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#475021 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Hermeneutics AKA exigesis AKA apologetics is little more than putting the "Holy Spirit inspration" in a lab coat.
It is flawed, subject to bias and based on far too many a'priori assumptions.
Finally, even if it could be done beyond doubts (which it can't), all you would have is the authors thoughts. If those thoughts are in error then you will have an erroroneous account. Claiming that the author is always correct and/or truthful and/or complete and/or accurate is the main a'priori fallacy.
An analysis based on a fallacy will return a fallacy.
From the Encyclopaedia Britannica Concise:

Study of the general principles of biblical interpretation. Its primary purpose is to discover the truths and values of the Bible, which is seen as a receptacle of divine revelation. Four major types of hermeneutics have emerged: literal (asserting that the text is to be interpreted according to the “plain meaning”), moral (seeking to establish the principles from which ethical lessons may be drawn), allegorical (interpreting narratives as having a level of reference beyond the explicit), and anagogical or mystical (seeking to explain biblical events as they relate to the life to come).

Remember that when we look at writings from the past that we shouldn't assume or presume any future revelation. There are many things that we know now that they didn't know or anticipate then. This leads to incorrect application.

And since I ascribe to what the Bible says in that all scripture was written under the leading of the Holy Spirit, then all scripture is not the actual writers' "thoughts," but are from God Himself.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475022 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Based on most of the Scriptures, I would have to say that YHWY's major concern is for Israel with Gentiles being treated like the proverbial "redheaded stepchild".
It is also why I think Jesus preached conversion to Judaism for Gentiles despite 'Roman' doctrine to the contrary.
not only Jesus but also Paul preached Gospel of Christ and teaching them new law based on Mosaic Law

Jesus and apostle Paul never establish by his doctrines worldwide churches or their docrines doctrines

even Jesu said about secong fold of sheeps not belonging to the first (JEWISH FLOCK)to unite them with jewish flock first fold

without of predujice,read 1st 4 chapters of Romans letter written by Paul,and about Mosaic Law

in this case I agree with you mister.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475023 Jan 6, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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From the Encyclopaedia Britannica Concise:
Study of the general principles of biblical interpretation. Its .
And since I ascribe to what the Bible says in that all scripture was written under the leading of the Holy Spirit, then all scripture is not the actual writers' "thoughts," but are from God Himself.
also
if Scripture is from God Himself,
none of His children need any outside resources written by apologists,or other deceivers of this world wisdom?

Scripture is from God Himself and God Himself and personaly use HOLY SPIRIT GREAT TEACHER WHO LEAD HIS CHILDREN TO ABSOLUTE MATURITY

be careful Drew those outside sources
have good and Gods blessed day
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475024 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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They wouldn't let him join. He was too radical. LOL
not to radical
rather to stupid.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475025 Jan 6, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>They were churches in Ancient "what is now called" Turkey which is in Asia. I believe that each of these 7 churches mentioned in Revelation has their own personality and each church had a different warning or "praise report" from Jesus. I believe that these 7 churches represents all local church assemblies within the Church Age... and a local church (that is the assembly of people/the groupthink) will exhibit at least one or more of these personalities listed in the churches in Revelations... and Jesus gives a head's up of what He thinks of them through the message to those 7 churches. So we can spiritually gauge what are church is like just by looking at those seven churches and see which personality fits. Then we can look to see what Jesus said about that particular church and get an understanding of what He thinks of our own church and what He is going to do.
God already get out from those churches,infested by devil Spirit from the time of first 7 churches in Turkey and Asia

where is coruption of devil spirit,there is not coruptive Gods Spirit togethere with devil spirit.

fruits of this dead world christianity tree is obvious,and plain

good tree never will give a bad rotten stinking fruits
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475026 Jan 6, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.... Peace is as Peace does ~ that is what I have learned. I cannot be Peaceful on the inside, and in my thoughts, if I am reading or writing nasty words. I seek that which I seek - Humility :)
also preserve sweet PEACE inside of you,
and scroll those nasty posts,don't read them and cultivate LOVE AND PEACE TO SUCH STRANGE LOVEABLE POSTERS LIKE DR SHRINK

be happy today and whole week without of ceasing

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#475027 Jan 6, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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...And since I ascribe to what the Bible says in that all scripture was written under the leading of the Holy Spirit, then all scripture is not the actual writers' "thoughts," but are from God Himself.
And there is the a'priori fallacy.

Please prove that the Bible is from God.

BTW, "God told me so" or "The Bible says so" is NOT proof at all.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#475028 Jan 6, 2013
Dr too Stupid wrote:
not to radical
rather to stupid.
The voice of experience ...

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#475029 Jan 6, 2013
Dr Shrinky Brain wrote:
also
if Scripture is from God Himself,
none of His children need any outside resources written by apologists,or other deceivers of this world wisdom?
Scripture is from God Himself and God Himself and personaly use HOLY SPIRIT GREAT TEACHER WHO LEAD HIS CHILDREN TO ABSOLUTE MATURITY
be careful Drew those outside sources
have good and Gods blessed day
We surely don't need you around here spreading your garbage & deception.

Since: Oct 12

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#475030 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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And there is the a'priori fallacy.
Please prove that the Bible is from God.
BTW, "God told me so" or "The Bible says so" is NOT proof at all.
For He says I am with you always.
He walks with me and talks with me thru the Bible
and he tells me I am his own.
He holds the hands of those that love.
He come in prayers.
He come thru dreams and visions.
He come in thoughts.
He comes in auto polit thoughts.
He put word on the lips.
He moves in mysterious ways
Nothing is impossible with God.
Doubt not he is always there.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#475031 Jan 6, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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For He says I am with you always.
He walks with me and talks with me thru the Bible
and he tells me I am his own.
He holds the hands of those that love.
He come in prayers.
He come thru dreams and visions.
He come in thoughts.
He comes in auto polit thoughts.
He put word on the lips.
He moves in mysterious ways
Nothing is impossible with God.
Doubt not he is always there.
The same is said by Christians about Satan. Apparently this Satan fellow is more poweful than God.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475032 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The same is said by Christians about Satan. Apparently this Satan fellow is more poweful than God.
of course
because according to Gospel tempting Jesus by Satan,we can clearly see,that for satan was given all powers and all kingdoms of this earth,

to ask Jesus to bow His knees before satan,was to promise by satan give Jesus all power on this earth.

SATAN AND HIS CHILDREN POSESS TODAY ABSOLUTE POWER IN WORLDWIDE RELIGION AND POLITICAL GOVERMENTS

most stupid is christianity leaded by satan their churches and their souls to the hell

Since: Oct 12

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#475033 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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The same is said by Christians about Satan. Apparently this Satan fellow is more poweful than God.
Maybe in your mind and your type of thinking of Mr.Satan.
If he is so powerful humm found himself booted out of heaven.
If he is so powerful what happened when he tempted Jesus.
If he is so powerful where is the hidden secret of Jesus resurrection???? Happy hunting.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#475036 Jan 6, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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also
if Scripture is from God Himself,
none of His children need any outside resources written by apologists,or other deceivers of this world wisdom?
Scripture is from God Himself and God Himself and personaly use HOLY SPIRIT GREAT TEACHER WHO LEAD HIS CHILDREN TO ABSOLUTE MATURITY
be careful Drew those outside sources
have good and Gods blessed day
Well said Shrink, and all so true.
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475037 Jan 6, 2013
hick-up wrote:
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We surely don't need you around here spreading your garbage & deception.
wrrrrrrrr flupppppp
who is"we" you dumbass atheistic pig
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475038 Jan 6, 2013
hick-up wrote:
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The voice of experience ...
you pig'have none of those categories
"radical or stupid"
walfare godless atheistic idiot is below any categories of rat feces in the basement, your word"we" is you and stinking dumpster maggots seating inside of your dirty pants
Pfuj
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475040 Jan 6, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Well said Shrink, and all so true.
L100
I never count on outside world theological sources twisting basic spiritual value of Gods Word

mostly true believers will agree with me,

rest of them is just lost poor worth pitty and mercy to live on this ground as unsaved human insects

God bless L100

I am able even to proff that Jesus skills as CARPENTER of ancient time,is not a same like today this skill only in wood.

While there does remains a possibility that Jesus was a woodworker, we must be cognizant of the fact that the words used to describe HIM DO HAVE VERY LARGE A BROADER MEANING THAN ANY ONE PARTICULAR VOCATION.

ancient koine word Carpenter was ALSO MASONRY,CRAFTSMAN, BUILDER IN STONE, ARCHITECT,SCHOLAR

rather we can fit word CArpenter in Jesus Adult life as OT GODS CHOSEN SCHOLAR
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#475041 Jan 6, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Shrink,are you a bi-polar drug addict/alcoholic?
You f..... godless troll
call yourselves to be my 'friend'
You suppose to know,if not ?
smell my mexican beans chilly loud watery farts together with your atheistic walfare foodstamps begger idiot HU
prrrrrrt pssssssss clap clap clap

BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA

Since: Sep 10

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#475042 Jan 6, 2013
Then there is the question of Jesus as a Nazarene,
Was He from Nazareth,as we have been told all our christian decived lives,
or just what is a NAZARENE ANYWAY?

WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD"NAZARENE" MEANS TRULY

IT MAY NOT MEAN"OF NAZARETH" SINCE THIS SMALL TOWN OF NAZARETH DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE GEEN FLOURISHING CIRCA 1 BC

WHEN HE IS THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN BORN.

WHY DO SOME PEOPLE SAY JESUS IS FROM NAZARETH?
WHAT HE HAS REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHN BAPTIST? TO APOLONIA OR TYANA?

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#475044 Jan 6, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
Based on most of the Scriptures, I would have to say that YHWY's major concern is for Israel with Gentiles being treated like the proverbial "redheaded stepchild".
Well, I don't know about all that.

Other than that of the elect, the middle wall of partition has been utterly demolished, making the rest of Israel and the Gentiles one and the same, as intended. Although a distinction is made in the writings of the "Old Covenant" texts, the terms "nation(s)" and "Gentile(s)" are, actually, one and the same, even sharing the definition. That term, singularly, is "goy," while the plural is "gowyim." So, we can easily translate Genesis 17:5 to say, "Neither shall your name any more be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for a father of many [gentiles] have I made you." Likewise can Exodus 19:6 be translated to say, "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy [gentile]. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel."
G_O_D wrote:
It is also why I think Jesus preached conversion to Judaism for Gentiles despite 'Roman' doctrine to the contrary.
Our anointed Savior did no such thing.

Our anointed Savior sought to reform the "religion" of Israel. Judaism was invented by the priesthood while the southern kingdom of Israel became subject to Babylon. For many years during that time, the written "religion" had been lost. And because of that, the priesthood adopted many of the beliefs and practices of the Babylonian mystics and astrologers.

Now, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Roman doctrine." I've asked, before, if you wanted to examine Paul's letters, to determine if he did, actually, teach contrary to our anointed Savior, but you never answered me regarding that. In that, I'll say it again. Paul taught nothing contrary to our anointed Savior. People, understandably, misunderstand Paul's letters, but only because they don't realize that the one thing we don't read is his initial teachings.

Until next time, my friend.

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