Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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Rider on the Storm wrote:

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I'm pretty sure he's talking about me. I'll answer eventually.

Excellent.

:)

Andrew (CS).

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Rider on the Storm wrote:

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So you believe their are more then one God? Interesting......
Do you believe, for salvation, you must believe Jesus died for your sins?

I don't believe in a god. Pagans worship gods. Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) is the Most High Almighty One, the Ancient of Ancients. I do believe in the salvation of humanity (that is those who choose). I believe in the ben of Av Yahweh who is Yashiah Ha-Mashiach (barack be He). Not Iesous/Iezeus/Jezeus/Jesus. There was no man born in teh Hebrew household from the tribe of Judah called Jesus, the word is even English. More so, there was no letter 'J' in existence so why do people fgo along with all these things. many people including pastors know the truth but are comfortable with a lie. they either say it is a habit or it is comfortable. So yes, Ha-Mashiach died for our sins and is risen and shall return for His people.

Why do you ask this? I am curious.
:)

Andrew (CS).

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Rider on the Storm wrote:

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So you believe their are more then one God? Interesting......
Do you believe, for salvation, you must believe Jesus died for your sins?

My apologies; that is Yashua Ha-Mashiach.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

[G_O_D]

Counter_Strike wrote:

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.... Yisra'el (Israel) fell into paganism several times and suffered the consequences. When israel left babylon, they left with a lot of strange beliefs including the pagan Babylonian calendar. When they were redeemed from Egypt, it was the same and again it cost them....

You might appreciate the Samaritan Torah. The Samaritans consider themselves the "True Israelites" and reject the Babylonian Torah as well as the "writings" and "prophets" as Judean/Babylonian "uninspired propaganda".

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G_O_D wrote:

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You might appreciate the Samaritan Torah. The Samaritans consider themselves the "True Israelites" and reject the Babylonian Torah as well as the "writings" and "prophets" as Judean/Babylonian "uninspired propaganda".

The Samaritan Torah? Never heard of it before you mentioned it. I know the Samaritals were Hebrew/Israel but many looked down upon them as lesser it seems. Do you have this book?

Shalom & Love,

Andrew (CS).

[Dr Shrink]

Counter_Strike wrote:

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I am very happy for your imput, thank you. Yes, Quo Vadis Domine was written under the authority and supervision of the RCC, but Quo Vadis is Latin and not necessarily church lingo which means, "whither dost thou goest? or where are you going" or where do you go?"
I know a lot of things, but I don't know everything. I speak of what I know but if I'm guessing I just stay out of it. If I have an opinion then I say so. I don't try to bully people nor do I expect everyone to understand or even respect what I say. I am here having discussions with people because I believe most want intelligent discussion. At the end of teh day, no one may change anything they originally believed but at least knowledge was shared.
We are not called to save anyone but called to obedience, because I cannot save anyone. Only one can save and that is Yashua Ha-Mashiach (barack be He), ben of Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) and our shar and malek.
Shalom Malekiym,
Andrew (CS).

thanks for your respond
I know that this word is taken from latin language-Because earlier RCC used on latin liturgy langauge, in spoken word and written word,
the best methode to deceive masses by not understandable latin langauge spoken to them,or written to them

Yashua Ha Massiah is hebrew word(similiar like RC misleadings of simple people and draw to yourselves and own doctrines)

I see all your post written in English,and terms about God and His Son written in hebrew?
WHAT PURPOSE IS DOING LIKE THIS?

are you looking for own glory?
or how wise you are?
or how big biblical authority you are?

you say we are born to obedience(so called tzadik im)
are you realy 100% born to be son of obedience(tzadik) is you mix simple message of God JEHOVA(english) and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST(english)

englsish written humble text or post, serve one purpose to express simple message without of small mark advertising own glories,own wisdom, and own superiority above others?

May GOD allow you to look at more deeper, and allow you to serve 100% as son born to obedience(tzadik)

Have good day,
anywaay your posts are excelent to read them and enjoy deep waters of biblical Gospel

[Dr Shrink]

Brother Lee Love wrote:

<quoted text>1) Again, you're declaring how wrong I am for using the term "shalowm," but including nothing else. All declaration, but no evidence, or even a verse, to prove your beliefs. As far as I'm concerned, your prohibition is nothing other than a personal tradition until you can provide one shred of evidence that proves I'm in error. As of now, I've shared with you two examples of men that used the term toward other men.
2) How many times have you accused me of thinking I know everything, including "God's" and our anointed Savior's minds?
3) The priesthood knew Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Koine, the law, the psalms, and the prophecies, and they still misunderstood it, or they would have believed our anointed Savior.
4) I use the term "shalowm" for numerous reasons.
4-1) It's the greatest expression as a greeting, or otherwise, expressing my overall intention during discussions.
4-2) I pray that all either, become blessed by the shalowm of our 'Elohiym, or remain in the shalowm of our 'Elohiym.
4-3) I'll not judge anyone without evidence as to their walk in life outside Topix. Therefore, I'll not predetermine who does, or does not, deserve such a salutation, or otherwise. Whether atheist or believer, I still desire that all come to know the shalowm of our 'Elohiym, or remain in it. I see all, in this thread particularly, as believers, or potential believers.
4-4) I said "peace" instead of "shalowm" because you're, obviously, offended by my use of the term. Therefore, I'll not use it toward you.
Until next time...
Holla.

in my foreign mind I don't know word Holla

but I am reading your posts, with a lot of common biblical senses,
and between time .I am little bit worry that by some word or not proper using words belonging only to God alone,

you can fail not knowing this at all

I don't discuss anything long , or supply any evidence,
I post only my biblical opinion,and exclude myself from any sectarian debates,teachings, or discussion treated like GAME among faken preachers or sectarian pastors

From my deep biblical belief
GODS WORD IS NOT GAME, OR CHESS,OR GAMBLE BOARD,TO PLAY WITH,AND TO WIN OR LOSE

GODS PLAN AND HIS CHOSEN REMANAT IS EXCLUDED FROM SUCH EARTHLY WICKED GAMES,GAMBLE,OR SPIRITUAL CHESS PLAYERS WITH SECOND PARTIES

let me tell you
your prayers doesn't have any positive impact to influence GODS GRACE AND SHALOM GIVEN ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST-NOT THROUGH YOU AND YOUR PRAYERS

I see from your posts level of your understanding other languages or deep senses of hebrew or koine language,

I see you as smart guy,but still not mature enough to know Gods Word not belonging to you-and you treat this Word like it is YOUR INFALIABLE WORD ABLING BY YOU OPEN EYES PEOPLE LIKE G_O_D

WHAT I POST,I POST NACKED TRUTH,AND DOESN'T CARE IF I HURT ANYONE OF NOT
FOR ME PURE GODS WORD BELONG ONLY TO GOD, and we serve as children of obedience,to humbly rebuke,little advise send to others, and be far away from spiritual title and position awareded by this satanic world theological satanic spirit

have blessed day BLL

[Dr Shrink]

Counter_Strike wrote:

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The Samaritan Torah? Never heard of it before you mentioned it. I know the Samaritals were Hebrew/Israel but many looked down upon them as lesser it seems. Do you have this book?
Shalom & Love,
Andrew (CS).

my vast library doesn't have any Samaritian Torah

maybe it was g_o_d some kind of imagination,
even Hammadi Library doesn't have this book

The Torah is Pentateuch called as Mosaic Law only written to I srael chosen nation during great journey to the promise land

God bless you CS

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Dr Shrink wrote:

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thanks for your respond
I know that this word is taken from latin language-Because earlier RCC used on latin liturgy langauge, in spoken word and written word,
the best methode to deceive masses by not understandable latin langauge spoken to them,or written to them
Yashua Ha Massiah is hebrew word(similiar like RC misleadings of simple people and draw to yourselves and own doctrines)
I see all your post written in English,and terms about God and His Son written in hebrew?
WHAT PURPOSE IS DOING LIKE THIS?
are you looking for own glory?
or how wise you are?
or how big biblical authority you are?
you say we are born to obedience(so called tzadik im)
are you realy 100% born to be son of obedience(tzadik) is you mix simple message of God JEHOVA(english) and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST(english)
englsish written humble text or post, serve one purpose to express simple message without of small mark advertising own glories,own wisdom, and own superiority above others?
May GOD allow you to look at more deeper, and allow you to serve 100% as son born to obedience(tzadik)
Have good day,
anywaay your posts are excelent to read them and enjoy deep waters of biblical Gospel

I am learning Hebrew, I am not fluent, not even close. hense, what I do when I communicate religiously speaking is to remove many of the pagan names and terms.

When did this become an attack on me? Sorry you feel that way but I won't change to suit you or anyone else save Yahweh (barack be He) tells me so. Therefore I will not be your zabach (sacrifice) so it makes you feel better.

You have been here for a long time mostly attacking people and all it rewards you with is hostility. It appears to excite you somehow, but that's none of my business. I have nothing further to explain if you can't be respectful. Try following some of the scriptures you quote.

Oh, and by the way, why not translate Daniel, and Ezekiel, and Nehemiah, and Samuel? These are not English names, yet you go through all this trouble to translate the name of the Most High and the Savior. Why bother translating them? This is why I wouldn't hold in depth discussions with you because you put down people as if you know a whole lot more and know better, but it seems you love that you have been deceived and adore clinging to a lie.

Have a nice day.

:)

Andrew (Counter_Strike).

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Dr Shrink wrote:

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my vast library doesn't have any Samaritian Torah
maybe it was g_o_d some kind of imagination,
even Hammadi Library doesn't have this book
The Torah is Pentateuch called as Mosaic Law only written to I srael chosen nation during great journey to the promise land
God bless you CS

?

So now Yisra'el is the chosen nation? I'm not sure I want to go down this road with you. I think the best person for you to ask about this is Duane himself. Because I don't know about it, then he should be the one to explain it.

Shalom.

CS.

[Ashelah]

Counter_Strike wrote:

<quoted text>I am learning Hebrew, I am not fluent, not even close. hense, what I do when I communicate religiously speaking is to remove many of the pagan names and terms.

When did this become an attack on me? Sorry you feel that way but I won't change to suit you or anyone else save Yahweh (barack be He) tells me so. Therefore I will not be your zabach (sacrifice) so it makes you feel better.

You have been here for a long time mostly attacking people and all it rewards you with is hostility. It appears to excite you somehow, but that's none of my business. I have nothing further to explain if you can't be respectful. Try following some of the scriptures you quote.

Oh, and by the way, why not translate Daniel, and Ezekiel, and Nehemiah, and Samuel? These are not English names, yet you go through all this trouble to translate the name of the Most High and the Savior. Why bother translating them? This is why I wouldn't hold in depth discussions with you because you put down people as if you know a whole lot more and know better, but it seems you love that you have been deceived and adore clinging to a lie.

Have a nice day.

:)

Andrew (Counter_Strike).

I'd love to learn Hebrew <3

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Dr Shrink wrote:

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in my foreign mind I don't know word Holla
but I am reading your posts, with a lot of common biblical senses,
and between time .I am little bit worry that by some word or not proper using words belonging only to God alone,
you can fail not knowing this at all
I don't discuss anything long , or supply any evidence,
I post only my biblical opinion,and exclude myself from any sectarian debates,teachings, or discussion treated like GAME among faken preachers or sectarian pastors
From my deep biblical belief
GODS WORD IS NOT GAME, OR CHESS,OR GAMBLE BOARD,TO PLAY WITH,AND TO WIN OR LOSE
GODS PLAN AND HIS CHOSEN REMANAT IS EXCLUDED FROM SUCH EARTHLY WICKED GAMES,GAMBLE,OR SPIRITUAL CHESS PLAYERS WITH SECOND PARTIES
let me tell you
your prayers doesn't have any positive impact to influence GODS GRACE AND SHALOM GIVEN ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST-NOT THROUGH YOU AND YOUR PRAYERS
I see from your posts level of your understanding other languages or deep senses of hebrew or koine language,
I see you as smart guy,but still not mature enough to know Gods Word not belonging to you-and you treat this Word like it is YOUR INFALIABLE WORD ABLING BY YOU OPEN EYES PEOPLE LIKE G_O_D
WHAT I POST,I POST NACKED TRUTH,AND DOESN'T CARE IF I HURT ANYONE OF NOT
FOR ME PURE GODS WORD BELONG ONLY TO GOD, and we serve as children of obedience,to humbly rebuke,little advise send to others, and be far away from spiritual title and position awareded by this satanic world theological satanic spirit
have blessed day BLL

Fisrt of all, which god are you talking about. As far as I'm concerned and with all due respect, you need to humble yourself.

That's all I have to say about that.

Shalom,

ANdrew (CS).

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Juicylu wrote:

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I'd love to learn Hebrew <3

Indeed. It isn't a hard language to learn it seems Ms. Luciana. There are no vowels in it so it's a consonantal language, but the words or letters put together make vowel sounds.

I hope you're having an excellent day.

Andrew (CS).

[Brother Lee Love]

Dr Shrink wrote:

in my foreign mind I don't know word Holla

"Holla" is "holler." That's what one says when they wish another replies to them.

Dr Shrink wrote:

but I am reading your posts, with a lot of common biblical senses,
and between time .I am little bit worry that by some word or not proper using words belonging only to God alone,
you can fail not knowing this at all

Well, you must not be that worried if you won't even show me how I'm in error.

Dr Shrink wrote:

I don't discuss anything long , or supply any evidence,

That's not a good thing, at all.

Dr Shrink wrote:

I post only my biblical opinion,and exclude myself from any sectarian debates,teachings, or discussion treated like GAME among faken preachers or sectarian pastors

Understood. But, you can't enforce your opinions on others as if they're facts. Nor should anyone enforce anything as fact without providing some evidence.

Dr Shrink wrote:

From my deep biblical belief
GODS WORD IS NOT GAME, OR CHESS,OR GAMBLE BOARD,TO PLAY WITH,AND TO WIN OR LOSE
GODS PLAN AND HIS CHOSEN REMANAT IS EXCLUDED FROM SUCH EARTHLY WICKED GAMES,GAMBLE,OR SPIRITUAL CHESS PLAYERS WITH SECOND PARTIES

Then, we agree as far as that's concerned.

Dr Shrink wrote:

let me tell you
your prayers doesn't have any positive impact to influence GODS GRACE AND SHALOM GIVEN ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST-NOT THROUGH YOU AND YOUR PRAYERS

There's nothing that says we can't make requests when we pray, especially for other people. And I make requests, not demands.

Dr Shrink wrote:

I see from your posts level of your understanding other languages or deep senses of hebrew or koine language,
I see you as smart guy,but still not mature enough to know Gods Word not belonging to you-and you treat this Word like it is YOUR INFALIABLE WORD ABLING BY YOU OPEN EYES PEOPLE LIKE G_O_D

First, I've never even thought (never mind implied) that "God's" word belonged to me. Nevertheless, we're instructed to share "God's" word with others, regardless of the outcome.

Dr Shrink wrote:

WHAT I POST,I POST NACKED TRUTH,AND DOESN'T CARE IF I HURT ANYONE OF NOT

The difference between you and I, then, is that if I hurt anyone, it's not actually me doing the hurting, but "God's" word. It's called "wounds of a friend." And I never resort to name calling, or obsenities. And I do care, either way.

Dr Shrink wrote:

FOR ME PURE GODS WORD BELONG ONLY TO GOD, and we serve as children of obedience,to humbly rebuke,little advise send to others, and be far away from spiritual title and position awareded by this satanic world theological satanic spirit
have blessed day BLL

One.

[Rider on the Storm]

Juicylu wrote:

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I'd love to learn Hebrew <3

But then you'd have to learn the bible all over again..........

I've heard it doesnt translate well into english.....

[Rider on the Storm]

Counter_Strike wrote:

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I don't believe in a god. Pagans worship gods. Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) is the Most High Almighty One, the Ancient of Ancients. I do believe in the salvation of humanity (that is those who choose). I believe in the ben of Av Yahweh who is Yashiah Ha-Mashiach (barack be He). Not Iesous/Iezeus/Jezeus/Jesus. There was no man born in teh Hebrew household from the tribe of Judah called Jesus, the word is even English. More so, there was no letter 'J' in existence so why do people fgo along with all these things. many people including pastors know the truth but are comfortable with a lie. they either say it is a habit or it is comfortable. So yes, Ha-Mashiach died for our sins and is risen and shall return for His people.
Why do you ask this? I am curious.
:)
Andrew (CS).

I have to admit I havent read much of your postings. Thats pretty typical of me when someone uses the type of language you use. You throw alot of what is apparently Hebrew in your posts and it loses me very easily so I tend to scroll by those posts.

I happened to read the one I responded to and was surprised at what i read.

It sounded to me like you dont consider Yawheh a God (Higher then a God) but leave open the possibility that there are Gods, otherwise why mention Gods at all?

Thats a brand of christianity I've never heard of. You also mention to leave the new testament behind and go back to the original teachings, which would (at least in my eyes) diminish the role Jesus played in the bible..........

[Ashelah]

Rider on the Storm wrote:

<quoted text>But then you'd have to learn the bible all over again..........

I've heard it doesnt translate well into english.....

Lol. It would be worth it.
<3

[Dr Shrink]

Counter_Strike wrote:

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I am learning Hebrew, I am not fluent, not even close. hense, what I do when I communicate religiously speaking is to remove many of the pagan names and terms.
When did this become an attack on me? Sorry you feel that way but I won't change to suit you or anyone else save Yahweh (barack be He) tells me so. Therefore I will not be your zabach (sacrifice) so it makes you feel better.
You have been here for a long time mostly attacking people and all it rewards you with is hostility. It appears to excite you somehow, but that's none of my business. I have nothing further to explain if you can't be respectful. Try following some of the scriptures you quote.
Oh, and by the way, why not translate Daniel, and Ezekiel, and Nehemiah, and Samuel? These are not English names, yet you go through all this trouble to translate the name of the Most High and the Savior. Why bother translating them? This is why I wouldn't hold in depth discussions with you because you put down people as if you know a whole lot more and know better, but it seems you love that you have been deceived and adore clinging to a lie.
Have a nice day.
:)
Andrew (Counter_Strike).

most of them treat me hostile,because they are not belonging to the spiritual Church od God,and many of them are hipocrities,
you also sound like hipocrite,
pronoucing by self choice name of Jesus (Yeho shuah) or Yahveh(Jehova) seperating yourselves from less fortunate believers,

you are not part of any traaslation,or name Jeremiah.Ezekiel etc...

also your claim doesn't deffend you at all.

let me addDaniel is popular name in this western hemispehre and World-also waht is your point?

learning foreign langauge doesn't mean anything to stick some foreign words to the written posts,
it signify that person is mish mash mush with proper wrritings in one language(some add insultive language,some add like you add foreign hebrew not proper written language)

I never worry or caried those hostiles creatures,
if they would have power they would kill me like their fathers killed Jesus and persecuted apostles and heretics inside of churches basements tormented chambers of Don Jon.

name of the most High and His Son,have about 380 names pronounced in different langauges to the hearts of this mankind spoken all those langauge

why you don't writes Jesus name in greek Iesou, or german Yesu,or polish
why don;t you write in German most High name, Yehova,or polish,or russian

you are not able to spell english word and tell DZESUS,

and same time deceiving others how top guy are you,you mix hebrew Gods name and His Son also not properly.

also
please>don't worry if someone hate me, if they hated Lord and killed Him, His servant is not better from His Lord- also will be haten,persecuted,insulted,and if possible killed by dirty hands of worldwide church faken "saints" and false hipocrities so called teachers,scholars, and big bongos like you exposing all way around

have good day,
and take breath to cool down before reading my nacked truth about you mister Bo SC

[Rider on the Storm]

Juicylu wrote:

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Lol. It would be worth it.
<3

At least you would be closer to the true meanings of what the writers were trying to relate.

Of course once you jump that hurdle there are others. Like the audience of the writer, you need to learn the history of the times each book was written, and on and on.

Which really has to leave you skeptical that it was breathed, inspired or written by God..........

[Dr Shrink]

Rider on the Storm wrote:

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I have to admit I havent read much of your postings. Thats pretty typical of me when someone uses the type of language you use. You throw alot of what is apparently Hebrew in your posts and it loses me very easily so I tend to scroll by those posts.
I happened to read the one I responded to and was surprised at what i read.
It sounded to me like you dont consider Yawheh a God (Higher then a God) but leave open the possibility that there are Gods, otherwise why mention Gods at all?
Thats a brand of christianity I've never heard of. You also mention to leave the new testament behind and go back to the original teachings, which would (at least in my eyes) diminish the role Jesus played in the bible..........

THIS GUY MIXING hebrew with english,play big guy smart role
more smart from anyone?
bambling not proper hebrews words mixing with english not 100 biblical expalnations

you are right Hebrew,arameic,or greek koine is difficult to exchange properly in poor thought english language,

this way majority are deceived by devil and his modern english

to them belongs also CS

look how he translate Yahveh(using future time, not eternal present without of past or future

he just post nonsenses, only play on internet big shot(but he isnt?)
he