Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#474281 Jan 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for taking my post in the spirit in which it was intended brother. And just know I understand. It can be easy to get caught up in things. I know you respect women and what they can bring to teaching and witnessing.(T) PEACE
Well the bible does permit the older and more experienced women IN the Lord to teach the younger women.

Peace.

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#474282 Jan 2, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
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Lawest....Grace is not behind the pulpit or preaching to anyone....Neither are you. All posters here give their opinions and their interpretations of scripture....She has as much right to give her opinion as You or Skom or Ra or anyone else....Its called Freedom of speech
She may not be behind the pulpit but she is still trying to convey God's Word ( and erroneously so ) which is still wrong regardless, and she is still demeaning those as faithless in Christ for not agreeing with her, which is very untrue and technically she is lying for accusing me and others for not having any faith in the Lord's sacrifice, freedom of speech has nothing to do with it.

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#474283 Jan 2, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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I think maybe she is just misunderstood. So if you would, lighten up a little. And I've learned from past experiences to never refer to a lady, woman, female as "that WOMAN." That is very disrespectful and condescending.
And I think that you and Epi are blowing that out of proportion, but believe what you like.

“Romans 8:1.”

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#474284 Jan 2, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Hi Drew-
Happy new Year my friend..
In my heart of hearts- I believe- all souls will be redeemed.
When the last trumpet sounds..
I believe in Christ and I will forever Praise His Name..
Yet- I will not ever sit back and support the hypocrisy of
Lawlest and his church and his friends- in their oppresive beleifs
on
human kind..
Any church that teaches the treatment of women in the way Lawest has shown in here time and time again is nothing but a church that is being guided by satan. And like you I will not sit back, nor support, nor condone that. It needs to be exposed like it is being exposed in here tonight.

To me (and I'm sure I'm not alone) what Lawest is doing is far worse than any non-believer that comes in here bashing Christianity. Because Lawest is doing what he is doing (which is nothing but satan's work) while claiming it's God's work.

It's about the most sickening thing I've seen done in here. Thankfully it's being exposed for all to see and he's being called out for it like he should be.

God bless you for taking the stand that you have Le_le!!!

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#474285 Jan 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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Hi Le_le.
I doubt you'll get a straight answer from him. Keep in mind (if you recall) he racked Judy over the coals about that very subject in his holier than thou self righteous way judging her as living in sin.
Like so many other posters you've got him pegged to a "T" Le_le.
Have a great night. God bless.
Yes we did--
I already know his answer..

Lawlest has already damned someone's soul - right here on this thread-
for leaving an abusive marriage and then getting married to another.

Not sure how many others see his stupidity for jesus..
Just like so many others-- so hard to tell..

Happy to see you tonight..
:)

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#474286 Jan 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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Hi Le_le.
I doubt you'll get a straight answer from him. Keep in mind (if you recall) he racked Judy over the coals about that very subject in his holier than thou self righteous way judging her as living in sin.
Like so many other posters you've got him pegged to a "T" Le_le.
Have a great night. God bless.
Sure they do, because they all agree with YOU and believe as you do.

“Romans 8:1.”

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#474287 Jan 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> And I think that you and Epi are blowing that out of proportion, but believe what you like.
Yeah everyone is blowing it out of proportion but you right Lawest?

Open your eyes. Do you really think that everyone is wrong and your are right?

Wake up Lawest, all you're doing is digging the hole you made for yourself deeper and deeper. Everyone in here is trying to get you to see just how wrong you are.

Is your ego so over blown and fragile that you can't see that you are WRONG!!!

GET OVER YOURSELF. YOU'RE IN THE WRONG. MAN UP, APPOLIGIZE, AND ADMIT IT!!!

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#474288 Jan 2, 2013
Drew H wrote:
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Point ^^.
Counter point: http://www.bethinking.org/bible-jesus/advance...
I don't hold Erhaman as a perfect by any means. IMHO he missed a lot and is far too "Christian" for my tastes.

I was merely ponting out the current mainstream scholarly stance on the matter.

Willopst soon my own short analysis of the Gospel of Thomas and why I believe it is a very historically significant text, while theologically it is immaterial.

“Romans 8:1.”

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#474289 Jan 2, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Yes we did--
I already know his answer..
Lawlest has already damned someone's soul - right here on this thread-
for leaving an abusive marriage and then getting married to another.
Not sure how many others see his stupidity for jesus..
Just like so many others-- so hard to tell..
Happy to see you tonight..
:)
Good to see you too Le_le.

I guess he thought enough time had passed and that people would have forgotten what he said and did to Judy. So he figured it was safe for him to go on another one of his self righteous judgemental attacks on another women. He's like the proverbial leopard. His spots will never change.

Can you imagine what it would be like to be a fly on the wall at his church and witness the way women are treated and thought of there.

The thought of it along with what he's said in here tonight (and in the past) really turns my stomach.

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#474290 Jan 2, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
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It was....Go Clemson Tigers!!!
I am loving the 60 degree weather in Early January
How is Kim doing? Did she go for surgery yet?
God Bless Friend!!
It's been postponed. She hasn't had any discomfort lately.

It's always good to hear from you.

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#474291 Jan 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Correct Drew, but again..........it is obvious by what she teaches that she has definitely started HERSELF, and yes again it is true that as Christians we may still have some minor different beliefs from one another as no one is totally 100% in sync with one another but the things that she has tried to teach here are SO off based from the Word and out of harmony with the scriptures that thete is just no way to Biblically justify them.
Excuse me...I started The Gospel of GRACE?? Thank you so much for that compliment but This teaching started way back from the leaders of the early church.Its called, "Confident in Christ." It is a excellent teaching on subjects on: Saving Faith, Assurance, Eternal Security, and Perseverance, with also Appendices on Lordship Salvation, Baptism and Salvation, Repentance and Salvation, and Approach to Understanding God's Word. Once you begin to understand where you can stand, holy and blameless in the presence of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You will find that those who condemns you don't have a clue about the true gospel of Jesus Christ and, therefore will be able to dismiss them like rubbish, and their words will not harm you, for you know the truth and it has set you free. But those who stand
condemned are not free, they condemn each other as well for they are no different than the wicked.

Only a small segment of Christendom is any era of church history has believed in the gospel of grace. Of course, this should be no surprise to those familiar with the teachings of Jesus. He said, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it" (Matthew 7:13-14). The narrow way goes against the flow. In order to believe the gospel, you must believe something that the vast majority of people not only do not believe, but consider foolishness (1 Cor. 1:18).

“Romans 8:1.”

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#474292 Jan 2, 2013
Hey Epi and Drew. Are you watching the Sugar Bowl?

Louisville is upsetting Florida, leading 30-10 in the 4th quarter. Florida is ranked 3rd in the country and Louisville is ranked 21st.

One thing I want to know. Maybe you don't know the answer but perhaps someone else will. Like maybe Lawest.

I noticed many women are in the stands watching the game. Who allowed women in to watch that game?
_______

***Snicker, I couldn't resist.***

{:>)

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#474293 Jan 2, 2013
An Unpleasant Truth.....we can get on Lawest but as Christians there are some very tough verses to reconcile. Paul says in Ecc 7:26-29 that more bitter than death is a woman whose heart is snares and nets and he that pleases God will escape her. And that he has found one just man in a 1000 in his travels but among 1000 has never found a just woman. He goes on to say that is why it is men who walk upright in the Lord. In 1Timothy 2:14-15 he says it was not Adam who was deceived but eve who deceived him and became a sinner but that women can still be saved thru child-rearing and he does not permit a woman to teach. I could get into my own opinion of God-inspired and autonomy and sign of the times and what technically is scripture and how we apply it to today but we all have to figure this kind of stuff out for ourselves. Im not going to tie this into the teachings of Christ and the current once-saved discussion either. But before we get too carried away there are some tough things to argue biblically..cont

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#474294 Jan 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I don't hold Erhaman as a perfect by any means. IMHO he missed a lot and is far too "Christian" for my tastes.
I was merely ponting out the current mainstream scholarly stance on the matter.
Willopst soon my own short analysis of the Gospel of Thomas and why I believe it is a very historically significant text, while theologically it is immaterial.
I concur. I've read some of the gnostics as well.

Many go with the mainstream way of thinking without doing much objective digging into the evidence as it is presented from different perspectives.

My understanding of the Gospel of Thomas is that it is a collection or compilation of some of Jesus' sayings, some of which are in the canonical Gospel accounts. As far as who wrote it or when it was written, no one truly knows, although there has been a lot of speculation.

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#474295 Jan 2, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes we did--
I already know his answer..
Lawlest has already damned someone's soul - right here on this thread-
for leaving an abusive marriage and then getting married to another.
Not sure how many others see his stupidity for jesus..
Just like so many others-- so hard to tell..
Happy to see you tonight..
:)
Hey there lying lu lu, I have never "damned anyone's soul" on this thread or tried to, I remember the person that you are referring to responded to something that I said to another poster, and when she asked me about it It was THEN that I opened the scriptures to her and posted a link to our churches website that spoke on the subject, and she did become somewhat upset saying and I quote 'I would be a sinner in your church' unquote..........she said that of herself on her own, I didn't make the accusation.

If you are going to bring up things pass then be truthful about it, one thing the Lord hates is a lying tongue, and you and your pen pal Red Apples have that in spades.

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#474296 Jan 2, 2013
cont...I feel I am given the freedom under God and country to love in the manner that is true to my heart and as a man being true to his heart I believe in equality. And from a societal aspect it is an easy argument. But biblically I have to admit it is difficult to state someone is wrong if they feel how they do. This is not an easy thing for me to say and I hope those that oppose the Bible will have the courtesy not to be opportunistic as we try to discuss a tough subject in the pursuit of love and truth and what we are called to do today. I think we can love how we choose and I have the right to respect a woman as equal in all things even spiritual. But Paul has written some verses very reminicent of the times. I guess we each must decide what we think about that. (T) PEACE

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#474297 Jan 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
Hey Epi and Drew. Are you watching the Sugar Bowl?
Louisville is upsetting Florida, leading 30-10 in the 4th quarter. Florida is ranked 3rd in the country and Louisville is ranked 21st.
One thing I want to know. Maybe you don't know the answer but perhaps someone else will. Like maybe Lawest.
I noticed many women are in the stands watching the game. Who allowed women in to watch that game?
_______
***Snicker, I couldn't resist.***
{:>)
I'm sure you couldn't, because you are full of the devil.

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#474298 Jan 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Correct Drew, but again..........it is obvious by what she teaches that she has definitely started HERSELF, and yes again it is true that as Christians we may still have some minor different beliefs from one another as no one is totally 100% in sync with one another but the things that she has tried to teach here are SO off based from the Word and out of harmony with the scriptures that thete is just no way to Biblically justify them.
How OLD is The Gospel of Grace???

Amazing Grace" is a Christian hymn with words written by the English poet and clergyman John Newton (1725–1807), published in 1779. Containing a message that forgiveness and redemption are possible regardless of sins committed and that the soul can be delivered from despair through the mercy of God, "Amazing Grace" is one of the most recognizable songs in the English-speaking world.

Newton wrote the words from personal experience. He grew up without any particular religious conviction, but his life's path was formed by a variety of twists and coincidences that were often put into motion by his recalcitrant insubordination. He was pressed into the Royal Navy, and after leaving the service became involved in the Atlantic slave trade. In 1748, a violent storm battered his vessel so severely that he called out to God for mercy, a moment that marked his spiritual conversion. However, he continued his slave trading career until 1754 or 1755, when he ended his seafaring altogether and began studying Christian theology.

I bet you sing that song in your church without the slighest notion of its meaning..SAD..Paul started this Gospel Of Grace that was given to him by God/Jesus Himself. Maybe you should have a women preaching in your church. You are swinging from your preachers tailcoat and hanging on to a man-made doctrine. How long are you going to take his word over Gods? That was meant to be mean..If I didnt care, I wouldnt stay here and take your abuse. I will stay on the narrow path regardless though. Peace and GRACE to you religious man

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#474299 Jan 2, 2013
Le_le wrote:
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Hi Drew-
Happy new Year my friend..
In my heart of hearts- I believe- all souls will be redeemed.
When the last trumpet sounds..
I believe in Christ and I will forever Praise His Name..
Yet- I will not ever sit back and support the hypocrisy of
Lawlest and his church and his friends- in their oppresive beleifs
on
human kind..
Happy New Year to you too, Le le. I was just thinking about you tonight. And here you are.

I know you hold strong to your beliefs, and in my heart of hearts I hope you are correct. Who knows what God's whole plan is? And I believe that all who claim the name of Christ act in ways that bring glory to God.

Good to see you, as always.

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#474300 Jan 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> And I think that you and Epi are blowing that out of proportion, but believe what you like.
I think in just afew words you made yourself real clear of your opinion of women in general.Any female with good good sense needs to pick up skirts and leave fellows like you alone.I wish you been born a female.Mr high handed better then thou.May God forgive you.
With your attuide you do not deserve a womans love.Stay away from me.

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