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#474168 Jan 2, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Corinth was a melting pot of the various socio-economic groups in the Roman Empire and this city was as racially divided as any of in this empire if not more.People receiving Christ don't always allow Him to raise above their social or racial prejudices.This was especially true in Corinth and became such a problem to Paul that he spent more time teaching on the Unity of Christians than in any of his other writtings.Here he beseeches the brethren invoking the Name of Jesus their newly found Lord to agree to speak the same thing and eliminate division among them to use their faith to come into such unity that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind.Isn't this our great need today.
Well I made four post of Paul and is no reason to take it any futher this is based upon what I am reading in other post.I have choosen to look for the good in Paul and all that he done for mankind.Lastly will say could one of us done his walk he made.
I think not,it is just way too easy to judge Gods work in another.

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#474169 Jan 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I didn't add a thing
As usual in these types of conversations you ignored everything I asked and ignored all the scripture
If God wants all men to be saved and nothing we do matters on who he will save despite hundreds of verses to support that it does matter, that we must repent, have faith, obey, then please explain why all men are not saved?
Is God not capable of saving everyone even though he wants all to be saved? Please answer the question
Thank you
First off your foundation cornerstone is totally false, God does not want all men to be saved. He wants all His elect to be saved.He says in another way, that He is not willing that any should perish but that all would come to repentance. He's speaking of His chosen [ elect ]. Christ did not pray for the world, but for those whom the Father gave Him, and that He would not lose one of them, but save all His people [ sheep ].

God is certainly capable of saving the world, but He made vessels of mercy as well as vessels of wrath. All deserve death because we are all guilty and should receive the penalty, but God had chosen some to have mercy upon and paid for their sins by the sacrifice of His own life. If Christ died for all men without distinction, then all men would be saved. But He didn't.

Finally, man's will or desire, has absolutely NO bearing on whether or not God will save him. The choice is GOD'S not man's.

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#474170 Jan 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Of course it is up to God who will be saved. And he tells us who he will save and why
Why would God call those he had no intention of saving?
You're right. He did tell us who would be saved and why,
All that the Father gives to Me SHALL come to me... John 6:37
Many are called BUT few are chosen [Those that were given to Christ ]Those that are called or invited won't come, because no man seeks God [Romans 3:11 ], therefore only the chosen are left to save. Simple isn't it?
Hard to swallow that God will have mercy on whom He chooses and leaves the rest to live out their time and in the end perish ?
A test of man's pride.
Learn the basics first, no more confusing the issues.

Since: Sep 12

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#474171 Jan 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Do you have some type of learning disability? How many times does it have to be said man can't save himself? And when we do the good works Christ prepared for us in advance to do it is because we are allowing him to work through us. Yet you feel you don't have to do those works even though Paul tells you that because you don't originally believe what Jesus taught applies to you
YOU are the one who believes the teachings of Jesus Christ do not apply to us. And you are claiming those that believe his teachings and believe him that they have to be obedient, which they do when they allow him to work through them, and he says do that and He promises He will save us is actually man thinking he can work his way to salvation?
YOU cant seem to take the FOCUS off YOURSELF and WHAT YOU are doing all the time. You Keep harping on obeying the teachings of Jesus, Yet, you dont even understand WHAT kind of obedience GOD was refering to. Yes, You believe IN Jesus and His teaching, but DO you BELIEVE WHAT He accomplished for YOU? The obedience from the HEART Skom..Do you understand WHAT that is? You dont seem to grasp nor understand WHAT His death AND burial AND ressurection was all about. Read up on how HE Justified YOU...How HE made YOU righteous in the eyes of God AND HOW He is Sanctifying YOU...Well He did BUT YOU have to RECEIVE those gifts THROUGH Obedience OF FAITH..YOU ..Then we can talk more. I lived the Christian Life that you are preaching and that kind of belief may seem right to a mere human..Gods thoughts and ways are NOT our thoughts OR ways. If it means that we had to forsake all the religious teaching that we have been taught from the pulpit all our lives to learn the TRUTH then thats what we should do..If you dont see that the bible seems to be a bit contradictive, you are confused..God doesnt contradict His own words, so why is there a sudden change in the scriptures? Looking into those things will open your eyes and allow you to come to the same conclusion that most Christians who understand Grace..has finally found...JESUS PAID IT ALL FOR US..Jesus + nothing = EVERYTHING..Isnt Jesus enough for you?

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#474172 Jan 2, 2013
reggieboy2013 wrote:
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First off your foundation cornerstone is totally false, God does not want all men to be saved. He wants all His elect to be saved.He says in another way, that He is not willing that any should perish but that all would come to repentance. He's speaking of His chosen [ elect ]. Christ did not pray for the world, but for those whom the Father gave Him, and that He would not lose one of them, but save all His people [ sheep ].
God is certainly capable of saving the world, but He made vessels of mercy as well as vessels of wrath. All deserve death because we are all guilty and should receive the penalty, but God had chosen some to have mercy upon and paid for their sins by the sacrifice of His own life. If Christ died for all men without distinction, then all men would be saved. But He didn't.
Finally, man's will or desire, has absolutely NO bearing on whether or not God will save him. The choice is GOD'S not man's.
So some He means to save while the rest are fodder for the wolves ...I sure am glad I don't follow that God.

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#474173 Jan 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Which ones would that be ?
the Gospel Paul preached is the Holy scriptures. Christ by His spirit opened up the scriptures to Paul, which really was the old testament scriptures, plus direct revelation from God , which God is no longer doing once the bible was completed.

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#474174 Jan 2, 2013
sanctify

late 14c., seintefie "to consecrate," from O.Fr. saintifier (12c.), "to make holy," from sanctus "holy" (see saint)+ root of facere "to make" (see factitious). Form altered to conform with Latin. Meaning "to render holy"


sanc·ti·fy/&#712;sæ&#3 31;k&#8201;t&#601; &#716;fa&#618;/ Show Spelled [sangk-tuh-fahy] Show IPA
verb (used with object), sanc·ti·fied, sanc·ti·fy·ing.
1. to make holy; set apart as sacred; consecrate.

Hebrews 2:11..For both HE (Jesus) that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified ( Believers)are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Hebrews 10:10..By this Will( Gods Will) we have been "Sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ" ONCE for ALL.

Hebrews 9:14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!

Its JESUS that does the cleansing..Its Jesus that SANCTIFIES US..

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#474175 Jan 2, 2013
hick-up wrote:
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So some He means to save while the rest are fodder for the wolves ...I sure am glad I don't follow that God.
The truth is not always pretty. People like everything pretty and nice, like their God. They want a God who agrees with their thoughts, and overlooks their rebellion against His law, because they are nice people- He just loves them all, just the way they are, right?

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#474176 Jan 2, 2013
Justification_(theology)

www.reference.com/browse/Justification_%28the...

In Christian theology, justification is God's act of declaring or making a sinner righteous before God. Justification, from the Greek &#948;&#953;&#954; &#945;&#953;&#972; &#969; (dikaio&#333;), to declare/make.

Romans 5:1..Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

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#474178 Jan 2, 2013
Knowing and believing that all of our sins (past, present, and future) have been completely forgiven through the blood of the Lamb is the doorway through which every child of God must walk before he can begin to truly understand the amazing grace of God. Trying to teach a Christian that he has a new identity in Christ, that the Holy Spirit now actually lives in him, and that his Heavenly Father loves and accepts him unconditionally will make little sense without him first believing that the sin issue between himself and God is over.

Perhaps no other aspect of our salvation in Christ has been so confusing, paralyzing, and even divisive within the body of Christ as the forgiveness of our sins. How tragic that one of the most glorious and foundational truths of the gospel has deteriorated into a perplexing doctrine that many Christians would prefer to argue was an incomplete work of our Savior rather than one that is actually "finished" (John 19:30).

http://www.forgivenforever.org/forgiven_forev...

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#474180 Jan 2, 2013
Why the confusion on something so elementary and crucial to our salvation? Your enemy, the father of lies, does not want you to know and believe that you have been forgiven, once-and-for-all. Since he cannot alter your eternal destiny if you are in Christ, then he will do all he can to deceive you into thinking that your behavior is to be the primary focus of your life.

Some Christians seem to think that the key to experiencing the "abundant life" that Jesus promised is to "keep short accounts with God." Let’s wake-up, Church! The last thing that Satan wants is for you experience the freedom you now have in Christ (Gal. 5:1) through setting "your mind on the things above" where "your life is hidden with Christ in God" (Col. 3:2-3).

You see, the accuser of the brethren (Rev. 12:10) knows that if you believe the truth that your sins have actually been "removed" by God, "as far as the east is from the west" (Psalm 103:12), you will begin to shift your attention off of yourself and onto your blessed Redeemer! The result? The supernatural, miraculous life of Christ will be expressed through you, bringing glory to God and producing the righteous behavior your new heart longs to display.

Many teachers today tell their listeners that the sinner can come to God just as they are and receive forgiveness of sins (salvation is much more than just getting forgiven). But just as quickly as the sinner responds to Christ by faith and is saved, they are told to make sure they keep all their sins confessed so they will stay forgiven! Huh?

http://www.forgivenforever.org/forgiven_forev...

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#474181 Jan 2, 2013
If He has saved you, then "by His doing you are in Christ Jesus" (1 Cor. 1:30). Why is that important to know? Because, "in Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses" (Eph. 1:7). Is our having forgiveness based upon our confessing, asking, pleading with God? No, we have forgiveness (now and forever!) "according to the riches of His grace" (Eph. 1:7). His grace really is amazing!

But didn’t Jesus teach that we would only be forgiven if we made sure we forgave others (Matt. 6:14-15)? He sure did. At the perfect time in all of history, with the old covenant still in effect, "God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law" (Gal. 4:4-5). How was God going to redeem those who were under the Law? By coming down to earth Himself to show man and teach man that "by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight" (Rom. 3:20). Jesus’ teachings took the Law to a whole new level…impossibly unachievable! He took the Law past the realm of external performance to the realm of the heart to reveal the wickedness and hopelessness of all men. Why? So that they would come to Him for life (John 6:33; 8:24; 14:6)! Do you ever struggle with unforgiveness toward others? Then just like the Pharisees of Jesus’ day, friend, you need the Savior!

Through His once-and-for-all sacrifice on the Cross almost 2,000 years ago, we have been forgiven (Col. 3:13). Unlike the old covenant sacrifices, Jesus’ blood did not atone or cover our sins…He took them away (John 1:29; Heb. 9:26). There will not be a future payment (Heb. 10:12). He will not, and does not, get up on the Cross again and again to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world (Heb. 10:10, 18; 1 John 2:2). When He said, "It is finished," He meant it!
http://www.forgivenforever.org/forgiven_forev...

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#474182 Jan 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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Wow, you say Drew has a "somewhat knowledge of Christ"?
Now that's hilarious!!!
Newsflash Lawest. If you ask all the Christians that post in here they will tell you that Drew has a knowledge of Christ that you don't even come close to.
Your overblown ego has taken control of you Lawest!!!
Yes Apples that IS hilarious, but for a very different, when you say " all the christians that post in here"..........that's just further confirmation that I am on the correct side of Christ, think you much.

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#474185 Jan 2, 2013
Hebrews 8:12

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember NO MORE.

Thats WHAT Jesus did for Us..Thats OUR LORD..All the Praise, Glory and Honor goes to HIM..

Knowing ALL this should not make a person say..ooohhh boy..now I can do whatever I want?? That makes NO sense.If somebody thinks that way, they need Jesus

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#474186 Jan 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Yes Apples that IS hilarious, but for a very different, when you say " all the christians that post in here"..........that's just further confirmation that I am on the correct side of Christ, think you much.
Correct side of Christ should be on this side of the cross..

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#474187 Jan 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Nope. It is because you can't answer a single real question.
All most of you do is babble doctrine that you don't even understand and then tell anyone who disagrees or questions it that they are evil POS.
GFY
And you are talking to one of the PRIME examples on that one.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

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#474189 Jan 2, 2013
reggieboy2013 wrote:
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The truth is not always pretty. People like everything pretty and nice, like their God. They want a God who agrees with their thoughts, and overlooks their rebellion against His law, because they are nice people- He just loves them all, just the way they are, right?
So then the christian god is not the all loving, compassionate, forgiving God that most christian religions teach..........

Just like I said a few days ago when everyone got on me for trashing christianity and their beliefs he is ruthless, quick to anger, insecure and mean and I'll ad unfair..........

I'm sure glad he isnt the only God there is, as he states he doesn't want any of the other Gods out there put before him..........

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#474190 Jan 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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you are right
but this HU atheistic and blasphemer of our Lord,is seating here 2 years like nit invited paqrasite and insult all honest true believers,
anyway
he doesn't escape hell,
drawed foodstamps and lies to SS make him bum,kazy,abuser of our tax money and menace of this Society brining shame to the noble humble american christians,and all those saints on this topic(some call this place as internet church,only thres is not true spiritual 100% teacher on this topic.
most credit to be humble teacher is BLL and L100.GW and Quin(only Quin worship to many pagan idols and pagan days)
skombolis too is smart,only many times he contradict basic passage of Bible,but some day Gods Spirit squiz his brain like lemon juice to the green tee and Gods Spirit will correct Skombolis properly
I believe at this
busybody ...gossip

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

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#474191 Jan 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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RA narrow chicken brain can overestimate DREW knowledge,
Drew is humble believer like you,and humble believers doesn't have to be glorifies by chicken brains and haters like old dieying crip RA
L100
just be free and happy,and not pay attention this RA deceiver old dieying child of devil,praying to devil for extension of his one more day on this earth
true believers and elected children everyday pray for their own body death to be with their beloved Father forever
Psalm 116;15.and gal 2;20 apply daily to the true children remnant very soon be depatred to the TRUE PURE COUNTRY BELONGING TO THEM ONLY.
Not to such carnal haters and mockers name RA and some few around
Heavenly country doesn't have any place for them
God bless you L100
busybody, gossip

Since: Dec 12

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#474192 Jan 2, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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So then the christian god is not the all loving, compassionate, forgiving God that most christian religions teach..........
Just like I said a few days ago when everyone got on me for trashing christianity and their beliefs he is ruthless, quick to anger, insecure and mean and I'll ad unfair..........
I'm sure glad he isnt the only God there is, as he states he doesn't want any of the other Gods out there put before him..........
There is no other God but Him. All others that men worship are of the own imaginations. And btw you are wrong about His nature, He is a just God and merciful. We are the villians and evil doers.

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