Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

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#470865 Dec 15, 2012
hick-up wrote:
You all can argue this OSAS bs for another two thousand years ...you can boast of your Biblical intellect ...you can bore the hell out of all of us ...
But when you give it identity ...when you give it a face and a name ...when you bring it home, it takes on a whole new meaning.
Almost a life of it's own.
What caused Adam Lanza to commit these atrocities?
And is it found in his flesh or in his soul?
Can a person whose name is written in the Lambs Book of Life commit such heinous acts?
Can that person suffer a mental defect?
I can give you my take on it but it will sound unorthodoxed of course. Do you mind?

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#470866 Dec 15, 2012
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. I will stay on point here as our focus is our faith in the Lord. God help this nation. Take care bro. My sister teaches 4th grade kids. It breaks my heart
With your sister being a teacher I can understand how this must've really hit home with you bro. God bless the families and everyone involved.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#470867 Dec 15, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>I can give you my take on it but it will sound unorthodoxed of course. Do you mind?
Of course not ...please ...

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#470868 Dec 15, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
Good afternoon everyone, just in from work, hope everyone had a blessed saturday.
Personally, so far so good... mourning with the nation though.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470869 Dec 15, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
Sheesh
MERRY Christmas not mArry
LOL....I think your phone is trying to tell you something... Marry (at) Christmas!!

:-)

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#470870 Dec 15, 2012
hick-up wrote:
You all can argue this OSAS bs for another two thousand years ...you can boast of your Biblical intellect ...you can bore the hell out of all of us ...
But when you give it identity ...when you give it a face and a name ...when you bring it home, it takes on a whole new meaning.
Almost a life of it's own.
What caused Adam Lanza to commit these atrocities?
And is it found in his flesh or in his soul?
Can a person whose name is written in the Lambs Book of Life commit such heinous acts?
Can that person suffer a mental defect?
For once I find myself in agreement with what you've said, and if this man was by chance a born again christian then I would dare the OSAS theologist to say that this man would still be saved, but chances are He very likely wasn't.
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#470871 Dec 15, 2012
As I'm watching the evening news,right now,I'm not sorry for saying that,I don't care if that Lanza murderer was only twenty years old,I HOPE he died and went to hell for the evil,wicked acts he committed yesterday!! Yes,I hope his soul is in hell suffering,right now,and forever,for the wickedness he perpetrated upon those innocent babies and people yesterday! He's a scumbag COWARD,and I hope he's suffering in hell!

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#470872 Dec 15, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
As I'm watching the evening news,right now,I'm not sorry for saying that,I don't care if that Lanza murderer was only twenty years old,I HOPE he died and went to hell for the evil,wicked acts he committed yesterday!! Yes,I hope his soul is in hell suffering,right now,and forever,for the wickedness he perpetrated upon those innocent babies and people yesterday! He's a scumbag COWARD,and I hope he's suffering in hell!
And I hope you meet him there someday..........
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#470873 Dec 15, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
And I hope you meet him there someday..........
And I wish you had been the only person killed when United 175 crashed into the wtc.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#470874 Dec 15, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>And I wish you had been the only person killed when United 175 crashed into the wtc.
How do you suppose people full of hatred like you and RA could possibly get into a heaven of of love and laughter? An improbability if you ask me..........
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#470875 Dec 15, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
And I hope you meet him there someday..........

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470876 Dec 15, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
Once Saved Always Saved? You Decide.
Sequel Part 7
"“Every one who hates his brother is a murderer... and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.” 1 John 3:15
How is this proof of a Christian losing salvation? I am beginning to think you are a poster that comes on here named Lie Buster..Are you him? You have the same style of posting and just as religious as he was on a lot of other threads. Lie Buster always tried to discredit anything that I posted and you do the same thing..Hmmmmm??? Good night Lie Buster
Doctor REALITY

North Little Rock, AR

#470877 Dec 15, 2012
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you suppose people full of hatred like you and RA could possibly get into a heaven of of love and laughter? An improbability if you ask me..........

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#470878 Dec 15, 2012
Here For Now wrote:
<quoted text>
I’m still not feeling myself so was just going to read some till I read this.
With all due respect Lawest, Le Le and Roberta have been posting with us for years. And with all due respect you have not shaken me with your words. You are free to believe what you want and so am I. I am not fragile and I believe once saved always saved. Neither are Le Le and Roberta fragile.
I’m not saying you are not wanted here but Le Le and Roberta are wanted here to
Good evening HFN, although your post doesn't really surprise me I have to wonder why you decided to stop at my post to respond, I was merely defending myself to le le who was on the attack against me for which you apparently felt no need to respond to, that's biasism.
As for OSAS, Timothy McVeigh ( remember him?) wtho blow up the federal building in Oklahoma was a professing christian, killing many innocent people, do is HE going to be saved according to your OSAS doctrine?

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470879 Dec 15, 2012
Roberta G wrote:
Boy, will I have a lot to say later on! Be afraid. Be VERY afraid :p
LOL.....I'm afraid

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470880 Dec 15, 2012
Red Apples wrote:
To BLL.
First of all myself nor anyone else has ever said that "salvation wasn't available before Jesus Christ was crucified" as you seem to be insinuating in the first line of your post.
Now having said that let me say this. I won't go round and round with you or anyone else about this anymore. We will have to agree to disagree on many things. Because I believe that much of what you're saying and much of what you believe contradicts what is said in God's Word. And that you're taking many things said in God's Word completely out of context.
Here's an example of that. You keep saying quote: "our righteousness". We have no righteousness of "our own". We have the "righteousness of God through our faith in Jesus Christ". Saying "our righteousness" is giving us credit for what God has done. Or simply put, something we've attained because of "our works". Which is something you and the others that believe that "we can lose our salvation after God has given it to us" have so badly missed the mark on.
I hope and pray that someday you and those that share your beliefs will realize that we are saved by grace. And that works can't save you or anyone else.
Hi RA..
I dont think they know that ALL their sins are already forgiven..Past, present and future. Thats why they try to work and earn their salvation. They dont TRUST or BELIEVE Jesus..They only trust in their strength. I can only shake my head at the false glory that they give themselves for being so good. I guess what Jesus has done for them, just wasn't enough.

In Colossians 2:13 Paul wrote,“He forgave us all our sins”. The Greek word he used means each and every sin. That means past present and future.

In Ephesians 1:13-14 he said our salvation was guaranteed from the moment we first believed. How could he have said that unless our future sins had been forgiven as well as our past ones? He said essentially the same thing in 2 Cor. 1:21-22 and 2 Cor. 5:5.

In Hebrews 10:14 the writer said,“Because by one sacrifice He has made PERFECT FOREVER those who are being made holy.” How could God see us as perfect unless all our sins had been forgiven?

I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

Had this not been the case, everyone who has been saved would have been lost again within a few days, and the Lord’s death would have amounted to nothing. The reason is that by God’s standards it’s humanly impossible to stop sinning. But In their own eyes, they are smarter and stronger than God.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#470881 Dec 15, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>And I wish you had been the only person killed when United 175 crashed into the wtc.
Wishing death on someone my "good christian friend"????? You are the worst kind of hypocrite and a joke of a human being, when GW defended you for my calling you a creep..........that said as much about her as it does for you.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#470882 Dec 15, 2012
hick-up wrote:
You all can argue this OSAS bs for another two thousand years ...you can boast of your Biblical intellect ...you can bore the hell out of all of us ...
But when you give it identity ...when you give it a face and a name ...when you bring it home, it takes on a whole new meaning.
Almost a life of it's own.
What caused Adam Lanza to commit these atrocities?
I just looked at some of the news reports today... Conflicting reports if the cops have an exact motive or not from the little that I've seen.
hick-up wrote:
And is it found in his flesh or in his soul?
Speaking from my viewpoint: Both... whether he was mentally ill or not, saved or not or if it was a bad reaction from any prescibed or any other drugs he was taking. If a bad reaction from prescribed drugs then it takes on a whole new motive but still found in both soul and flesh.

I believe initially, that out of men's hearts come these things.. murders and the like as Jesus stated. And if those desires get out of hand or aren't controlled then it is acted upon. Starts off in our hearts (our soul) first. I believe satan or any other demonic force takes or can take full advantage of this when one isn't disciplined to control theirselves. Come to think of it, it may not always be satan.. it could be that the person was just being evil.

James "When tempted, no one should say,“God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone... but each one is tempted when, BY HIS OWN EVIL DESIRE, he is dragged away and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death." James 1
hick-up wrote:
Can a person whose name is written in the Lambs Book of Life commit such heinous acts?
If undisciplined, yes... and yes... it is also possible that their names could also be blotted out of the Lamb's Book of Life. You know, I read just yesterday the book of life is also mentioned in the OT... I haven't studied that yet but just happen to see it. I thought it was interesting: Exodus 32:33, Psalm 62:28
hick-up wrote:
Can that person suffer a mental defect?
Yes.

__________

Now the OSAS Lite gospel doctrine may take a different standpoint to the above.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#470883 Dec 15, 2012
Edit for last post: Psalm 69:28... not Psalm 62:28.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470884 Dec 15, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good evening HFN, although your post doesn't really surprise me I have to wonder why you decided to stop at my post to respond, I was merely defending myself to le le who was on the attack against me for which you apparently felt no need to respond to, that's biasism.
As for OSAS, Timothy McVeigh ( remember him?) wtho blow up the federal building in Oklahoma was a professing christian, killing many innocent people, do is HE going to be saved according to your OSAS doctrine?
Please dont try and make a mockery of God..I could accept a comment like this from an unbeliever that doesn't know God but not from someone who claims to know Him..Just because Timothy McVeigh PROFESSED to be a Christian with his mouth does NOT mean that The he was baptized with The Holy Spirit. His heart was quickened with The Spirit of God and you know it. The heart of a true believer is filled with the Love of God and is being led by the Spirit. Will the Spirit of God lead anybody to do such evil? If Timothy McVeigh repented after such evil, then IMHO Yes, Jesus will accept him just as He acepted YOU and your evil. Paul killed many innocent people too but God saved him and used him in a might way. I am amazed at the lengths that some of you "religious people" will go through to prove that YOU are so wise and will mock God and His word to do it..Have a nice night. Its not about Religion....Its about a "Relationship"

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