Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475476 Jan 9, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I can understand the point if you are saying you somewhat liken God to a force of a nature or something very powerful and that your belief is something so above mankind might not be concerned about communicating with beings so far below it such as humans. I have even seem some suggest it is hubris to think He would. I could even somewhat agree it would be if I did not believe God created us. While not an exact comparison obviously I owned a dog for almost 17 years. While in the life hierarchy animals are far below men (at least as things are set up, whether they should be is debatable considering what we do with our intellect at times) yet I loved that dog with all my heart and would have risked my life to save him if his life was in jeopardy.
So I believe it is natural for God to love His creation and that He would want us to understand Him at least a little and what He expects from us. So why communicate through man I guess is the question. My belief is that to do so any other way would remove the need for faith. For whatever reason, the way things work IMO is a crucial element of our spiritual walk must be based on faith. God isn't interested in those who believe because there is zero way for them not to. He wants us to feel His call and search him out. Whether that is through the Word or in some other way, it is that willingness and desire to repent and seek out God that makes our hearts open to change He wants to instill in us. So could God provide a message instantly understood and believed by all people where there is no doubt it came from a higher power? Yes I think he could easily. But He goes through man because he works through people, through their hearts, and through their minds.
One passage is the Bible God speaks to his BELOVED and says they obey not only in his sight but at all times. I believe this is somewhat comparable to faith. If we believed simply because there was no way not to then faith and the reward of an eternal life becomes no different than a child who is good only to get presents at Christmas. For the same reason Pascal's Wager is not real faith, nor would belief and trust in God be sincere if people knew they essentially had no choice. It is in believing that we make the choice to follow, to repent, to believe and trust in something unseen and greater than ourselves where the true test lies. That is what makes us open to becoming a new creation.
It says only a wicked generation asks for a sign which I see as equivalent as asking for proof. God is not going to give us proof. He wants us to have faith. granted this is somewhat speculation as we can never truly know the complete mind of God but I am convinced faith is key and why He requires faith instead of giving proof that even that most sinful, unrepentant man couldn't deny. If he did that, how many would go through the motions knowing they had to? In a way it is the same as it saying God loves a cheerful giver because it comes from the heart. For our relationship with God to do what it needs to do it must be built on faith on trust IMHO
(T) Peace
Your responses are very passionate Steve, almost emotional. I understand what you're saying. Yes, if you ask Yahweh (barack be He) for help or for wisdom, knowledge, understanding or to repair a breach, he will listen and answer, and His answer can come in several ways, even through another person or something you see in your yard. He understands that though we must choose daily and walk our path ourselves having free will, he knows we need help at times along the way and isn't too big to lend a hand if sincerely needed. he will barack His people in so many ways because this life and the people around us are more often times designed to break us down and cause us to give in, all because of sin. He recognizes this and will give us a nudge in teh right direction if we are lost and in need of rescue.

Shalom!

Andrew (CS).

Since: Oct 12

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#475477 Jan 9, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Yeah, I've been wondering that a fair bit lately and have decided to try harder not to argue. Thank you, I'm glad you're well. Many Blessings <3
Hi Juicylu;
I sure afew people who started out on the internet have meet each others in person to person by arrangements.But other side of coin is reality of it all what really is the chance of meeting someone you talk to on the internet.Usuual Zero.About like trying to win a jack pot lottery gotta buy the ticket no ticket no possible chance of winning.No arrangement no meeting.And then there is the variety oh wow that is a jack pot too.Some are game players,some sincere and some just there for entertainment and then the reasons for posting oh wow again that is another jack pot too.A variety of ideas.I come and share mostly posted on my own post.Then leave it up to the ones who want to protake and the one that do not just pass it all forward.Some times I mess with some on a post for a smile but if no reply give the respect and make a note to leave there post alone.I will t mail a apolize if I think I have offended in some measureable way.One gives it some serious throught arguing solves nothin.have a good day.God bless.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#475478 Jan 9, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Aha!
Stalking me? Again?
You stalker you!
Wherever I go, you stalk me.
You are obsessed with me.
I didn't post to you, but you can't help following me.
Sound familiar? Eh?
I see you avoided his questions. But your unprovoked answer does lend to you attributing your time here to something.

What up?

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#475479 Jan 9, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Interesting. Very interesting indeed.
:)
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I'm not sure if you are or are not speaking about me but it may not be me because I don't believe in a god/God (same thing). Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) is higher than any god/God/got/gawd. Being committed to the Bible has nothing to do with Christianity unless you say the NT. From Genesis to deuteronomy is the Torah, then you have the second writings which is the Nevi'm/Prophets (or Tanakh) then you have the Ketuvim (writings) which we call the NT, even though there really is no such thing as an Old and a New Testament for that in itself creates problems.
Many people nowadays are going back to the roots, the ancient and righteous way of worship and living. Many may not know why they drift away from Christianity, but more than likely they were called out. The old wine made people drunk (the old wine from the harlot and her many daughters) so in these times when they are to receive the new wine they are either drunk or too full and want no more. I bet many do not understand why Yashua Ha-Mashiach's first miracle at a wedding was to turn water into wine? Interesting eh?
Continued....
I'm pretty sure he's talking about me. I'll answer eventually.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#475480 Jan 9, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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Interesting. Very interesting indeed.
:)
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I'm not sure if you are or are not speaking about me but it may not be me because I don't believe in a god/God (same thing). Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) is higher than any god/God/got/gawd. Being committed to the Bible has nothing to do with Christianity unless you say the NT. From Genesis to deuteronomy is the Torah, then you have the second writings which is the Nevi'm/Prophets (or Tanakh) then you have the Ketuvim (writings) which we call the NT, even though there really is no such thing as an Old and a New Testament for that in itself creates problems.
Many people nowadays are going back to the roots, the ancient and righteous way of worship and living. Many may not know why they drift away from Christianity, but more than likely they were called out. The old wine made people drunk (the old wine from the harlot and her many daughters) so in these times when they are to receive the new wine they are either drunk or too full and want no more. I bet many do not understand why Yashua Ha-Mashiach's first miracle at a wedding was to turn water into wine? Interesting eh?
Continued....
So you believe their are more then one God? Interesting......

Do you believe, for salvation, you must believe Jesus died for your sins?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#475481 Jan 9, 2013
Prelude to the Levitical Offering of Jesus

The premises upon which the following analysis is based are that Jesus and John the Baptist were very similar. Both had large followings and each was thought by many to be the Messiah.

Biblical Sacrifices and Offerings follow exacting rituals and have exacting requirements. One can not just kill a sheep and call it a "Sacrifice", that would be considered a pagan practice at best.

This is not a religious analysis but a comparison of New to Old Testamants to see how Jesus in particular fits into the Torah Laws governing Sacrifices and Offerings.

The term in the Torah translated as sheep or goat actually means "one of the flock" no species is mentioned. This is a reason why many investigators have postulated that the sacrificial victims may have been human ones in early Judaism. The sacrifice is to be, in simpleterms, "The best of the flock". Both John and Jesus meet this requirement.

(to be c0ntinued)

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Sacramento, CA

#475482 Jan 9, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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I see you avoided his questions. But your unprovoked answer does lend to you attributing your time here to something.
What up?
Havin' fun.

Topix is entertainment.

Yo dude.

Since: Dec 12

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#475483 Jan 9, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>I'm pretty sure he's talking about me. I'll answer eventually.
*chuckle*
<3

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475484 Jan 9, 2013
Seraphine wrote:
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Bonjour mon ami. The word amen is Hebrew and is used as a declaration of affirmation. English translations are verily and truly in Arabic they say Amin which means so bei it. The word is also used in Judaism as well. Amongst Ashkenazi Jews they say Aw-mayn and amonst Sephardic Jews ah-men. It also be used as a word of agreement as well. May you be blessed forevermore.
Shalom Seraphine sir/ma'am; with all due respect I must emphatically disagree with you. I was just trying to see if it would make you alert yourself to the word, hence, do a bit of digging. The word 'Amen' is in no way, shape or form Hebrew. Yisra'el (Israel) fell into paganism several times and suffered the consequences. When israel left babylon, they left with a lot of strange beliefs including the pagan Babylonian calendar. When they were redeemed from Egypt, it was the same and again it cost them.

Amen is a derivitive of Amun as in Amun-Ra, a marriage between a sun deity Ra and the deity from Thebes called Amun. It was the chief or dominant god in the Egyptian pantheon during the new kingdom with the exception of when Ankhenaten (Aten/Aton [the sun-disc]) became Pharaoh. Amun is the same as Amen just as Aten and Aton are the same. It ends a sentence, chant, prayer or certain sacrifices in the paying of homage to the pagan deity Amun. So while it may be used in Judaism to some extent, the word is hardly Hebrew in its origin. Hallel-u-Yah(weh) is an entirely different story.

:)

Shalom!

Andrew (CS).

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475485 Jan 9, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
ANDREW....gotta respond here for space. Hopefully you see it. A lot of food for thought in that post. What do you think about what Paul says in Romans 13? I think it is verses 1-10 or 1-12. Right it that range but basically where he says the law is now covered by the two greatest commandments because would someone murder if they loved their neighbor or would someone (i forget the other sins listed but you get the idea) who loves their neighbor sin against them and the answer is no.And he says we have no more debt other than the ongoing debt to love one another. Not all the law was retained from my understanding but most of it as far as anything that common sense would dictate falls under the 2 greatest commandments. I say not all as some things that were against the law that seemed more customary like mixing of cloths or things like that.But now instead of being beholden to the law we are now under the two greatest commandments which incorporates parts that would violate loving God or neighbor. JMO (T) Peace
I agree but it doesn't void the 10 Commandments. The first four commands are for Loving Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He), the last 6 are about loving your neighbor. Therefore, love Yahweh thy Elohiym with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your strength, then Love thy neighbor as thyself.

1 John 4:8 (KJV) in the now copies of scripture states:

8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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The Commandments are not about Hate but about Love, but because deceit, envy, lust and wickedness can always be found within us, we cannot keep the Law perfectly so therefore cannot inherrit a perfect Kingdom. So here is where the Living Breathing (Aleph Bet) Word steps in to set things straight. The Savior (who is the rock cut out of the mountain without hands) teaches even by His life, death and resurrection what the Law is all about so through Him and Him alone we might be saved. The Law points us to Him, without the Law we would not know Him. Hence, one of teh criminals who dared him to get down from the cross, he was lawless and love was not found within him. The Law shows us that we are filled with hate therefore we are in need of a Savior.

Shalom and Love,

Andrew (CS).

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475486 Jan 9, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
Good evening all.
Got home form the Hospital a couple hours ago and had some time to pop in here so I thought I would. All went well with my surgery. The implant of the ICD device went smoothly and wasn't to intrusive. It only took about an hour and a half.
I pretty much slept through most of the procedure and don't recall much from the time that the Doctor walked into the surgical unit to the time that I woke up still in the unit just as they were getting ready to wheel me to my room. I've had some expected pain around the area where the device was implanted but nothing overwhelming, and as each hour passes the pain gets better.
I'll check beck later. Have a great evening. God bless.
I hope you feel better soon Red Apples. I pray your speedy recovery.

Shalom & Love,

Andrew (CS).

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475487 Jan 9, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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can you explain why you use word Quo Vadis?(where you go?)
do you know that book Quo Vadis-Domine was written by RCC about apostle Peter who travel to Rome and meet Domine(Lord) and Peter asked Him QUO VADIS DOMINE?
(RCC STORY IS APOSTAZY AND FAKE,BECAUSE PETER NEVER TRAVEL OR WAS IN ROME,AND NEVER MEET LORD ON HIS WAY TO ROME)
do you know that word Shalom only belongs to Sar Shalom Izaiah 9;6?
AND ONLY SAR SHALOM CAN GIVE HIS SHALOM TO HIS PEOPLE,NOT TO EVERYONE?
YOU CLAIM TO BE HEBREW,YOU SUPPOSE TO KNOW THIS EXCELENTLY.
anyway
I enjoy your posts?
have nice evening
I am very happy for your imput, thank you. Yes, Quo Vadis Domine was written under the authority and supervision of the RCC, but Quo Vadis is Latin and not necessarily church lingo which means, "whither dost thou goest? or where are you going" or where do you go?"

I know a lot of things, but I don't know everything. I speak of what I know but if I'm guessing I just stay out of it. If I have an opinion then I say so. I don't try to bully people nor do I expect everyone to understand or even respect what I say. I am here having discussions with people because I believe most want intelligent discussion. At the end of teh day, no one may change anything they originally believed but at least knowledge was shared.

We are not called to save anyone but called to obedience, because I cannot save anyone. Only one can save and that is Yashua Ha-Mashiach (barack be He), ben of Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) and our shar and malek.

Shalom Malekiym,

Andrew (CS).
samgirl

Ashburn, VA

#475488 Jan 9, 2013
jesus is our saviour...we have every season to love him.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475489 Jan 9, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about me. I'll answer eventually.
Excellent.

:)

Andrew (CS).

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475490 Jan 9, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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So you believe their are more then one God? Interesting......
Do you believe, for salvation, you must believe Jesus died for your sins?
I don't believe in a god. Pagans worship gods. Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) is the Most High Almighty One, the Ancient of Ancients. I do believe in the salvation of humanity (that is those who choose). I believe in the ben of Av Yahweh who is Yashiah Ha-Mashiach (barack be He). Not Iesous/Iezeus/Jezeus/Jesus. There was no man born in teh Hebrew household from the tribe of Judah called Jesus, the word is even English. More so, there was no letter 'J' in existence so why do people fgo along with all these things. many people including pastors know the truth but are comfortable with a lie. they either say it is a habit or it is comfortable. So yes, Ha-Mashiach died for our sins and is risen and shall return for His people.

Why do you ask this? I am curious.
:)

Andrew (CS).

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475491 Jan 9, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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So you believe their are more then one God? Interesting......
Do you believe, for salvation, you must believe Jesus died for your sins?
My apologies; that is Yashua Ha-Mashiach.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#475492 Jan 9, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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.... Yisra'el (Israel) fell into paganism several times and suffered the consequences. When israel left babylon, they left with a lot of strange beliefs including the pagan Babylonian calendar. When they were redeemed from Egypt, it was the same and again it cost them....
You might appreciate the Samaritan Torah. The Samaritans consider themselves the "True Israelites" and reject the Babylonian Torah as well as the "writings" and "prophets" as Judean/Babylonian "uninspired propaganda".

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#475493 Jan 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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You might appreciate the Samaritan Torah. The Samaritans consider themselves the "True Israelites" and reject the Babylonian Torah as well as the "writings" and "prophets" as Judean/Babylonian "uninspired propaganda".
The Samaritan Torah? Never heard of it before you mentioned it. I know the Samaritals were Hebrew/Israel but many looked down upon them as lesser it seems. Do you have this book?

Shalom & Love,

Andrew (CS).
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475494 Jan 9, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
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I am very happy for your imput, thank you. Yes, Quo Vadis Domine was written under the authority and supervision of the RCC, but Quo Vadis is Latin and not necessarily church lingo which means, "whither dost thou goest? or where are you going" or where do you go?"
I know a lot of things, but I don't know everything. I speak of what I know but if I'm guessing I just stay out of it. If I have an opinion then I say so. I don't try to bully people nor do I expect everyone to understand or even respect what I say. I am here having discussions with people because I believe most want intelligent discussion. At the end of teh day, no one may change anything they originally believed but at least knowledge was shared.
We are not called to save anyone but called to obedience, because I cannot save anyone. Only one can save and that is Yashua Ha-Mashiach (barack be He), ben of Yahweh Elohiym (barack be He) and our shar and malek.
Shalom Malekiym,
Andrew (CS).
thanks for your respond
I know that this word is taken from latin language-Because earlier RCC used on latin liturgy langauge, in spoken word and written word,
the best methode to deceive masses by not understandable latin langauge spoken to them,or written to them

Yashua Ha Massiah is hebrew word(similiar like RC misleadings of simple people and draw to yourselves and own doctrines)

I see all your post written in English,and terms about God and His Son written in hebrew?
WHAT PURPOSE IS DOING LIKE THIS?

are you looking for own glory?
or how wise you are?
or how big biblical authority you are?

you say we are born to obedience(so called tzadik im)
are you realy 100% born to be son of obedience(tzadik) is you mix simple message of God JEHOVA(english) and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST(english)

englsish written humble text or post, serve one purpose to express simple message without of small mark advertising own glories,own wisdom, and own superiority above others?

May GOD allow you to look at more deeper, and allow you to serve 100% as son born to obedience(tzadik)

Have good day,
anywaay your posts are excelent to read them and enjoy deep waters of biblical Gospel
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475495 Jan 9, 2013
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>1) Again, you're declaring how wrong I am for using the term "shalowm," but including nothing else. All declaration, but no evidence, or even a verse, to prove your beliefs. As far as I'm concerned, your prohibition is nothing other than a personal tradition until you can provide one shred of evidence that proves I'm in error. As of now, I've shared with you two examples of men that used the term toward other men.
2) How many times have you accused me of thinking I know everything, including "God's" and our anointed Savior's minds?
3) The priesthood knew Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Koine, the law, the psalms, and the prophecies, and they still misunderstood it, or they would have believed our anointed Savior.
4) I use the term "shalowm" for numerous reasons.
4-1) It's the greatest expression as a greeting, or otherwise, expressing my overall intention during discussions.
4-2) I pray that all either, become blessed by the shalowm of our 'Elohiym, or remain in the shalowm of our 'Elohiym.
4-3) I'll not judge anyone without evidence as to their walk in life outside Topix. Therefore, I'll not predetermine who does, or does not, deserve such a salutation, or otherwise. Whether atheist or believer, I still desire that all come to know the shalowm of our 'Elohiym, or remain in it. I see all, in this thread particularly, as believers, or potential believers.
4-4) I said "peace" instead of "shalowm" because you're, obviously, offended by my use of the term. Therefore, I'll not use it toward you.
Until next time...
Holla.
in my foreign mind I don't know word Holla

but I am reading your posts, with a lot of common biblical senses,
and between time .I am little bit worry that by some word or not proper using words belonging only to God alone,

you can fail not knowing this at all

I don't discuss anything long , or supply any evidence,
I post only my biblical opinion,and exclude myself from any sectarian debates,teachings, or discussion treated like GAME among faken preachers or sectarian pastors

From my deep biblical belief
GODS WORD IS NOT GAME, OR CHESS,OR GAMBLE BOARD,TO PLAY WITH,AND TO WIN OR LOSE

GODS PLAN AND HIS CHOSEN REMANAT IS EXCLUDED FROM SUCH EARTHLY WICKED GAMES,GAMBLE,OR SPIRITUAL CHESS PLAYERS WITH SECOND PARTIES

let me tell you
your prayers doesn't have any positive impact to influence GODS GRACE AND SHALOM GIVEN ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST-NOT THROUGH YOU AND YOUR PRAYERS

I see from your posts level of your understanding other languages or deep senses of hebrew or koine language,

I see you as smart guy,but still not mature enough to know Gods Word not belonging to you-and you treat this Word like it is YOUR INFALIABLE WORD ABLING BY YOU OPEN EYES PEOPLE LIKE G_O_D

WHAT I POST,I POST NACKED TRUTH,AND DOESN'T CARE IF I HURT ANYONE OF NOT
FOR ME PURE GODS WORD BELONG ONLY TO GOD, and we serve as children of obedience,to humbly rebuke,little advise send to others, and be far away from spiritual title and position awareded by this satanic world theological satanic spirit

have blessed day BLL

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