Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Sora

El Cajon, CA

#475760 Jan 10, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't lump Christians together.
I only care about the person. It doesn't matter his or her beliefs.
One of the very few people I place in the greatest esteem as an example of what a human being can achieve, was a Christian. He was the Chaplain at a major east-coast university I attended for my four-year undergraduate education. A wonderful man.
But there is a different type of Christian, the type that think they own this country; that they know the truth; that if we don't accept their faith, we're going to roast forever in a horrific hell that their god has all ready for us heathens.
Unfortunately, we have fair share of these ones.
Bonsoir mon ami, the problem with fundamentalism is the fact that they are blinded by their ego, they have no understanding of what real Christianity is nor do they understand compassion.

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#475761 Jan 10, 2013
If there is only one true God then someone either believes in him or they do not but there are not millions of other gods. Anyone can create an arbitrary number and claim someone doesnt believe in say 9,999 out of 1000 and the other doesnt believe in 1000 so they are only one off from each other out of a 1000. If there is only 1 then everything in the world seperates the lack of belief in the one.Whats more we can be even more general in our approach and go conceptual. Either someone believes there is a power (being) greater than themselves or they do not. Or someone believes the universe basically farted one day and the ripple created life from non-life and in perfect working reproducing order or they believe a higher intelligence created us. There is a huge difference between believing and not believing IMO. And in my experience easily as much arrogance exists from unbelievers. Although I bare them no ill will per se. People should be judged as individuals

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#475762 Jan 10, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Awwwww, SHUCKS!
Okay...okay...
Hold on there, fella...
How 'bout everyone zooms their screen to maximum level? Then, we'll only be able to see on verse at a time?!
C'mon, man. Will that work?
Puh-leeeeeeeeez!
Lol..as to your question as to how many hypocrites?This may sound callous or at best indifferent but dont know and dont care. I have no use for any person in my life that doesnt enhance it be it believer or unbeliever, hypocrite or not, man or woman, or any other classiification. My goal is to give help when needed and accept help when needed and try to make myself a better neighbor, a better friend, a better family member, a better believer, and a better human being. Anybody whose goals dont allign with mine or worse wish to make my goals harder to achieve can go their way and I will go mine. I just need to remind myself of that at times.(T) PEACE

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#475763 Jan 10, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
90% or more of the population believes in a higher power. I guess when someone is in a group of ten people it is easier to tell themselves it is the other 9 people that are weird not them! I pity those who cant believe in anyone greater than themselves
You reminded me of a saying that my father used to say, back in the day.

He would say, "There's always one odd one on the bus/train." And if you can't find them, that's because it's you!"

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#475764 Jan 10, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>You reminded me of a saying that my father used to say, back in the day.
He would say, "There's always one odd one on the bus/train." And if you can't find them, that's because it's you!"
Haha...probably more true than anyone wants to admit!

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#475765 Jan 10, 2013
Sora wrote:
<quoted text>fundamentalism is the fact that they are blinded by their ego,
Well I am not disagreeing but would just say keep in mind their numbers are not nearly as high as it seems. The lunatics today are the ones rising to power and getting the press and its because they appeal to the lowest common denominator and use faith to manipulate people. And the Dems use a lot of minority issues to manipulate people. But at the end of the day have any of these people made the faith better or the plight of minorities better? Or better in a way I should say that stands up to scrutiny? Most ppl that vote cant even allign the top 5 platform issues under the correct candidcate. But thump the Bible or go on Jerry Springer and chant "U.S.A...U.S.A" and people will hoot and holler right along side. People want to feel good and feel superior while knowing and doing as little as possible. These people are all fake imo and dont represent the vast majority, they are just the loudest.(T) PEACE

“Quo Vadis”

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#475766 Jan 10, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
Red Apples wrote:
Meekness and Humility.
God's Cure for Pride, Haughtiness, and Egotism.
Why should people be meek and humble? What problems are caused by pride, arrogance, ego, self-exaltation, haughtiness, and self-will? Should you learn self-assertiveness, or should you learn not to be proud and haughty? What does the Bible teach about meekness, humility, gentleness, and lowliness in contrast to pride, selfishness, self-will, and arrogance?
Introduction:
Two of the greatest characters in the Bible possessed in common the qualities we want to study in this lesson.
Numbers 12:3 - Moses was very meek, above all men on face of the earth.
Matthew 11:29,30 - Jesus said, "I am meek and lowly in heart."
These men were two of the greatest characters who ever lived. Both were chosen by God to be givers of His law. Jesus was the Divine Son of God. Surely we should seek to be like these men.
Other verses emphasize the importance of these qualities
Matthew 5:5 - Blessed are the meek (gentle - NKJV), for they shall inherit the earth. Jesus declares a "blessing" (happiness) on those who are meek.
Galatians 5:22,23 - Meekness is one of the fruits of the Spirit - qualities that we must possess if we are led by the Spirit.
Proverbs 16:18,19 - Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. It is better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly.
If we seek to be happy, to be led by the Spirit, to avoid destruction, and to be like great people such as Moses and Jesus, we need to possess meekness and humility.
It is the purpose of this lesson to study these qualities, what they are, and how they will affect our lives. As we study, we will frequently note Moses and Jesus as examples who teach us about meekness and humility.
http://www.gospelway.com/christianlife/meekne ...
Counter Strike wrote:
I must say I am quite astonished by you and your 180. I never knew you were this way unless you've always been this way but hid it from us. Please reexamine the post I am responding to and be mindful of the accusations you veil so subtly.
So please, don't create an issue where there should be none.
Andrew (Counter_Strike): So it is written, so let it be done.
Red Apples wrote:
Wow, rather ironic response considering you just got done saying quote: "Classic case of stone the messenger".
I just posted the message as the messenger Andrew. And you're reaction ties right in with what the message was.
Your bull in a China shop attitude of "I have the truth, why aren't you people listening" sure isn't being meek and humble Andrew. It's being very prideful and egotistical.
And as far as me doing a 180 goes, I think if you go back and follow my posts you'll see that I haven't changed at all when it comes to this subject and with hypocrisy. In fact I would say it's you that's changed and should look at yourself and how you've changed.
Oh I have changed,but instead of stagnancy I grow, I learn and grow some more. If you want to call it hypocrisy that's your business, has nothing to do with me. If you had bothered too read even a portion of my posts, you would see that I say repeatedly that I'm still learning, but at least I learn. I seek the Kingdom of the Most High rather than sit on my rump waiting for it to be taught to me in church. I want it, so I go and get it. People who wanted to see Yashua (barack be He) walked for miles, even days to come see Him and hear Him teach. They went and they sought.

Really, you can join the line of accusers, that's fine by me RA, but at least you can say you never heard the truth, no excuse for you friend. I have my faults and plenty, but you need to read the scripture you post about others and check if they apply to you first. I never had a problem with you before, always spoke to you with respect, concern and sincerity. I would rather ignore you than to take your aggressive stance as serious.

Andrew (CS).

“Quo Vadis”

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#475767 Jan 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been waiting for someone to admit something along the lines of:
"I know that English didn't exist 2000 years ago but it is the only language I understand and I have been calling Him Jesus so long it is difficult to change. BTW, I can't use Hebrew characters on Topix so even 'Yeshua' isn't correct.<smile>"
LOL x 20

Andrew (CS).

“Romans 8:1.”

Since: Aug 09

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#475768 Jan 11, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I have changed,but instead of stagnancy I grow, I learn and grow some more. If you want to call it hypocrisy that's your business, has nothing to do with me. If you had bothered too read even a portion of my posts, you would see that I say repeatedly that I'm still learning, but at least I learn. I seek the Kingdom of the Most High rather than sit on my rump waiting for it to be taught to me in church. I want it, so I go and get it. People who wanted to see Yashua (barack be He) walked for miles, even days to come see Him and hear Him teach. They went and they sought.
Really, you can join the line of accusers, that's fine by me RA, but at least you can say you never heard the truth, no excuse for you friend. I have my faults and plenty, but you need to read the scripture you post about others and check if they apply to you first. I never had a problem with you before, always spoke to you with respect, concern and sincerity. I would rather ignore you than to take your aggressive stance as serious.
Andrew (CS).
And you wonder why I posted what I did? Re-read what you just said in your post. In particular the following from you.

Quote: "you can join the line of accusers, that's fine by me RA, but at least you can say you never heard the truth, no excuse for you friend."

Now tell me, you can't see how ego driven that one statement alone is? You act as if you have the truth and nobody else does. And there's no excuse for anyone to say they haven't heard it because by God you're the one preaching it.

This post from you plus many of your other posts are purely ego driven. Full of self pride and no humility at all. And because your ego is driving you you are unable to see why I posted what I did. Which I'll post again.

If you honestly re-read what you posted, than re-read the message I posted (that was written by someone else), that you decided to shoot down rather than looking at what it says, and than looked at what you've been posting and did it with an open mind and an open spiritual heart that's open to correction I think you'd see how it applies to you Andrew.
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Meekness and Humility.

God's Cure for Pride, Haughtiness, and Egotism.

Why should people be meek and humble? What problems are caused by pride, arrogance, ego, self-exaltation, haughtiness, and self-will? Should you learn self-assertiveness, or should you learn not to be proud and haughty? What does the Bible teach about meekness, humility, gentleness, and lowliness in contrast to pride, selfishness, self-will, and arrogance?

Introduction:
Two of the greatest characters in the Bible possessed in common the qualities we want to study in this lesson.

Numbers 12:3 - Moses was very meek, above all men on face of the earth.

Matthew 11:29,30 - Jesus said, "I am meek and lowly in heart."

These men were two of the greatest characters who ever lived. Both were chosen by God to be givers of His law. Jesus was the Divine Son of God. Surely we should seek to be like these men.

Other verses emphasize the importance of these qualities

Matthew 5:5 - Blessed are the meek (gentle - NKJV), for they shall inherit the earth. Jesus declares a "blessing" (happiness) on those who are meek.

Galatians 5:22,23 - Meekness is one of the fruits of the Spirit - qualities that we must possess if we are led by the Spirit.

Proverbs 16:18,19 - Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. It is better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly.

If we seek to be happy, to be led by the Spirit, to avoid destruction, and to be like great people such as Moses and Jesus, we need to possess meekness and humility.

It is the purpose of this lesson to study these qualities, what they are, and how they will affect our lives. As we study, we will frequently note Moses and Jesus as examples who teach us about meekness and humility.

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#475769 Jan 11, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I have changed,but instead of stagnancy I grow, I learn and grow some more. If you want to call it hypocrisy that's your business, has nothing to do with me. If you had bothered too read even a portion of my posts, you would see that I say repeatedly that I'm still learning, but at least I learn. I seek the Kingdom of the Most High rather than sit on my rump waiting for it to be taught to me in church. I want it, so I go and get it. People who wanted to see Yashua (barack be He) walked for miles, even days to come see Him and hear Him teach. They went and they sought.
Really, you can join the line of accusers, that's fine by me RA, but at least you can say you never heard the truth, no excuse for you friend. I have my faults and plenty, but you need to read the scripture you post about others and check if they apply to you first. I never had a problem with you before, always spoke to you with respect, concern and sincerity. I would rather ignore you than to take your aggressive stance as serious.
Andrew (CS).
THAT..........was a very well thought out and sensible post, as well as respectful, I hope he appreciated it.

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#475770 Jan 11, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
If there is only one true God then someone either believes in him or they do not but there are not millions of other gods. Anyone can create an arbitrary number and claim someone doesnt believe in say 9,999 out of 1000 and the other doesnt believe in 1000 so they are only one off from each other out of a 1000. If there is only 1 then everything in the world seperates the lack of belief in the one.Whats more we can be even more general in our approach and go conceptual. Either someone believes there is a power (being) greater than themselves or they do not. Or someone believes the universe basically farted one day and the ripple created life from non-life and in perfect working reproducing order or they believe a higher intelligence created us. There is a huge difference between believing and not believing IMO. And in my experience easily as much arrogance exists from unbelievers. Although I bare them no ill will per se. People should be judged as individuals
Exactly, and that's the wonderful thing about it, we serve a JUST God who will judge everyone individually and not as a group.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#475771 Jan 11, 2013
GOoD Morning....

“Blessed are they, That can laugh at themselves,
For they will never cease to be amused.”

Thought for the Day

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#475772 Jan 11, 2013
Today's Prayer

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world" (John 16:33). O dear Father, you know the tribulations I have faced and will face. Thank you for giving me hope in the face of these trials and temptations! Please bring this Scripture to my mind whenever I am feeling down due to whatever may come. I am so happy and thankful that you have overcome the world and given me hope and a future. Because of your power and love and sacrifice, I too can overcome the world! You give me joy and cheer and initiative to keep moving forward. You are my greatest inspiration and encouragement, and I love you. In Jesus' name I come to you, amen.

Prime time with God

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#475773 Jan 11, 2013
Encouraging Words....

Don't let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, and trust also in me.

John 14:1

K-Love

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#475774 Jan 11, 2013
Why should "Jesus" Love me?

His name is JESUS....

King Of Glory (Third Day)

http://youtu.be/Aqo-adRyM_k

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#475775 Jan 11, 2013
Have a great Day everyone....

:-)

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#475776 Jan 11, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Edit Lee part 2. If you were walking down the street and saw someone fall and went to help them up..what are the odds they would tell you go F yourself or think you were implying they were not capable of getting up on their own or not smart enough or didnt know how? But try to help from the heart not even through correction but by witnessing to what you believe and suddenly you are the enemy. Sure everybody is gonna have times where they come across beliefs of others and think "man that is just ridiculous" and in those cases their prob wont be much to learn. But for the most part it supposed to be a body of believers with the same goal..to help each other and themselves to get as close to as much of the truth as we can. Even if we disagree..why the animosity and accusations so often? i have a lot of reasons for why I believe this happens but will keep them to myself.(T) PEACE
I would like to hear You answer your own questions that you just posted here..You may not realize it, but you just described yourself as well. Please dont think that you are innocent. You are the first to jump up and call other believers hypocrites and twist what others say, Especially, those you disagree with. Pot meet kettle!! You just do it in a coniving and cunning way and point at others faults just to justify your own actions. You are exactly right though..We are a Body of Believers..You are just as bad as everybody else Skom. So WHY are YOU this way? You are too quick to draw your own conclusions to those who YOU disagree with. Good day

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#475778 Jan 11, 2013
Believers never need fear a condemnatory judgment for sin. For every Christian this judgment is already past. When Jesus comes again He will have in His body the marks of crucifixion, and this will prove that the penalty for sin has been paid in full. Our Lord reassures us by His own word: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My word, and believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24). To this the Apostle Paul adds: “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1). Our souls rest forever upon these eternal words of our God. Have a Blessed Day

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#475779 Jan 11, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Shame on you, Grace Walker.
You say that this isn't a game, but then, this is your reply to me. Following are all the questions you chose to ignore rather than answer. You know...sometimes, it's just better to be honest and say you don't know than to answer as you did, or ignore the questions, altogether. First...
1Peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear.
And now...
Which of the following identifies with your definition of "unbeliever?"
1) A person that does not believe "God" exists, nor that He has an only-begotten Son that died for us, so therefore, does not feel it's expected of us to keep the commandments.
2) A person that does believe "God" exists, and that He has an only-begotten Son that died for us, but doesn't feel it's expected of us to keep the commandments.
3) A person that does believe "God" exists, and that He has an only-begotten Son that died for us, and feels it's expected of us to keep the commandments.
__________
Hebrews 12:28
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.
In this verse, the term for "reverence " is the Greek "deous." The term "fear" is derived from the Greek "eulabeias. " The definition of "reverence " is "fearful, " and the definition of "fear" is "awe" AND "caution. "
Fearful of what, I ask? Cautious of what, I ask?
__________
Romans 8:1-2
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death
Point #1: There's no condemnation to those who are in our anointed Savior.
QUESTION: How do we define one who's IN our anointed Savior?
Point #2: There's no condemnation to those who do not walk according to the flesh.
QUESTION: How do we define one that walks according to the flesh?
Point #3: There's no condemnation to those who walk according to the Spirit.
QUESTION: How do we define one that walks according to the Spirit?
What are the law of the Spirit and the law of sin and death?
__________
I know the answers, Grace Walker. I'm wondering what answers you'll give. And if you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you could share what you believe and not what some other theologian or commentator believes.
Thank you for your time and consideration, Grace Walker.
Until next time...
Shalowm.
I hope it's ok, I'd like to give these a go....
1 Peter 3:15
1) I chose 1 because I think an unbeliever, does not believe any of it.
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Hebrews 12:28
Fear, to me, feels like respect for God's commandments as well as fear of the consequences of sin eg; eternity without God. I am fearful of an eternity without God, I am cautious of denying God and falling prey to evil. I am also in awe of God and Jesus and wish to follow The Lord with all my heart. To me, this would include obedience and reverance. Simply, I dream of and wish for Heaven and am willing to trust God.
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To be cont...

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

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#475780 Jan 11, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
sir
learn little bit more about JW organisation
instead accusing them of fights with others,
YOU LIE LIKE FAT LIAR.
JW preach from door to door,and don't fight with anybody,even they refuse arms to kin military trainigs
please?post the truth not lies
also never GAMBLE OR MAKE GAMES with never changable Plan of God and His Word Bible Between two of people like you
Your hasardous games chalenge skombolis and others,
never forget Bible is not Las Vegas,nor Hollywood to play with God, and particpate in games,lots, of fight who is right about Bible,
truest me trifecta You are not right and know nothing about Bible,
apologistics webs printed by you,are not your spiritual personal food witness given to others,
never forget skombolis can teach you very straight road, and skombolis is 10000 miles away from your poor unmature beliefs based on Google,or on line apologetics
iaya!..you writing worse than me, I address one writer here
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
but you bring another writer in, that very confusuing. but I going to try and address you post writer.

When I say fight, I not mean jehovah's witnesses fight with fist and kick and gun, I mean fight over teachings and doctrine.

when the baptist argue with the teachings of the jehovah witness, or argument between catholic and protestans, or argument between baptist and pentecost, that not of Jesus.

that what I was telling that writer.

you not need anyone to teach you anything. Read the bible for yourself. It not matter if you think I know the bible. I read the bible for me, not you.

why you defending jehovah witness?? defend Jesus.

Jehovahs witness is just a religion. Religion is a fraud, Jesus is real.

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