“I.Spirit.Son.God”

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#473579 Dec 31, 2012
Dr Shrink wrote:
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also according to 2 Tim 3;16
whole Scripture are Gods spoken Words through human saints to whole mankind
Psalm 90;4 ....
FOR A THOUSAND YEARS IN THY SIGHT ARE BUT AS YEASTERDAY WHEN IT IS OAST,AND AS WATCH(3 HOURS) IN THE NIGHT
2PETER 3;8
is complete answer
BUT BELOVED BE NOT IGNORANT OF THIS ONE THING,THAT ONE DAY IS WITH THE LORD AS A THOUSAND YEARS,AND THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY
those words are Gods Words
L100 wrote right
have nice night trifecta
So Jesus tell the thief today the thief will be with Jesus. if that today mean a thousand yrs, you saying Jesus resurrect the thief a thousand yrs later? so then only the thief Jesus raise after a thousand yrs a no one else?

because Jesus was clear to the thief. Jesus say today, that mean one day. so then if one day mean a thousand yrs so the thief is the only person jesus resurrect a thousand yrs later? that no make any sense.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

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#473580 Dec 31, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
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A lot of this made sense but I cut down to the portion I wanted to address specifically. Although one quick note with the thief when he said "I tell you today you will be with me in paradise" there is no punctuation such as a comma in the original translation so could he not mean that he is telling him that on that day he had been saved but the time he will be with him in paradise is still future tense and referring to the second coming?
Where is the spirit in your opinion when the body sleeps?
A few verses that I think touch on this are the following:
John 5
28“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned
Revelation 20:4-6
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
1 Corinthians 15
16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.
Spirit with God or in hell. spirit can't sleep. No where in bible it say spirit sleep.

I understand what u say with the comma; but that leave same question I ask shrink, so is only the thief jesus resurrect thousand yrs later? cause jesus very specific,[today] that one day. Jesus was never wishy washy with the thief. Jesus clearly tell the thief today.

what happening in revelation have to with body resurrection, not no spirit.

now let me ask you and shrink question. when Jesus died on cross, clearly him spirit never die cause bible say jesus was in other places while his body on cross.

so then if Jesus is the resurrection of believers, if Jesus spirit never die when he was on cross, what make u think your spirit or the thief spirit or any other person spirit will go sleep or die somewhere?

in numbers when high priest aaron died bible say aaron was gathered to his people when he died. so right away aaron was gathered to other people in paradise but he still died. what sense gathered to his people mean if he dead? that mean gathered to his people mean something else. it mean same time aaron died spirit went to God with rest of people in paradise.

and i still no get no answer for what Jesus say yet.

that why so much christian sad unhappy and living evil ways. they no know bible. that why some christian worldly people attract them from faith because they lack knowledge of bible.

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#473581 Dec 31, 2012
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>don't worry mister Bo

just wipe your face, make loud fart,and go to the bar.

Paul letters doesn't stop you from ;buzz,drugs,idiocy, and bul...all day long on internet,
just fart and go sleep you babla mabla blah blah blah bluh
Happy New Year Doc!!!

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#473582 Dec 31, 2012
Red Apples wrote:
<quoted text>Good morning Drew, hope your day is going well.

You hit the nail on the head when you said to duane quote "It is hard to have a meaningful conversation with someone who finds it hard to be truthful. You put your spin on everything you write. Truly and sadly, I find it hard to afford you any credibility."

What I find truly amazing is that he thinks that people don't see just how dishonest he is. Just look at the new posters that come in here and try to engage him in conversation. In short order they quickly discover just how dishonest he is and call him on it. And per his usual pattern he tries to deny it and attacks anyone that points it out. He's completely blind to the dishonesty he constantly spews out in here that everyone sees but him. That's why the best thing to do is just ignore him and hope he goes to another thread to troll his lies.

I hope you have a very Happy New Year and that 2013 is full of God's blessings for you and yours.
Happy New Year Apples!!!! May God Bless you and yours for years to come <3

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

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#473583 Dec 31, 2012
Red Apples wrote:
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Good evening Drew. Hope your Sonday is going well.
I wouldn't count on duane coming up with a quote of Paul saying anything close to what duane claims he did. What's likely to happen is duane avoiding answering to yet another lie he got caught telling. Or he'll dance around and try to change the subject in an attempt to distance himself from being caught in another lie. Or he'll simply go on that attack trying to shift the focus on someone else like he usually does when he gets caught lying.
In his lying state of mind he really thinks that people don't see it when he tells his lies and gets caught doing it. Of course as we all know that's what trolls do.
Have a great evening. God bless.
I know, RA. He has revealed himself to be very transparent, yet he thinks that no one can see right through him. He is only fooling himself. He is a piece of work, I tell you. It seems he thinks he has more knowledge than the cumulative total of all the other posters here.

Do you believe he actually thinks that the gospel given to Paul on the road to Damascus by Jesus was either Matthew, Mark, Luke or John when that idea is totally preposterous?

Well you can certainly see why my posts to him are limited. It is hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone who only sees things their way without even entertaining the thought that they could be wrong and someone else could be right.

Happy New Year to you and I hope this coming year will be a good one for you. We can only take each day as it comes, though. We're not certain of what tomorrow will bring, so I'm focusing on making each day the best it can be, no matter the circumstances, good or bad..
Chris Clearwater

Largo, FL

#473584 Dec 31, 2012
Drew H wrote:
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Or going to strip clubs and drinking like you said you were going to do?
There is nothing inherently wrong with sports, however if one becomes obsessed with sports or any earthly activity for the wrong reasons, then yes.
God's love to you. This is true. Before my pastor said yes to the Lord he was a professional football (soccer) player in Ireland. His coach told him he would be a fool to give it up as he had it made. Thankful he said yes to God and part of his witness is how sports had become a false god to him. Anything before God is wrong and as I've learned what might be a problem for one man could be used for the Lord's glory for the next. Happy new year everyone! Love you miss you.
Chris Clearwater

Largo, FL

#473585 Dec 31, 2012
TIM958 wrote:
I think what is missing from American Christians for the most part is humility...... Yes I agree with myself here. Hmmmmm
God bless. Back in choir a song that has stuck with me, What if I gave all? Here is a listen.

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#473586 Dec 31, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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If you start that strawman shite I'm not talking to you. You didn't say what Paul wrote, read your question again, far as I know, Acts was Luke's second book, the verses I provided shows the kinds of things Paul said about Jesus. Acts contains a lot of information about Paul, his awakening, revelations, actions and words. Paul wrote these books in the Bible: Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, and Philemon.
<3
Hi Luci. I'm sure by now you are finding your efforts at having an intelligent conversation with G are futile, and if you allow it, it will lead to frustration. That seems to be his goal in here, to confound and confuse by offering his spin on things which is so far from the truth it is truly ridiculous.

Happy New Year to you.

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

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#473587 Dec 31, 2012
Dr Shrink wrote:
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poster g_o_d is posessed by legion of demons, and those demons fight bloody spiritual war inside of his brain with Holy Spirit trying to throw out those demons,and restore his g_o_d brain spiritual dignity
this guy head,heart,and body is horible tormented, and beaten by 2 powers
and we have to have mercy,and pitty,and pray for this wrecked poor old soul having already one foot in the hell
there is reason,
why he seat here on this topic,
but devils manipulate his brain and always spew against Jesus Christ Gospel
g_o_d needs our daily help and patience
drew just ignore his vile oposition and post to him,LOVE,BIBLE PASSAGES, SWEET WORDS,AND CARE
God bless you Drew
Good advice with much truth, shrink. Let's see if we can do that.
Chris Clearwater

Largo, FL

#473588 Dec 31, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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Happy New Year Apples!!!! May God Bless you and yours for years to come <3
God bless you on the other side of the world. Such a time that people can talk to each other over so many miles so very quickly. This reminds me that I don't think it will be much longer before the events in the Rev of Jesus Christ are here.

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

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#473589 Dec 31, 2012
Chris Clearwater wrote:
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God's love to you. This is true. Before my pastor said yes to the Lord he was a professional football (soccer) player in Ireland. His coach told him he would be a fool to give it up as he had it made. Thankful he said yes to God and part of his witness is how sports had become a false god to him. Anything before God is wrong and as I've learned what might be a problem for one man could be used for the Lord's glory for the next. Happy new year everyone! Love you miss you.
Happy New Year to you and yours, Chris.

I know a pastor who was a highly recruited football player out of high school with many college scholarship offers. He also felt God's call to the ministry. But he chose football. Well his college playing days were shortened by numerous injuries and he was never able to live up to what was expected of him. He finally surrendered to God's calling and now he is serving the Lord and has much more peace, joy, and happiness.

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#473590 Dec 31, 2012
Sora wrote:
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Bonsoir Skombolis, I am honored that I am at last able to greet you. I would like to begin by saying thank you for your kind words as Christians we need to keep in mind that God loves all people and Jesus died for all of us and we must honor his sacrifice by living as he lived. This is my opinion, it is easier to smile at a person than to frown at them.
Seraphine has told me quite a bit about you and I can assure you that in regards to what happened before hand it is forgiven and forgotten. Seraphine and I are currently reading War and Peace at the moment by Leo Tolstoy. Are you familiar with Leo Tolstoy or any of his work? He is our favorite author and everytime we visit Russia is it wonderful indeed.
It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil. If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men, the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui.
What does this quote mean to you? Does it speak to you? I again am honored to have had this conversation and look foward to hearing your thoughts. be well and be blessed :).
Hello Sero

I have seen that quote from Hellen Keller before. I think it speaks for itself pretty much. Doing the right thing and living how we are supposed to live is the most effective way to fight temptation. It is rare the devil or evil tempts us and persuades us when we are at our strongest. It gets us when we are at our weakness.

While I wouldn't go as far as the quote to say the devil would basically die of boredom or disinterest if we spent all our time loving one another as I don't think we are ever 100% out of the reach of temptation and evil will always try to entice man, I do agree with the point which is there would be no evil to fight if we were already doing what we are supposed to. And instead of worrying so much much about what evil is up to we should be flooding the world with love and that would solve the problem more effectively anyway

And just to clarify, while i do believe there is evil in the world and even within the hearts of man and there are forces that seem to tempt us the most when we are weak, I am by no means suggesting that absolves us of responsibility. We have free will. We make our own choices. And God gives us ways around every temptation. So to me there is no "the devil made me do it". But at the same time I do believe in forces of good and evil that exist.

Nice to meet you

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#473592 Dec 31, 2012
Epiphany2 wrote:
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That sounds like a good evening....We will also probably go out to dinner and try to stay up till midnight. I got a Kuerig for Christmas so maybe I should start drinking coffee early....LOL
Hopefully 2013 will be a Better year for America.....
Hugs to you Steve-o
I had to look-up Kuerig! Google for some reason wasn't as helpful as it normally is. I had to scroll for a bit but saw it is a real good coffee maker company. My bank has one of those machines where you put in an individual size container of grounds and close the lid on it and it makes like 2 individual cups of coffee. I have been meaning to look into getting one of those as I make a pot whenever i am in the mood and then it seems like the rest just goes to waste

I hear ya on 2013. It seems like we have been on the steady decline for about15 years now and throw in all the tragedies of last year and it can take its toll mentally. I hope and pray as well we see a better year coming up

(T) Peace

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#473594 Dec 31, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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Yeah, I thought it was pretty nifty myself. I love your posts by the way, you have a very nice, clear way of explaining things. Thank you for sharing <3
Thanks

Hope all is well

:)

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#473596 Dec 31, 2012
Drew H wrote:
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Something I've said on here multiple times. It is quite sad that so many who profess Jesus seem to focus on the carnal things much more than they do the eternal things.
I am assuming you are talking about things unrelated to the Bible and the teachings of Jesus?

Obviously many of Christ's teachings had to do with how we act while alive in human form such as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, giving to the poor, loving thy neighbor, etc. There is a big difference between helping those in the world and when the bible talks about being of the world instead of being of God.

Are you basically just saying there are many that talk about their faith but don't live it? Because I am not sure i am following the eternal to the world comparison. Camping had his followers basically mock the idea of literally feeding starving people food claiming when Jesus said feed the hungry he meant only spiritual "food". That claim was absurd as Jesus maintained many times we were to care for both the physical and spiritual needs of others as he demonstrated in the parable of the Good Samaritan what loving thy neighbor was all about. In fact it says in John

1 John 3:17-18
If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.

So I just wanted to clarify you aren't saying we should ONLY be concerned with the spiritual needs of others are you? I just wanted to make sure i am following what you are defining "carnal" to mean in this instance when comparing it to "eternal" as that comparison almost seems like it is saying any actions focused on the here and now are carnal. But i may not be understanding

(T) Peace

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#473597 Dec 31, 2012
Drew H wrote:
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Something I've said on here multiple times. It is quite sad that so many who profess Jesus seem to focus on the carnal things much more than they do the eternal things.
Dang it, sorry Drew. I first saw your answer in a response from someone else so when I kept going and saw your reply I then asked you the question without seeing what you had said it in response to.

I see now it was said to the post by Lawest where he said:

"True, but the spirit also wrote this through Paul because he wanted our focus on God and his kingdom and so much on "Lebron Jamrs, Basketball" and other worldly entertainment and pleasures, RIGHT???"

So you were definitely talking about things outside the Bible and Christ's teachings but being "of the world".

That is a relief as I was concerned for a minute that you were saying focusing on anything to do with this life makes it carnal. I see now you were talking about things of this world that have nothing to do with Jesus

(T) Peace

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

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#473598 Dec 31, 2012
Drew H wrote:
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I know, RA. He has revealed himself to be very transparent, yet he thinks that no one can see right through him. He is only fooling himself. He is a piece of work, I tell you. It seems he thinks he has more knowledge than the cumulative total of all the other posters here.
Do you believe he actually thinks that the gospel given to Paul on the road to Damascus by Jesus was either Matthew, Mark, Luke or John when that idea is totally preposterous?
Well you can certainly see why my posts to him are limited. It is hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone who only sees things their way without even entertaining the thought that they could be wrong and someone else could be right.
Happy New Year to you and I hope this coming year will be a good one for you. We can only take each day as it comes, though. We're not certain of what tomorrow will bring, so I'm focusing on making each day the best it can be, no matter the circumstances, good or bad..
u no see that god writer is a mad person. him from long time call people nazi and pig and abuse woman jesus follower bunny and her child. then him claim he is a jesus follwer to iyai!

any person that say they follow jesus and no believe whole bible just fooling themselves. because if no believe whole bible then just pick and choose what they want to follow. that god writer doing same thing muslim buddhist do. I well familiar with buddhist religion. they just pick out nice cozy Jesus words they like then toss rest.

all u need to do is read that god person writing and he doublespeak and disagree with himself from one writing to next or even sometime in same writing oy! he just write to get the mumble jumble in his head out so he can read it to. and even after he write it, it still no make any sense to him [lol]

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#473599 Dec 31, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Anyone can say God or Jesus talks to them.
Paul is a confessed liar:
"For if the truth of God has more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?"
The begining of 1900 years of "It's OK to lie for God".
Please show a single verse where Paul quotes Jesus or a single thing from any Gospel.
Red ran away from this challenge. Maybe you have a little more courage.
I agree with some of what you have written as far it is an overused tactic imo for people to claim anyone who doesn't agree with them is misled by the devil. It is not meant for people following the same scripture but with different interpretations, it would be instead someone preaching say a gospel claiming salvation not through Christ or basically completely different than what is found in the bible

However did want to remind you on the verses here you need to look at it in full context. Paul is repeating a rationalization made by others and he emphatically states it is not ok. While Paul wrote the verse you quoted he was not expressing His opinion but rather repeating positions taking by others and then correcting them

(t) Peace

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#473600 Dec 31, 2012
Good afternoon everyone, wishing a Blessed and prosperous new year IN the Lord for each and all. (C:

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

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#473601 Dec 31, 2012
Juicylu wrote:
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I love your posts by the way, you have a very nice, clear way of explaining things.
Much like Dr. Shrink, wouldn't you say?

He just needs to throw in more toilet references.........

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