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Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470604 Dec 13, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
There had to be more to living for God then a list of rules and struggling
The law was given with the intention of re-establishing what was lost in the garden. From the beginning, the law was to assist us in building a relationship with the epitome of righteousness. What was expected then is expected now. We're to learn the spiritual aspects of the law until we no longer need the law as a guide. This is where Israel failed, but where we're supposed to succeed.
Grace Walker wrote:
to be sombody that I just could not be.
Such a thought hinders spiritual growth. If we couldn't reflect our Godhead, no such instructions would exist.
Grace Walker wrote:
Jesus knew we could NOT live up to Gods standards...before we became a believer and AFTER we became a believer.
Incorrect, my friend.

Our anointed Savior not only came to be a perfect example of how we all should think, act, react, and speak, but he taught us how to accomplish this, also, by teaching us the spiritual aspects of the law. Knowing that perfection is a gradual process, we've been granted sufficient grace to help each and every one of us, in times of need.
Grace Walker wrote:
THATS why He came and thats WHY He suffered the most horrible death known to man.
He came to reform Judaism, first and foremost. He came to fulfill what Israel became dependent on. He came to fulfill those laws that Israel considered greater, or even preferred more, than actual obedience to the moral law of love.
Grace Walker wrote:
He didnt do that and then "put us on probation" ..Just to watch us fail.
Not to watch us fail, no. But, this is a probationary period. "Grace," after all, is synonymous with "probation," is it not? We've been given grace, which means that the judgment of death has been removed for a time. During this period, we're to (re-)condition our minds and hearts to live according to the spiritual aspects of the law, as this will prove our desire to live in the kingdom of glory.
Grace Walker wrote:
Why do you think He added an even stricter rules to the already strict rules?
Actually, he didn't. He taught what the nation of Israel neglected. Does not Proverbs 24:9 warn, "The thought of foolishness is sin"? It might seem more strict, but the intention is to eradicate temptation, as temptations come from within.
Grace Walker wrote:
You dont even know how to rightly divide the scriptures yet.
...says the member of only one of the myriad of denominations that accuse all others of the same.
Grace Walker wrote:
The bible tells us to leave the childish behavior behind and go on to more mature teachings. You wont listen to the more mature teachings because you want everybody to listen to YOU...
Of a surety, the prophets, apostles, and disciples, were all accused of the same.
Grace Walker wrote:
If you desire to be a preacher, preach the truth!!! Did you know that the "Gospel" doesn't even begin until the Book of Acts? No, You probably still think as a immature babe in Christ and assume it is Matthew through Luke, just because theirs is called the Gospel of...so and so...Learn the Gospel of Jesus Christ and you wont be so quick to assume ANYTHING..
The books called "Matthew," "Mark," "Luke," and "John," are still "the gospel." This is why, at Luke 4:18, our anointed Savior is quoted as quoting the prophet Isaiah. "Gospel" means "good news."
Grace Walker wrote:
have a good evening and simply ask God to reveal to you HIS truth instead of the man behind the pulpit.
If you don't mind my asking, where do you receive your knowledge? And please, don't say, "the Holy Spirit," as you'll be only one of a billion plus.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Until next time...

Shalowm.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#470605 Dec 13, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>There are a lot of people attending,and actively being involved in,churches who are 'stone cold' UNSAVED.
And I'm talking about as in NEVER HAVING BEEN SAVED.
endtime

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#470606 Dec 13, 2012
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“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#470607 Dec 13, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Good Afternoon Drew... it was pretty much the same thing here last night. I'm sorry Drew but I missed (not on purpose). Can you please resend? Thanks.
http://www.bibleissues.org/eternal_security1....

There you go Q. It is a good article.

Happy reading. I wish I had more time to spend here, but I'm pretty busy teaching, reffing and tutoring. Got to take care of the young people, you know.

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#470608 Dec 13, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Hello Mr. Daffy Dork.
mongoloid ...

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#470609 Dec 13, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that one should read the whole chapter of Eph 2 in context... with all due respect, It is written:
"For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead."
I think you meant James 2, not Ephesians 2. And I'm going to be posting in the near future some things about rightly dividing and the general epistles, that were written specifically to Jewish believers. Just be patient and hear me out.

“Messenger w/ a Message”

Since: Sep 07

planet earth, for now

#470610 Dec 13, 2012
Roberta G wrote:
<quoted text>I certainly can't argue with that :) But I've never heard of the London Confession.
You can google it. It is a very good study.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470611 Dec 13, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Hello Shrink. Hello Mrs.Grace. Ya'll aight tonight??
Hi Dr..
I am doing great tonight. Feeling very blessed and loved by our Heavenly Father. He loves us so much. Have a great night and sleep peacefully my friend.
Simplyput

Aurora, CO

#470612 Dec 13, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>The law was given with the intention of re-establishing what was lost in the garden. From the beginning, the law was to assist us in building a relationship with the epitome of righteousness. What was expected then is expected now. We're to learn the spiritual aspects of the law until we no longer need the law as a guide. This is where Israel failed, but where we're supposed to succeed.
<quoted text>Such a thought hinders spiritual growth. If we couldn't reflect our Godhead, no such instructions would exist.
<quoted text>Incorrect, my friend.
Our anointed Savior not only came to be a perfect example of how we all should think, act, react, and speak, but he taught us how to accomplish this, also, by teaching us the spiritual aspects of the law. Knowing that perfection is a gradual process, we've been granted sufficient grace to help each and every one of us, in times of need.
<quoted text>He came to reform Judaism, first and foremost. He came to fulfill what Israel became dependent on. He came to fulfill those laws that Israel considered greater, or even preferred more, than actual obedience to the moral law of love.
<quoted text>Not to watch us fail, no. But, this is a probationary period. "Grace," after all, is synonymous with "probation," is it not? We've been given grace, which means that the judgment of death has been removed for a time. During this period, we're to (re-)condition our minds and hearts to live according to the spiritual aspects of the law, as this will prove our desire to live in the kingdom of glory.
<quoted text>Actually, he didn't. He taught what the nation of Israel neglected. Does not Proverbs 24:9 warn, "The thought of foolishness is sin"? It might seem more strict, but the intention is to eradicate temptation, as temptations come from within.
<quoted text>...says the member of only one of the myriad of denominations that accuse all others of the same.
<quoted text>Of a surety, the prophets, apostles, and disciples, were all accused of the same.
<quoted text>The books called "Matthew," "Mark," "Luke," and "John," are still "the gospel." This is why, at Luke 4:18, our anointed Savior is quoted as quoting the prophet Isaiah. "Gospel" means "good news."
<quoted text>If you don't mind my asking, where do you receive your knowledge? And please, don't say, "the Holy Spirit," as you'll be only one of a billion plus.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Until next time...
Shalowm.
Just a quick question BLL.
If your children ( if you have children)
came to you and said -Dad, we just can't be perfect like you. We don't want meet anyone in life , in fear we might goof up and sin before we get married. We don't want to ask Jesus into our hearts, in fear that we have to be perfect in every way like you do .
I feel like Dad, we will loose our 'free will. And another Dad, I would want the Holy Spirit to guide me and give unto me knowledge of Jesus, but you would say - I am a liar.
So Dad, how to I get out of this religion thing? after I leave home?
BLL, would you disown your children if this really happened?

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470613 Dec 13, 2012
Drew H wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Steve, Yes I am looking forward to the holidays. My wife is scheduled for surgery on the 21st of December, just one day after her Christmas break begins, but she should be back to normal before she goes back to work.
Now I think you will remember some time ago we had a discussion about who the Bible was written to and that I said that certain parts were written to certain people. Well, when this is not understood, then scriptures get taken out of context. I also said that the scriptures need to be rightly divided so that understanding can be more clear. Hebrews is written to Hebrews (Jews). this is no mention of Gentiles in the book. The warnings are for the Jews who converted to Christianity, but some of them couldn't let go of Judaism. In other words, they were still relying on themselves to produce righteousness. The general epistles, Hebrews through Jude are alike. They are all written to the Jews, not to the Gentiles.
And it gets deeper and I will try, in the near future, in a continuous discussion, to clarify this. So, due to time and space constraints, I will say this; I believe with all my heart, that if God has truly illuminated an individual, they will persevere til the end.
Take care and I appreciate the shout.
Awesome Drew..Keep posting the Truth. I love reading them

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#470614 Dec 13, 2012
Hebrews 8:9
See Exodus 19:3-8
Exodus 19:3-8
Deuteronomy 4:13
See Exodus 19:5 and 24:8
See Hebrews 8:10
Exodus 24:3,4-7
Exodus 24:5-8
Hebrews 9:19&20
Exodus 32:1&19
See Exodus 34:1&28
First Covenant

Hebrews 8:6
Jeremiah 31:33&34
See Hebrews 8:8-12
See Ezekiel 36:27
Genesis 3:14&15
Genesis 17:15,19,and 24:4
Galatians 3:16&29
See Galatians 3:17 and 3:7&9
Hebrews 9:16&17
Luke 22:20
Hebrews 13:20&21
Hebrews 9:14&15
Second Covenant

See John 15:5
See Isaiah 64:6
See Romans 3:20-26
See Philippians 3:9
See Isaiah 54:17
See Jeremiah 23:6
Jeremiah 31:33
Deuteronomy 10:3&4
Jeremiah 31:33
Hebrews 8:7&8
Ephesians 2:11-13
Old and New Compared

Hebrews 8:13
Hebrews 8:7
contraste and designate

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470615 Dec 13, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>The law was given with the intention of re-establishing what was lost in the garden. From the beginning, the law was to assist us in building a relationship with the epitome of righteousness. What was expected then is expected now. We're to learn the spiritual aspects of the law until we no longer need the law as a guide. This is where Israel failed, but where we're supposed to succeed.
<quoted text>Such a thought hinders spiritual growth. If we couldn't reflect our Godhead, no such instructions would exist.
<quoted text>Incorrect, my friend.
Our anointed Savior not only came to be a perfect example of how we all should think, act, react, and speak, but he taught us how to accomplish this, also, by teaching us the spiritual aspects of the law. Knowing that perfection is a gradual process, we've been granted sufficient grace to help each and every one of us, in times of need.
<quoted text>He came to reform Judaism, first and foremost. He came to fulfill what Israel became dependent on. He came to fulfill those laws that Israel considered greater, or even preferred more, than actual obedience to the moral law of love.
<quoted text>Not to watch us fail, no. But, this is a probationary period. "Grace," after all, is synonymous with "probation," is it not? We've been given grace, which means that the judgment of death has been removed for a time. During this period, we're to (re-)condition our minds and hearts to live according to the spiritual aspects of the law, as this will prove our desire to live in the kingdom of glory.
<quoted text>Actually, he didn't. He taught what the nation of Israel neglected. Does not Proverbs 24:9 warn, "The thought of foolishness is sin"? It might seem more strict, but the intention is to eradicate temptation, as temptations come from within.
<quoted text>...says the member of only one of the myriad of denominations that accuse all others of the same.
<quoted text>Of a surety, the prophets, apostles, and disciples, were all accused of the same.
<quoted text>The books called "Matthew," "Mark," "Luke," and "John," are still "the gospel." This is why, at Luke 4:18, our anointed Savior is quoted as quoting the prophet Isaiah. "Gospel" means "good news."
<quoted text>If you don't mind my asking, where do you receive your knowledge? And please, don't say, "the Holy Spirit," as you'll be only one of a billion plus.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Until next time...
Shalowm.
When Jesus cried "IT IS FINISHED" I believe He meant it. Salvation happened then and all we had to do was accet that nd ALLOW God to chnge us. PERIOD.. However, if you insist on doing More than Jesus, then by all means..try. I choose to enter into His rest. good night

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470616 Dec 13, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>The law was given with the intention of re-establishing what was lost in the garden. From the beginning, the law was to assist us in building a relationship with the epitome of righteousness. What was expected then is expected now. We're to learn the spiritual aspects of the law until we no longer need the law as a guide. This is where Israel failed, but where we're supposed to succeed.
<quoted text>Such a thought hinders spiritual growth. If we couldn't reflect our Godhead, no such instructions would exist.
<quoted text>Incorrect, my friend.
Our anointed Savior not only came to be a perfect example of how we all should think, act, react, and speak, but he taught us how to accomplish this, also, by teaching us the spiritual aspects of the law. Knowing that perfection is a gradual process, we've been granted sufficient grace to help each and every one of us, in times of need.
<quoted text>He came to reform Judaism, first and foremost. He came to fulfill what Israel became dependent on. He came to fulfill those laws that Israel considered greater, or even preferred more, than actual obedience to the moral law of love.
<quoted text>Not to watch us fail, no. But, this is a probationary period. "Grace," after all, is synonymous with "probation," is it not? We've been given grace, which means that the judgment of death has been removed for a time. During this period, we're to (re-)condition our minds and hearts to live according to the spiritual aspects of the law, as this will prove our desire to live in the kingdom of glory.
<quoted text>Actually, he didn't. He taught what the nation of Israel neglected. Does not Proverbs 24:9 warn, "The thought of foolishness is sin"? It might seem more strict, but the intention is to eradicate temptation, as temptations come from within.
<quoted text>...says the member of only one of the myriad of denominations that accuse all others of the same.
<quoted text>Of a surety, the prophets, apostles, and disciples, were all accused of the same.
<quoted text>The books called "Matthew," "Mark," "Luke," and "John," are still "the gospel." This is why, at Luke 4:18, our anointed Savior is quoted as quoting the prophet Isaiah. "Gospel" means "good news."
<quoted text>If you don't mind my asking, where do you receive your knowledge? And please, don't say, "the Holy Spirit," as you'll be only one of a billion plus.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Until next time...
Shalowm.
So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Galatians 3:24..

Thats what the law was for...You mean you havent found your GUIDE yet???

Let me introduce you to a man named JESUS...He is the guide to everything we need..not the law..Legalism has blinded you.

Let me put it another way. The law was our guardian until Christ came; it protected us until we could be made right with God through faith.

the moral law - the Law of God - shows people their sin and danger, and thus leads them to the Saviour. It condemns them, and thus prepares them to welcome the offer of pardon through a Redeemer.

The Bible teaches that Jesus DIDN'T come into the world to condemn anyone; but rather, to save sinners. What a precious truth! It is the Law of God that condemns all mankind. Many people mistakenly believe that the Ten Commandments are a plan of salvation, but they are not. God's Law condemns all of us as miserable failures and guilty sinners (Romans 3:10-23).

You ask where i get my knowledge??? The BIBLE......American Bible Academy...where do you get yours?

Since: Sep 12

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#470617 Dec 13, 2012
There is so much false teaching today because people don't understand this basic Biblical truth. Salvation simply involves acknowledging one's guilt of sin under God's Law and then trusting upon the Savior for forgiveness. There is much condemnation today from religious folks, who put sinners on trial and demand that they clean up their life in order to be saved. Others teach that a person must "persevere" in holy living in order to get to Heaven. And then there are those religious folks who teach that a person can lose their salvation if they go into sin. All of these false doctrines are rooted in the keeping of the Law, which is a road to Hell.

1st Timothy 1:15 the Apostle Paul said,“This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS; of whom I am chief.” The reason why Jesus Christ came into this world was to SAVE SINNERS. May I say to all you religious folks who teach a false gospel... let Jesus SAVE SINNERS! Salvation is of the Lord. It is the Lord's job to save sinners.

It's time for Lordship Salvationists to stop condemning people and let JESUS SAVE SINNERS!

It's time for Calvinists to stop condemning people who fail to persevere and let JESUS SAVE SINNERS!

It's time for those who teach that salvation can be lost to stop condemning people and let JESUS SAVE SINNERS!

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#470618 Dec 13, 2012
If Jesus didn't come into the world to condemn sinners, then neither should we. Jesus came to SAVE SINNERS and that is the wonderful message of the Gospel. Romans 4:5 wonderfully proclaims,“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Amen and amen! A man's faith is COUNTED for righteousness, because we have no self-righteousness of our own to offer God (Isaiah 64:6). The Bible says here that Jesus justifieth THE UNGODLY, by faith. That is the only type of person that Jesus ever saves, an ungodly person, for to be anything else is self-righteousness.

Lordship Salvationists errantly teach that a person must have intent to reform or else they cannot be saved. That is not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that an ungodly man's faith is counted for righteousness. Thus, he needs no righteousness of his own, and a good thing, because we have none to offer. JESUS CAME TO SAVE SINNERS!

John 8:32,36,“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free ... If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”

What freedom do you have in the Law? All those who dont believe in Grace..What did Jesus free you from?
LEE ANN

Old Saybrook, CT

#470619 Dec 13, 2012
Take time to wish each other a Merry CHRISTMAS....

Simplyput

Aurora, CO

#470620 Dec 13, 2012
Satan just loves to get into a new Christian's mind and tell all kinds of deceiving suggestions. Just like he did with Eve.

After all, Satan is the Father of a lie. He will throw guilt and doubts to us, might even throw a little truth in there so as to not be recognized.

Satan hates it when he thinks you might endure the
Faithfulness of Jesus Christ until the end.So he wants to make you think you better be perfect.

We are not perfect, until the perfect comes.

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#470621 Dec 13, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>There are a lot of people attending,and actively being involved in,churches who are 'stone cold' UNSAVED.
....And you bear witness to such, no?

Hee hee ;)

Teasin' ya Doc, but point well taken. There are those who feel they get a 'brownie point', another tally mark on the great celestial chalk board every time they darken a church door. They may be busy in service, yet in bondage. It becomes a 'works based' "salvation" if one senses such moves them towards a 'greater grace'.

“ Xue Rengui”

Since: Oct 09

Khitan extraordinaire

#470622 Dec 13, 2012
Drew H wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Steve, Yes I am looking forward to the holidays. My wife is scheduled for surgery on the 21st of December, just one day after her Christmas break begins, but she should be back to normal before she goes back to work.
..........
Hello Drew, hope nothing serious and didn't know.

Look forward to a little R&R during holidays ,too. May catch up with you here a bit more then, take care:)
Simplyput

Aurora, CO

#470623 Dec 13, 2012
LEE ANN wrote:
Take time to wish each other a Merry CHRISTMAS....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =pzEbY2IJSHEXX
And a Merry Christmas to you.

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