http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/thru-the-b...
You know,I never met the man,I never talked to him on the phone,but there was just something about him on the radio that caused me to gravitate towards his radio broadcasts. I've always liked going to small churches in little towns out in the country,and listening to J.Vernon McGee on the radio always gave me that feeling like I was in the pews at some little small church out in the country. I don't want to say he had that 'ol country boy' sound about him,because I'm not sure what it was. All I know is that I really enjoyed listening to him,and to this day,I STILL listen to him on the radio.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#476244 Jan 13, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>It makes sense people that tell others their beliefs are of the devil and call other people blind while refusing to interpret scripture would stick together. She actually started saying that when you did John. Dont you think its about time to go a different route? Your beliefs couldnt be more different than everybody in here when it comes to Jesus yet you still are first in line to tell people their beliefs are of the devil. And what people see as a pattern is your hypocritical defense of anyone who sides with your beliefs because you were sure in true form when you were being told your beliefs were of the devil. Get honest with yourself John and for God's sake I dont know how old you are but grow up when it comes to talking about scripture. She followed your lead on the whole "of the devil" nonsense. You want to know where the division starts? Look in the mirror. Trust me, others can see that
Skom..........I hope that you and others don't believe that I am responding to your posts because I am seeking an ally or trying to escalate a disagreement but I say this from honest conviction that I truly believe you to be the most honest person posting here on this thread, you don't play favorites and may God richly Bless you for that.

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#476247 Jan 13, 2013
Sunday January 13
Set Boundaries (2)
Ex 20:4-6, Deut 7:17-8:2, Is 40:18-31, Col 3:5-10
'...Its parts should have equal concern for each other.' 1 Corinthians 12:25

When you buy a house, you need clearly marked boundary lines to let you know what's yours and what's not. Good boundaries make good neighbours. The Bible says,'Seldom set foot in your neighbour's house--too much of you, and you will be hated.'(Proverbs 25:17) So, how close is too close? Let's look at three kinds of boundaries we establish between ourselves and others. Rigid boundaries. These are designed to keep others at arms' length and protect our private, self-absorbed world. Without saying a word, your attitude says:'Keep out, trespassers will be prosecuted!' Why do we create such boundaries? Fear! We fear being known, controlled, hurt, or feeling inadequate and inferior. And our rigidity prevents intimacy. Our unwillingness to be vulnerable or to compromise leaves us defensive, isolated and lonely. Closeness and intimacy are things we long for, yet fear and avoid. We think,'You can't hurt me if I keep you at a safe distance.' But it doesn't work. God designed us to share life's victories and defeats, not to live in isolation. We are to'...have equal concern for each other. If one part [person] suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honoured, every part rejoices with it.'(1 Corinthians 12:25-26) Rigid boundaries rob you of life-enriching relationships.'So what's the answer?' you ask. Reach out! Your were created to give to others, and to receive what they have to give back to you. In giving you are fulfilled, and in receiving you are made complete. Anything less is just existing.
The Word for Today
**********
Easier said than done, for me anyway. I went from having no boundaries and getting hurt a lot. To having rigid boundaries and hurting myself.
Something for me to think about.
Love, peace and happiness to everyone <3

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#476248 Jan 13, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Whew ~ I can't comprehend below zero :)
Hummm,Below zero and huge flakes of snow falling from the sky.
God lays that snow all over the earth much like a king size blanket on earths bed.It hangs itself to everything tops of houses,trees,scrubs,fenses.Cri tter prints in the snow show small foot prints of time and place where they scampered to hide away.
Then it freezes like a ice cube as if suppended in time.God bless.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#476249 Jan 13, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Grace;
Left you a note over on other thread earlier.know your going to laugh but I take my shoes off and walk bare footed in the snow always feels so wonderful.Sometimes just a small handful to tuck down inside honey's shirt to remind him I love him.lol.Some real pretty stuff fallen here tonight and air is crisp,sharp and smells clean.Inside have a nice warm fire built and cup of spiced up tea and some bananna nut cake to nibble on.Always count thoses simple blessings.God bless.
Sounds wonderful LW.
I will go on over to the other thread and read your note. Enjoy the snow. God Bless You

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#476250 Jan 13, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
That sounds so beautiful I want to cry, it's so hot here and there's never any snow and I'm turning into a puddle....
<3
I live up high in the moutains here,it is little over six thousand feet above sea level.Today the high will be in the 20's.My dad used to take me outside when it would snow and take off my shoes and let me walk in the snow barefooted.That how it started as was a small tike of about three at the time and I been doin it every since.The old timers here beleived if you walked in the snow barefooted you stay well all winter.Might be something to that and may not only God knows.But can tell you I never get sick for some reaon.Here is another one that know for sure always happens.When you go outside at night and look at the moon and a large ring is around it then you shall know a storm is in the makings.

When the snow falls and clings to everything and it is cold large icecyles cling to the eves of the roof of the house.The mail box on the post standing in the yard has a small hump of snow too.I often think of it as God come to visit and make his present known.
Almost as if to say never forget me I am your creator.God bless.

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#476251 Jan 13, 2013
Lame ...

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#476252 Jan 13, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>I live up high in the moutains here,it is little over six thousand feet above sea level.Today the high will be in the 20's.My dad used to take me outside when it would snow and take off my shoes and let me walk in the snow barefooted.That how it started as was a small tike of about three at the time and I been doin it every since.The old timers here beleived if you walked in the snow barefooted you stay well all winter.Might be something to that and may not only God knows.But can tell you I never get sick for some reaon.Here is another one that know for sure always happens.When you go outside at night and look at the moon and a large ring is around it then you shall know a storm is in the makings.

When the snow falls and clings to everything and it is cold large icecyles cling to the eves of the roof of the house.The mail box on the post standing in the yard has a small hump of snow too.I often think of it as God come to visit and make his present known.
Almost as if to say never forget me I am your creator.God bless.
Aaaah.... Nice dreams for me tonight...that is so beautiful, thank you :) God Bless you too <3

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#476253 Jan 13, 2013
Good Morning Folks... might as well.

:O)

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#476254 Jan 13, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaaah.... Nice dreams for me tonight...that is so beautiful, thank you :) God Bless you too <3
I been just sharing with you what my eyes,heart feel along with some my thoughts.God bless.

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#476256 Jan 13, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>And now, we have certain individuals suggesting that Grace Walker just ignore us, as she's not obligated to answer to any of us. And as true as this is, I would think she'd be more than willing to share any and everything with us, as such boldness would surely give glory to "God!" But, most likely, she'll listen to him.
I think I'll take a stroll through the "Dave and Gary Show" for a little while, to see if at any time, certain contributors expected an answer from any one of Harold Camping's disciples.
BLL... don't be downcast. RA had come from the Way International cult so it's not totally his fault. This cult believed in a strict practice called "mark, purge and avoid..." (hence the ignore advice)... so that's what this particular cult does and is infamous for. I don't believe he is in that particular cult any longer, I believe some views have changed but there are still some traces of loyalty and affinity to it. Here is some info on the matter.

http://www.pfo.org/poisonng.htm

“Saved. ”

Since: Aug 12

Like Ice On planet Mercury

#476257 Jan 13, 2013
Regarding the study on Revelation 2 regarding the church at Ephesus is that one could go too far with "works" and forget the "first works". The very first of the first works is to love God WITH ALL YOUR HEART.... then it goes on to say with all your soul, then mind and the last of it is "with all your strength" Mark 12:30. It seems like they were focusing too much on the last part (the strength) when they should of been focused on the first parts... heart and soul and then the rest of it.

Jesus: "For where your treasure is, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO." Mt 6:21

So rather than treasuring God in their hearts, they were treasuring God with their deeds.

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And the pendulum could swing to the other extreme also when it comes to just a message of Grace... as such was the case with the Nicolatians. They felt like they were already saved so they could do whatever they liked. So that is what they did. Now though Jesus rebuked the church at Ephesus for leaving their first love... He gave them credit for hating "the deeds" of the Nicolatians. Look at what Jesus said:

Jesus (to Ephesus): "But you have this in your favor - You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Though the term "antinomianism" was coined much later, in deed, this is what they believed in. It was just a message of salvation through grace and faith alone. A lot of the antinomianists (which I was one myself) quote Ephesians 2:8,9 often but they forsake to go further into verses 10 and 11 of the same chapter where Paul refers to "good works'. And James complete the circle also by saying that Faith without works is dead. Just like the body without the spirit is dead. They go hand in hand.

So again, works only is one extreme and is wrong... but it seems to be more preferable than the other extreme message of Grace only. There has to be a balance of both.

Okay, done with Ephesus... good lessons for me. Moving on to Smyrna. Jesus is Lord.

:)

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#476259 Jan 13, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
<quoted text>
I really love your posts Grace, a few others too, I try not to say much here or come in here much because I don't want to fight with Christians, as it is, if anyone says something here they get attacked, which is sad considering this is reputed to be one of the best Christian threads on topix...I mean no offence to anyone but I don't know what you and BLL are arguing about when most of your beliefs look pretty similar to me, just different in wording, unless I'm missing something. I haven't been a Christian for long compared to others here but most of your posts come across as very kind and loving of Christ and others, I just wanted to tell you that <3
Thanks Juicylu..That was very sweet. I have said this so many times already but will say it again, The thing about witnessing on a forum is this: The reader cannot hear how the writer is delivering their message. They read it and add their own emotions. Example..I know that Your post above was written with sincerity. Now, imagine you were LOOKING for a smart aleck comment and go back and read your post with that mentality..Notice the difference? Unless a person can HEAR the compassion or lack of it.The reader will add their own emotions to anything someone writes. We are all quilty of doing this from time to time; However when a certain poster has constant dislike for another, The only thing they will read from that certain poster is negativity. Thanks for posting this. I hope my response made some sense. LOL..Even when a person adds NOTHING but Gods written scripture, certain people still take that as an insult. They dont read it with love if they are looking for hate, arguments and a "I am right" attitude. Have a blessed day. You have a very kind heart

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#476260 Jan 13, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
Regarding the study on Revelation 2 regarding the church at Ephesus is that one could go too far with "works" and forget the "first works". The very first of the first works is to love God WITH ALL YOUR HEART.... then it goes on to say with all your soul, then mind and the last of it is "with all your strength" Mark 12:30. It seems like they were focusing too much on the last part (the strength) when they should of been focused on the first parts... heart and soul and then the rest of it.
Jesus: "For where your treasure is, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO." Mt 6:21
So rather than treasuring God in their hearts, they were treasuring God with their deeds.
----------
And the pendulum could swing to the other extreme also when it comes to just a message of Grace... as such was the case with the Nicolatians. They felt like they were already saved so they could do whatever they liked. So that is what they did. Now though Jesus rebuked the church at Ephesus for leaving their first love... He gave them credit for hating "the deeds" of the Nicolatians. Look at what Jesus said:
Jesus (to Ephesus): "But you have this in your favor - You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."
Though the term "antinomianism" was coined much later, in deed, this is what they believed in. It was just a message of salvation through grace and faith alone. A lot of the antinomianists (which I was one myself) quote Ephesians 2:8,9 often but they forsake to go further into verses 10 and 11 of the same chapter where Paul refers to "good works'. And James complete the circle also by saying that Faith without works is dead. Just like the body without the spirit is dead. They go hand in hand.
So again, works only is one extreme and is wrong... but it seems to be more preferable than the other extreme message of Grace only. There has to be a balance of both.
Okay, done with Ephesus... good lessons for me. Moving on to Smyrna. Jesus is Lord.
:)
Hi Quin.
Great post. I have a question though. Why is it that a person hears the Grace message and the first thing they say is....They think they can do anything they want and still be saved? Thats the wrong mentality to have when it comes to Grace. I know that there are people who do that, However, for the most part, They do not think that way. A person who believes in The Grace Gospel understands that ALL their sins are forgiven and from that, they tend to stay away from willful sin out of adoration and respect. Truth be told, People who disagree with Justification by Faith sin just as much as those under grace..There is no difference there and no difference in sin, weather it be willful or not. Then we also have to understand the word SIN..The NOUN..SIN..not the verb or ACTION of sin such as lying, cheating, stealing.ect..ect.. All that is a RESULT of the noun SIN. In the book of Romans, The word "Sin" is used 49 times which the NOUN "HAMARTIA” is used 47 times and the verb or actions of sin is only used twice. Its the sin nature we struggle with.Understanding that will help a great deal. Have a blessed day Quin.

“The who whating how...”

Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#476261 Jan 13, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Juicylu..That was very sweet. I have said this so many times already but will say it again, The thing about witnessing on a forum is this: The reader cannot hear how the writer is delivering their message. They read it and add their own emotions. Example..I know that Your post above was written with sincerity. Now, imagine you were LOOKING for a smart aleck comment and go back and read your post with that mentality..Notice the difference? Unless a person can HEAR the compassion or lack of it.The reader will add their own emotions to anything someone writes. We are all quilty of doing this from time to time; However when a certain poster has constant dislike for another, The only thing they will read from that certain poster is negativity. Thanks for posting this. I hope my response made some sense. LOL..Even when a person adds NOTHING but Gods written scripture, certain people still take that as an insult. They dont read it with love if they are looking for hate, arguments and a "I am right" attitude. Have a blessed day. You have a very kind heart
When you put it that way it makes sense yeah, I guess I didn't really think of it, I've noticed some very offensive stuff on some other threads but I guess subtle insults are harder to spot. I think you have a kind heart too Grace, thank you <3

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#476262 Jan 13, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
I mean no offence to anyone but I don't know what you and BLL are arguing about when most of your beliefs look pretty similar to me, just different in wording, unless I'm missing something.
No offense taken, but...

First, Juicylu, I really don't appreciate when people refer to discussions I'm in as "arguments," as I try, to the best of my ability, to remain as respectful as humanly possible and not argumentative. I don't believe I'm being argumentative simply because I expect the same common courtesy that I extend to all else, addressing assertions and answering questions as expected, and not just ignoring them. And as far as Grace Walker's beliefs and mine go, I'm sure that a lot of them are similar. But, when it comes to the idea that believers can choose whether keeping the commandments is necessary or not, I have no choice but to expose the truth of the matter. The same goes with this "once saved, always saved" doctrine.

I'm sure you've noticed how that either, Skombolis (especially), Qu_innocence, LAWEST100, Counter_Strike, or myself (especially), would compose a post with scripture quotes, with or without commentary and/or interpretation, that shows either, that it's a must we keep the commandments, or how the term "if" is used to indicate a stipulation. The fact of the matter is, such beliefs, as Grace Walker's, could only be valid if all these other verses didn't exist. In this, such beliefs can only exist if the interpretation of the other verses are compromised. Such beliefs only exist because the (most likely, incorrect) interpretation of one verse is highly regarded while the others ignored, or wholly rejected altogether. Case in point...

As a warning to the converted Gentiles regarding the disbelief of Israel, Paul wrote, "Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Now, in your opinion, does it sound like salvation is guaranteed? They were told, "Be not highminded, but fear." What's to fear if salvation is guaranteed? If salvation was guaranteed with no chance of losing salvation, then why would Paul write, "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling"? What's there to work out? And why fear and trembling?

Truly, my posts might come off a bit argumentative. But, believe me, that's not my intention. As we've all come to agree with, at times, the tone of our posts are difficult to determine. But, if anything, pay close attention to our "argument." The same verses, among many others, have been quoted numerous times, but people refuse to address them, to show how either, we're in error, or how they remain harmonious with the verses that they use to attempt to prove their beliefs accurate. All I ask for is the same common courtesy. Why, just last night, I was accused of perverting scriptures when, in actuality, all I did was quote verses while not adding any commentary or interpretation to any of the verses I quoted. And sadly, this has become quite common, not only in this thread, but in almost all threads.

Thank you for your time and consideration, Juicylu.

Until next time...

Shalowm.

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