Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#471085 Dec 16, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Figured that would be your favorite part of the game.
Hahahahahaha..........now that was funny!!!!!

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#471086 Dec 16, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Puts me in the inclusivist camp.
Note that the Yom Kippur sacrifices forgave the 'unintentional sins' of the entire nation. They were forgiven for even the gentiles living in Judea! They were forgiven whether you knew it, believed it or wanted it.
'Intentional sins' however could only be forgiven through repentance.
He basically adheres to a line of demarcation in the article, but as with other areas of doctrine there is overlap. One such instance some hold to is an inclusiveness for those who maintain a righteousness who haven't heard the explicit Gospel; yet are exclusive in terms of whose 'righteousness' one should adhere (YHVH/Jesus)and salvation thereof.

Just one example , and does stay within an 'essential'(Christ-centric).

:)

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

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#471087 Dec 16, 2012
Here For Now wrote:
Hey Skombolis,
Please bear with me my friend. I’m not ignoring you. I will get to your questions, answer them as best I can and try to go back and check for other posts to me when I can.
:)
HFN
Why, I bet you he's mortified...particularly that you've denied him the opportunity to plaster a 10 page response ..and then rebuttal...and rebuttal..and ...

Teasin' ya both :)

Hope you're feeling better,HFN, and if we don't cross paths again before Christmas , may yours be wonder-filled and blest:)

Since: Sep 12

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#471088 Dec 16, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Incredible..........I knew that you were misguided, but it really shines through more than ever now, salvation is a free gift from God true, but we have to as the Apostle Paul said..........fight the good fight of faith, why do you think the Bible telks us to put on the 'whole armour of God that we may be able to withstand the wiles of the devil"?.........that lets us know that we have to fight using our faith to MAINTAIN our salvation, this is all in the Word of God.
I doubt seriously that you would know how to save yourself to began with utilizing God's Holy Word.
How silly can you actually get? READ what you just posted..YOU admitted that salvation is a FREE gift BUT you have to fight to keep it???? LOL..And you call me misguided? Are you going to make your kids WORK off their Free Christmas Gift that you get them this year? A gift is JUST THAT...A GIFT..something somebody gives you without expecting payment.. The fight the good fight of faith??? Lets read this together again...Fight the good fight of F_A_I_T_H....FAITH..Not salvation

You also have to read the entire CONTEXT..When you take the TEXT out of its CONTEXT...It desribes YOU. You love to take a little verse out of a whole chapter and build your own opinion..wrong way to understand the bible. Good evening and I wish you the best in your FIGHT for your FREE Salvation..LOL

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#471089 Dec 16, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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How silly can you actually get? READ what you just posted..YOU admitted that salvation is a FREE gift BUT you have to fight to keep it????......
My dad gave me my first car but wouldn't let me drive it for a month after my first traffic ticket.

Was it still a gift ?

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#471090 Dec 16, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
Edit for last post: "deny myself in FURTHER doing so and from going any deeper into the muck and mire"...
You havent denied yourself..you still rely on "yourself" to keep what Jesus DIED to give you..YOU think YOU can do it YOURself..

As a new Christian and for many years to come, I had to learn what it meant to die to self.

I had to understand Galatians 2:20, "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me...", and Matthew 16:24 where Jesus said, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me."

to "deny self" and to "die to self". And after many failed attempts to do so, I finally said, "I can't die to self myself. That is something that only the Lord can do. I can't do it in my own flesh, but only by His Spirit."

It was when I finally let go of trying to do the work that only the Holy Spirit could do, that I began to grow in His grace.

Good Luck doing it all YOUR-SELF instead of DENYING SELF

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#471091 Dec 16, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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My dad gave me my first car but wouldn't let me drive it for a month after my first traffic ticket.
Was it still a gift ?
Yes..He gave it to you. He punished you because you made a bad choice and got a ticket..It was still your car..and he didnt take away your gift. He made you pay for your mistake. The gift was still a gift.

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#471092 Dec 16, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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How silly can you actually get? READ what you just posted..YOU admitted that salvation is a FREE gift BUT you have to fight to keep it???? LOL..And you call me misguided? Are you going to make your kids WORK off their Free Christmas Gift that you get them this year? A gift is JUST THAT...A GIFT..something somebody gives you without expecting payment.. The fight the good fight of faith??? Lets read this together again...Fight the good fight of F_A_I_T_H....FAITH..Not salvation
You also have to read the entire CONTEXT..When you take the TEXT out of its CONTEXT...It desribes YOU. You love to take a little verse out of a whole chapter and build your own opinion..wrong way to understand the bible. Good evening and I wish you the best in your FIGHT for your FREE Salvation..LOL
You ask how silly can I get when it is YOU who are so delusionally blind to God's truth?
I never take any scripture out of context, anything that I conveyed here has not only always been Biblically true but I've always had precepts to correctly divide the Word of God, precepts upon precepts, line upon line, here a little a there a little.

And you and your fellows lack that ingredient in trying to teach damnable heresies that you can sin WILLFULLY and turn your back and still yet be saved.

Since: Oct 12

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#471093 Dec 16, 2012
Make a joyful noise unto the Lord al ye lands

Serve the Lord with gladness:come before his presence with singing.

Know ye that the Lord he is God:it is he that has
made us,and not we ourselves,we are his people and the sheep of his pasture.

Enter into his gates with thanksgiving and into his courts with praise:be thankful unto him and bless his name.

For the Lord is good;his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
Psalms 100
A song of praise and joy.

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#471094 Dec 16, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> You ask how silly can I get when it is YOU who are so delusionally blind to God's truth?
I never take any scripture out of context, anything that I conveyed here has not only always been Biblically true but I've always had precepts to correctly divide the Word of God, precepts upon precepts, line upon line, here a little a there a little.
And you and your fellows lack that ingredient in trying to teach damnable heresies that you can sin WILLFULLY and turn your back and still yet be saved.
Turn your back ON GOD..........

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

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#471095 Dec 16, 2012
Hey ol' "Clueless" lurker(could be one of two;)

Such a "Clueless Wonder" you don't have the acumen to formulate an intelligent response?

....didn't think so, but com'on out...I'm in rare form ...wanna party?!

Ready Freddy ;)
Doctor REALTY

United States

#471096 Dec 16, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Yes..He gave it to you. He punished you because you made a bad choice and got a ticket..It was still your car..and he didnt take away your gift. He made you pay for your mistake. The gift was still a gift.
Hello,Mrs. Grace. How you doin' tonight?? Let me ask you a question,ma'am: If 'once saved always saved' wasn't REAL,wouldn't you think that it would have been wrong for the thief on the cross to receive salvation as he was dying,since the only 'works' he could offer to the Lord Jesus Christ as a 'last second believer' was his FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ. I mean,it's not like the Lord told him 'I can't save you because I'd have to have them take you down from your cross and have you water-baptised before I could forgive you and save you.'(Not to try to minimize the importance of the Lord's command to be baptised,but to make a point to all of those people who try to put 'attachments' on salvation itself)

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

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#471097 Dec 16, 2012
lil whispers wrote:
Make a joyful noise unto the Lord al ye lands
Serve the Lord with gladness:come before his presence with singing.
Know ye that the Lord he is God:it is he that has
made us,and not we ourselves,we are his people and the sheep of his pasture.
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving and into his courts with praise:be thankful unto him and bless his name.
For the Lord is good;his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
Psalms 100
A song of praise and joy.
Here ya go ,Whispers:)

Doctor REALTY

United States

#471098 Dec 16, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Turn your back ON GOD..........
You're struggling with PORN,aren't you?? You've been worrying yourself sick about your salvation because you're starting to have doubts about whether,or not,you'll stay saved in the end,aren't you?? Or maybe you're so busy trying to J-U-D-G-E some brother,or sister,at your church that you no longer have the time,or the desire,to keep your Snuffleupagus nose in your own business,huh??

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#471099 Dec 16, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Yes..He gave it to you. He punished you because you made a bad choice and got a ticket..It was still your car..and he didnt take away your gift. He made you pay for your mistake. The gift was still a gift.
So why should God be any different ?

If my father knew that I was never going to be able to drive a car without hurting others, should he ever let me drive ?

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#471100 Dec 16, 2012
Doctor REALTY wrote:
<quoted text>You're struggling with PORN,aren't you?? You've been worrying yourself sick about your salvation because you're starting to have doubts about whether,or not,you'll stay saved in the end,aren't you?? Or maybe you're so busy trying to J-U-D-G-E some brother,or sister,at your church that you no longer have the time,or the desire,to keep your Snuffleupagus nose in your own business,huh??
Well we all know now that the cowboy RB butt cheeks exposed made that game for you, didn't it?

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

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#471101 Dec 16, 2012
Doctor REALTY wrote:
<quoted text>You're struggling with PORN,aren't you?? You've been worrying yourself sick about your salvation because you're starting to have doubts about whether,or not,you'll stay saved in the end,aren't you?? Or maybe you're so busy trying to J-U-D-G-E some brother,or sister,at your church that you no longer have the time,or the desire,to keep your Snuffleupagus nose in your own business,huh??
WHOOP! Here 'IT' is ....

Let's party...

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

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#471102 Dec 16, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Well we all know now that the cowboy RB butt cheeks exposed made that game for you, didn't it?
Hello Scott,

Ya know, it's happened quite often that a 'believer', particularly in an illustrious position, has been exposed of 'secret sin'(usually sexual) that they themselves RAILED against..often . Haggard and Swaggart come to mind. Could it be someone here is "crying out"?
;)

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#471103 Dec 16, 2012
Senecus wrote:
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WHOOP! Here 'IT' is ....
Let's party...
Sorry John but he can have a party with himself, haven't you noticed how he responds to his own posts.

Since: Sep 12

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#471104 Dec 16, 2012
Doctor REALTY wrote:
<quoted text>Hello,Mrs. Grace. How you doin' tonight?? Let me ask you a question,ma'am: If 'once saved always saved' wasn't REAL,wouldn't you think that it would have been wrong for the thief on the cross to receive salvation as he was dying,since the only 'works' he could offer to the Lord Jesus Christ as a 'last second believer' was his FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ. I mean,it's not like the Lord told him 'I can't save you because I'd have to have them take you down from your cross and have you water-baptised before I could forgive you and save you.'(Not to try to minimize the importance of the Lord's command to be baptised,but to make a point to all of those people who try to put 'attachments' on salvation itself)
Yes Dr..It would have made no sense at all since Jesus came to save the world from sin. He didnt say that He would give up His life to save the people BUT ONLY Under certain conditions..I believe that OSAS.. God doesn't NEED or WANT our sacrifice..He GAVE US ONE. I believe those that try to earn it by their works have SALVATION and their Christian LIFE mixed together. Salvation is a done deal. Knowing that will NOT make us want to go out and willfully sin. Those types of believers add that to rub their own ego..They are still in the FLESH MODE..Thank You Dr. maybe one day their eyes will be opened as ours was.

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