Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Romans 8:1.”

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#475636 Jan 10, 2013
All of this "you must use this name, in this language", or "you must pray this way", or "I have this knowledge that you don't", etc... does nothing but glorify ones self and brings no glory where it belongs. And that's to our Heavenly Father.

The Saviour taught the following.

Matthew 6:1-13.

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475637 Jan 10, 2013
Many people come here showing off their vast, some not so vast amounts of knowledge and to this day, many of the lot have not shown for us to be a witness any kind of growth. One would think if they were in this room for a thousand years (if this were possible), they would still be saying the same thing over, and over and over again showing no growth, increase in understanding or the capacity to think for themselves.

I understand that we all can't be the same. Some are leaders who have the capacity to follow when needs be, and others are followers who want to be leaders but end up being bosses never knowing that they are still basically followers. There are those who are only comfortable with what they have been taught and there are those who seek and go out there and learn and not just settle for what they have been taught.(seek ye first...) the key word being seek.

So I very well can't blame many people who either show a one track mind or the lack of patience or tolerance to learn something new or better. Those I blame are the ones who know better and do otherwise. Know the truth and still tell a lie, understand the ancient principles but prefer to pervert it because it suits them more or it's more popular. I am not in the crowd. The crowd according to scripture wanted Barabbas released and the savior done away with. Many still crucify Him today in ignorance or even purposefully so.

We are all human beings who should be loving each other, respecting each other and wanting better for ourselves as individuals and as a people. Yet we have become so mired in sketchy doctrine and polluted dogma and would rather choose to stay with it and be sheltered from the snow rather that go out in the yard and to the high gates to let Yashua in.

Many are comfortable in doing away with the commandments because they either have a huge cross put up in their church or a statue of a man name Jesus in their church yard. It is fashionable for the woman to walk half naked in the streets or in music videos and pierce everywhere and for our 13 and 14 year olds to date, kiss and grope. It is ok for a man to cheat because he's a man and a woman to cheat because he cheated first. It is also ok for people to bring a casket with the dead into the church/temple and defile it because that's normal too. It is also normal and ok, for Catholics, Jehova's Witnesses, Mormans, Baptists, SDAs and Pentecostal to fight over the one same Jesus you believe in. I suppose nothing is wrong with that.
Yet many of you would be the first to say; "God" is not the author of confusion. Then if He isn't, then who is?

:)

Counter_Strike: So it is written, so let it be done.
Sora

San Diego, CA

#475638 Jan 10, 2013
Bonjour to all, may God bless each and every one of you on this beautiful morning. This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

P.S.

Tous les matins du monde.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#475639 Jan 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
If you believe Jesus is God.
I do. You don't. Good for you,no let anyone change your mind.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#475640 Jan 10, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
<quoted text>
Bonjour mon ami, it was an honor to meet you as well. Our lives are a learning experience that we all share together.
Shalom Seraphine. It is also my pleasure to meet you. Yes, only the dead do not learn (physically or spiritually dead). So we learn, so that humanity doesn't remain stuck. The truth comes, but there is more to understand of it, so we learn some more. If Adolf Hitler was into learning and not be so arrogant, then he wouldn't have pretty much made the same mistake Napoleon made and get caught in the brutal Russian winter. So too are we, if we refuse to learn, may meet the same fate. I have no problems with someone disagreeing with me, Christian or otherwise, but I would prefer the disagreement be with discussion and intelligence rather than insults and one-upsmanship.

I know very little and still have a whole lot to learn. Some people may know less or more than I do but prefer to remain as a plant stuck in a flower pot and that plant neither grows nor do their roots flourish. It is easy to tell the people based on their reaction(s) to what is being said/presented. There are some that will agree, some disagree with reason and other who prepare to burn you at the stake and then ask you questions after you've been done away with. Of all the advancements of man, the advancement of our spiritual witness and knowledge have been the slowest in all our history.

Shalom m'lady,

Andrew (CS).
every troll here but you

Blacklick, OH

#475641 Jan 10, 2013
He has to love you. Warts, acne, morning breath, bad hair, sins and all! It's his job.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#475642 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
Many people come here showing off their vast, some not so vast amounts of knowledge and to this day, many of the lot have not shown for us to be a witness any kind of growth. One would think if they were in this room for a thousand years (if this were possible), they would still be saying the same thing over, and over and over again showing no growth, increase in understanding or the capacity to think for themselves.
I understand that we all can't be the same. Some are leaders who have the capacity to follow when needs be, and others are followers who want to be leaders but end up being bosses never knowing that they are still basically followers. There are those who are only comfortable with what they have been taught and there are those who seek and go out there and learn and not just settle for what they have been taught.(seek ye first...) the key word being seek.
So I very well can't blame many people who either show a one track mind or the lack of patience or tolerance to learn something new or better. Those I blame are the ones who know better and do otherwise. Know the truth and still tell a lie, understand the ancient principles but prefer to pervert it because it suits them more or it's more popular. I am not in the crowd. The crowd according to scripture wanted Barabbas released and the savior done away with. Many still crucify Him today in ignorance or even purposefully so.
We are all human beings who should be loving each other, respecting each other and wanting better for ourselves as individuals and as a people. Yet we have become so mired in sketchy doctrine and polluted dogma and would rather choose to stay with it and be sheltered from the snow rather that go out in the yard and to the high gates to let Yashua in.
Many are comfortable in doing away with the commandments because they either have a huge cross put up in their church or a statue of a man name Jesus in their church yard. It is fashionable for the woman to walk half naked in the streets or in music videos and pierce everywhere and for our 13 and 14 year olds to date, kiss and grope. It is ok for a man to cheat because he's a man and a woman to cheat because he cheated first. It is also ok for people to bring a casket with the dead into the church/temple and defile it because that's normal too. It is also normal and ok, for Catholics, Jehova's Witnesses, Mormans, Baptists, SDAs and Pentecostal to fight over the one same Jesus you believe in. I suppose nothing is wrong with that.
Yet many of you would be the first to say; "God" is not the author of confusion. Then if He isn't, then who is?
:)
Counter_Strike: So it is written, so let it be done.
I care not to debate or to argue any type of point you made in your post. I will give you my opinion to your last question in one word."MANKIND"

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#475643 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
Many people come here showing off their vast, some not so vast amounts of knowledge and to this day, many of the lot have not shown for us to be a witness any kind of growth. One would think if they were in this room for a thousand years (if this were possible), they would still be saying the same thing over, and over and over again showing no growth, increase in understanding or the capacity to think for themselves.
I understand that we all can't be the same. Some are leaders who have the capacity to follow when needs be, and others are followers who want to be leaders but end up being bosses never knowing that they are still basically followers. There are those who are only comfortable with what they have been taught and there are those who seek and go out there and learn and not just settle for what they have been taught.(seek ye first...) the key word being seek.
So I very well can't blame many people who either show a one track mind or the lack of patience or tolerance to learn something new or better. Those I blame are the ones who know better and do otherwise. Know the truth and still tell a lie, understand the ancient principles but prefer to pervert it because it suits them more or it's more popular. I am not in the crowd. The crowd according to scripture wanted Barabbas released and the savior done away with. Many still crucify Him today in ignorance or even purposefully so.
We are all human beings who should be loving each other, respecting each other and wanting better for ourselves as individuals and as a people. Yet we have become so mired in sketchy doctrine and polluted dogma and would rather choose to stay with it and be sheltered from the snow rather that go out in the yard and to the high gates to let Yashua in.
Many are comfortable in doing away with the commandments because they either have a huge cross put up in their church or a statue of a man name Jesus in their church yard. It is fashionable for the woman to walk half naked in the streets or in music videos and pierce everywhere and for our 13 and 14 year olds to date, kiss and grope. It is ok for a man to cheat because he's a man and a woman to cheat because he cheated first. It is also ok for people to bring a casket with the dead into the church/temple and defile it because that's normal too. It is also normal and ok, for Catholics, Jehova's Witnesses, Mormans, Baptists, SDAs and Pentecostal to fight over the one same Jesus you believe in. I suppose nothing is wrong with that.
Yet many of you would be the first to say; "God" is not the author of confusion. Then if He isn't, then who is?
people. is people create confusion. people free moral agents. they can do things in their knowledge and wisdom but if God not in it then confusion eventually come.

you know why people that know better not do it? simple thing call rebellion. been happening since adam eve and that won't change. they knew better, but they was tempted to rebel, and they rebel.

what you talking there is religion fighting other religion. Jesus not in that. the jehovah witness fight the baptist that fight the pentecost that fight the seventh day. that not have anything to do with Jesus. that the evil heart of man and the bankruptcy of religion.

I talk with people from other religion, hindu or muslim. And we talk Jesus. no fuss or fight. religion is a dangerous thing. religion and Jesus is like oil and water.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475644 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
You fail to understand something my most confused friend who likes to dance. When did He ever say He was the Most High of the Ammonites, or the Hitites, or the Jebuzites or the Amalakites? When did He say He was the Shar of Rome, or Egypt or Babylon?
He did not say that now did He. Yisra'el were given the commandments and they know Him by name. The canaanites knew Him and perverted His worship just like many of you do today and find excuses for it. You all make a B'Rit (covenant) against Him and zaback (sacrifice) His ben (son) all over and over again.
He is the Almighty Creator of all things, whether in the air above, or the land beneath or the depths of water. The majority reject Him setting up all sorts of gods and idols.
I really have no care for your insults and they do not move me. Many people here prefer to have problems rather than not, so I will choose not to get into a pi$$ing match with you. You mix and match your worship, yet you seem to know the right thing but do otherwise. That's not on me, that's not my fault, I had nothing to do with it. You seem to have me on your mind a lot. Great to know you think of me so much, but sorry, I do not need nor do I require such attention.
Shalom.
CS.
end of any faken debates
and twisting senses of my posts,and Bible at all

I don't have you on my mind,
somene have your name under scruitny,and someone use human pen and ink to warn you,
that is all
I as pen and ink have nothing to do with you and your mind

attention about you will be expire when you find own phisical body and not existing soul 6 feet down in coffin

Just correct your own mistake,and spend more time on the road to spiritual maturity and
sucess

have nice evening

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#475645 Jan 10, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
All of this "you must use this name, in this language", or "you must pray this way", or "I have this knowledge that you don't", etc... does nothing but glorify ones self and brings no glory where it belongs. And that's to our Heavenly Father.
The Saviour taught the following.
Matthew 6:1-13.
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
While I understand what you're saying and the angle in which you view this from, I will have to say I disagree. Teaching the truth is not an attempt to bring glory to myself. The truth comes and it must be given, not kept for myself. If the truth was hidden from me then I would be living in the partial darkness or total darkness that I have been in before. Day by day we learn and we grow. Some would prefer to learn and not grow if there learning is going to make their comfortable lives not so comfortable anymore....even that's understandable. When one knows the truth and ignores it, then they err, worse, if they know the truth and do otherwise then it is a sin. We are not called to remain in ignorance, then again, many of us will not see the truth even if the truth was the bed they sleep in every night. The name may seem insignificant to you or to may, but the name means more that people would care to know.

2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
********

Acts 4:12 (KJV)

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
********

It is in His name that people are/should be immersed (baptized). He is the resurrection and the Life. He is also The way, The Truth and The Life, no one goes to the father but by Him. Knowing all of this to be true, people are willing to risk it all on translated names and shaky doctrine just so they can sleep well at night? Apparently, names in those days were treated with much more respect than they are today. In today's word, someone named Robert is called Bob, John called Jack, William called Bill. The fact is, even if we prefer it to be so, if my name was John and you called me Jack I would not answer you. If this world has another 100 years of existence, one has to wonder what next they will call the Savior.

Shalom!

Andrew (CS).
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475646 Jan 10, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>people. is people create confusion. people free moral agents. they can do things in their knowledge and wisdom but if God not in it then confusion eventually come.
you know why people that know better not do it? simple thing call rebellion. been happening since adam eve and that won't change. they knew better, but they was tempted to rebel, and they rebel.
what you talking there is religion fighting other religion. Jesus not in that. the jehovah witness fight the baptist that fight the pentecost that fight the seventh day. that not have anything to do with Jesus. that the evil heart of man and the bankruptcy of religion.
I talk with people from other religion, hindu or muslim. And we talk Jesus. no fuss or fight. religion is a dangerous thing. religion and Jesus is like oil and water.
sir
learn little bit more about JW organisation

instead accusing them of fights with others,
YOU LIE LIKE FAT LIAR.

JW preach from door to door,and don't fight with anybody,even they refuse arms to kin military trainigs

please?post the truth not lies

also never GAMBLE OR MAKE GAMES with never changable Plan of God and His Word Bible Between two of people like you

Your hasardous games chalenge skombolis and others,

never forget Bible is not Las Vegas,nor Hollywood to play with God, and particpate in games,lots, of fight who is right about Bible,

truest me trifecta You are not right and know nothing about Bible,

apologistics webs printed by you,are not your spiritual personal food witness given to others,

never forget skombolis can teach you very straight road, and skombolis is 10000 miles away from your poor unmature beliefs based on Google,or on line apologetics
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475647 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
While I understand what you're saying and the angle in which you view this from, I will have to say I disagree. Teaching the truth is not an attempt to bring glory to myself. The truth comes and it they sleep in every night. The name may seem insignificant to you
!
Andrew (CS).
sir
you contradict your own thoughts
because all your posts doesn't teach the truth,onlt teach your own and your zionistic church man made doctrines,

this way your specualtive posts brings you to reap own glory,and own dreaams to be great Teacher dictate own terms for God and others reading your posts,

even your displaye awatar completly separate you from others by your own proud

never forget 7 stars and 7 lamps are spiritual High Value of all ages shining from High Heavens(Schamaya)
not from Jerusalem full of murederous leaders offering own people to the horible sufferings and death

man
get awake of your earthly teachings
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475648 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh?
What is a FONNY BALONNY? Some sort of god?
CS.
check Google
maybe you will start think normaly

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#475649 Jan 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
The "staff of life" in human form is the Pagan "wicker man". A human sacrifice to "The Father". Same as the Sumerian sacrifice Abram was asked to do with Ishmael (or Isaac) for his God-King Melchezidek.
Often used for fiesteas,Druids of Gaul perfomed sacrifices.
Caesar stated that Druids used thieves and crimals as they
pleased their God's more.Not into Wicca and paganism.

Who gave his mother a supply of bread and water.

Smile I already know you are a raskel.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475650 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Elected by what god? Be careful how you cast judgment upon yourself my friend.
CS.
for sure not your own glory god,and sectarian doctrines of your church

rather watch if your road is straight,and be careful not to be all the time in the deep dark ditch Mat 15;14

trust me,you have not any part to command God whom He elect?

your judgement is not judgement at all,
during establishing in Jerusalem NWO Capitol and your faken king, for sure
TRUE SAR SHALOM WILL BRING PEACE AND SECURITY REMOVING THIS king of your church and such little judges like you
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475651 Jan 10, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you saying here?
take Ydish basic 10 days courses on line, maybe you will learn foreign Ydish grammar and symantics
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475652 Jan 10, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
If you believe Jesus is God that doesn't change the fact that Jesus isn't God.
You really should put down that double edged sword.
his sword is borrowed
and he doesn't know that this sword is made from pine wood

you are right
Nothing is able to Change INFINITE REALITY AND GODS PLAN?

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#475653 Jan 10, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God (Luke 12:5; Hebrews 10:31). For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer's fear is reverence of God. Hebrews 12:28-29 is a good description of this:“Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our ’God is a consuming fire.’” This reverence and awe is exactly what the fear of God means for Christians. This is the motivating factor for us to surrender to the Creator of the Universe.
Believers are not to be scared of God. We have no reason to be scared of Him. We have His promise that nothing can separate us from His love (Romans 8:38-39). We have His promise that He will never leave us or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5). Fearing God means having such a reverence for Him that it has a great impact on the way we live our lives. The fear of God is respecting Him, obeying Him, submitting to His discipline, and worshipping Him in awe.
Recommended Resource: Knowing God by J.I. Packer.
Which of the following identifies with your definition of "unbeliever?"

1) A person that does not believe "God" exists, nor that He has an only-begotten Son that died for us, so therefore, does not feel it's expected of us to keep the commandments.

2) A person that does believe "God" exists, and that He has an only-begotten Son that died for us, but doesn't feel it's expected of us to keep the commandments.

3) A person that does believe "God" exists, and that He has an only-begotten Son that died for us, and feels it's expected of us to keep the commandments.
__________

Hebrews 12:28
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.

In this verse, the term for "reverence" is the Greek "deous." The term "fear" is derived from the Greek "eulabeias." The definition of "reverence" is "fearful," and the definition of "fear" is "awe" AND "caution."

Fearful of what, I ask? Cautious of what, I ask?

Until next time...

Shalowm.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#475654 Jan 10, 2013
...And again...

...the term "fear" found in 2Timothy 1:7 is, actually, more accurately rendered, in English, "cowardice," from the Greek "deilias." This definition is likened to timidity. In essence, Paul was strengthening Timothy, that Timothy not be afraid to use the gifts he had received, nor to share the gospel with others. This particular "fear" has nothing, at all, to do with fear of consequence.

Thank you for your time and consideration, Grace Walker.

Until next time...

Shalowm.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#475655 Jan 10, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
BROTHER LEE.....I am going to tread lightly here as I don't want to rock the boat too much after the last few weeks but Hebrews,Phillipians, Ecclesiates, Peter, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are just some of the books the message is repeated. Basically in every writing but those of Paul. While I still strongly believe we had different authors for a reason and everybody had their own story to tell and that by looking at everything together we get the complete picture, I do think it is important to consider why we have the New Testament and what it teaches and to whom. The entire NT teaches forgiveness of sins through the blood of Christ. It teaches the shift from Law to Grace. And it shows what is required of children of God and the commandments we are under. Would so many books teach things that apply today while also including things that do not apply today? Would the Holy Spirit remind us of teachings that never applied to us? IMHO either we are under the NT or not. Partly doesnt make sense to me (T) PEACE
In all you asserted, the only disagreement I have is in how you say "from Law to Grace."

It's not grace that's new, but the subject to receive grace. Our anointed Savior came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. Therefore, the law (shedding of blood), it's purpose (remission of sins), and it's result (forgiveness, reconciliation, and grace), remain. The change, as I said, is the subject. The transference of subjects was from a literal animal (a lamb) to our anointed Savior (The Lamb), as you well know.

Other than that, I agree. Our anointed Savior came and taught the spiritual application of the law to prepare, Israel first and foremost, for this changing of subjects. Israel (and the Gentiles by extension) were released from the responsibility of animal sacrifice and freed from the penalty of death. Now, all that was to be focused on was learning righteousness without such burdens.

Until next time...

Shalowm.

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