“Romans 8:1.”

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#470174 Dec 11, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Hey John! saw ur post in a reply but didnt realize u had just made it and were around now. you know me, had to at least dabble in this discussion! LOL But am just writing to say Hi. How has the rehab been going? I cant remember what day in December you said you were having that apt to decide the next step. did that happen already? if so whats the decision if u dont mind me asking?(T) PEACE
Hey Skom.

Rehab is going well. I go M,W and F for about an hour each day. I work on a machine that's kind of like a sit down version of what it would be like to cross country ski. The girl that's in charge of me says of all the exercise machines they have the one I'm on seems to do the best job of working the most muscles.

I had my appointment last week with another heart specialist about having an ICD (Implantable Cardioverter-Defibrillator) implanted in my chest. He feels it's something I really need. So I go in on January the 7th to have it done. It's a pretty minor surgery that only takes about 2-3 hours if all goes according to plan. I will be in the Hospital over night than home the next day if all goes well. The recovery time is only a couple of weeks with just a few restrictions.

Guess I'll climb back in the sack and catch some more zzz's. Have a good one. God bless.

“Romans 8:1.”

Since: Aug 09

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#470175 Dec 11, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is that an interesting question?
Your witness for God on topix is what I am referring to. Whether it be abortion, water baptism..and so on..you are:
Pompus selfrighteous and rude.
From how you speak of your pastor and church and the over the
top belief system there- you are simply following "suit"..
I do not consider myself to have a "brand" of Christianity.
Older in my walk w Christ than you think- I am sure.
Have studied and learned Scripture with some amazing people.
Not looking to be taught by you.
Happy in my walk..
Take care Lawlest- do not wish you harm- just can't stay on sidelines
when there is something dear to my heart being
trampled on.
Hi Le_le, it's good to see you here. Great post. Right on the money. I agree 100% with what you said. Very perceptive on your part.

Well done.

I hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas and a fantastic New Year full of God's abundant blessings.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#470176 Dec 11, 2012
einstain wrote:
RELIGION IS EXPRESSION OF WEAK MIND ,AND LAZY WAY OUT NOT ASKING QUESTION AND SEEKING THE TRUTH.
Using CAPLOCKS ONLY when you type is WEAK and LAZY. The Lord Jesus DIED AT THE HOLY CROSS OF CALVARY to redeem your lost soul.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470177 Dec 11, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
I disagree but respect your arguement and the thought put into it. It still doesn't resolve the Boolean impossibility. Either God is a God of the Dead or God isn't. The time and audience doesn't affect that. The contradiction still stands unless Jesus or Paul was lying to their audience. My money is on Jesus telling the truth. <smile>
The problem with Christian apologetics is that they can not take Jesus' word over Pauls and since the entire theology is predicated on Paul they have to align the two.
Thus the massive explanations instead of simply acknowledging that Paul was wrong.
That is the crux of Paulinism. Without Paul, modern Christianity would crumble if forced to rely on the teachings of the words of Jesus alone.
Perhaps, you didn't notice my mention, that our anointed Savior and Paul were referring to two different individuals. Our anointed Savior was referring to Father, while Paul was referring to our anointed Savior. The only way what you believe to be contradiction could actually be is if both, our anointed Savior and Paul, were talking about Father. But, they weren't.

It seems to me as if you're trying to push the so-called "trinity" doctrine to the front, as this would be the only way this alleged contradiction might hold. I say this, because repeatedly, you've said, paraphrased--yet quoted, that "Either God is a God of the Dead or God isn't." You're argument is based on a title, for starters, and one that's not even present in both verses. According to your contention, Paul would have to be referring to our anointed Savior while our anointed Savior, to himself, or our anointed Savior would have to referring to Father while Paul was referring to our anointed Savior as Father, as well. This is not the case, though. Our anointed Savior was referring to Father, as "God," while Paul, again, was referring to our anointed Savior, as "Lord." Even the fact that these titles of exaltation are shared doesn't justify the mere thought that Paul contradicted our anointed Savior.

Examine your contention again, my friend. Again, your contention only makes sense if the two are referring to the same individual, but they aren't. And unless you want to begin a debate to prove the existence of this alleged "trinity," then this is going to be a long debate, as I don't believe in any so-called "trinity."

Thank you for your time and consideration, my friend.

Until next time...

Shalowm.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470178 Dec 11, 2012
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GOOD MORNING

“To myself
I am only a child playing on the beach,
while vast oceans of Truth
lie undiscovered before me.”

~ Isaac Newton

Thought For The Day

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470179 Dec 11, 2012
Today's Prayer

Lord, Please help me overcome these old habits that jump up to haunt me. I want to be clean and pure in heart and life. I want my thoughts and actions to glorify you and to be a witness to your power and love. Thank you for hearing me and touching me with your power and grace. Through Your Holy Spirit, I will overcome. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.

Prime time with God

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470180 Dec 11, 2012
Encouraging Words....

“God blesses those who patiently endure testing and temptation. Afterward they will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.”

James 1:12

K-Love
endtime

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#470181 Dec 11, 2012
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“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470182 Dec 11, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
Hey LeLe! Hey Senacus!Hey Brother Lee, Hey Red Apples!......Good to see everyone. Also Hey Epi since I prob will not be around in the morning. And hey to everyone and anyone I missed that's around now(T) peace
H_E_Y....Steve-O....

Hope you and your family are doing well. Your nephew is at an age to really enjoy Christmas...Have a good one!!

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470183 Dec 11, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>How are you doing my friend? I have missed you. No I did not see it yet, only read the last page but plan on going back to do some catching up soon and will look for it. I have been real busy with work and the posting I have been doing has been elsewhere as I wandered off to have some discussions and debates and...be ready for the shock...to lace up the boxing gloves for a few rounds! I know..me right? Who woulda figured? LOL..But as it is getting closer to the holidays I have found myself missing here a lot more. I think I could use some time back with old friends and some much neededfellowship. I have much to be grateful for and want to spend my time focused on God now instead of petty squabbles on the internet.I love this time of year as in both real life and our little virtual online family we get to do some catching up(T) PEACE
I saw some of the "debates"....

Glad you are back...God Bless

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470184 Dec 11, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps, you didn't notice my mention, that our anointed Savior and Paul were referring to two different individuals. Our anointed Savior was referring to Father, while Paul was referring to our anointed Savior....
Agreed, Jesus believed in a single God while Paul believed in at least three....another contradiction.

There is only one God according to the first commandment and the entire OT. God is either God of the dead or God isn't God of the dead. Can't have it both ways without abbandoning monotheism. That was the whole reason for inventing "The Trinity" AKA "Godhead"(a Hindu concept).

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470185 Dec 11, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>.... This is not the case, though. Our anointed Savior was referring to Father, as "God," while Paul, again, was referring to our anointed Savior, as "Lord."....
Then Jesus is NOT God (agreed) and Paul does not believe that Jesus is God. That would destroy Christianity ! <snicker>

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#470186 Dec 11, 2012
Epiphany2 wrote:
Today's Prayer
Lord, Please help me overcome these old habits that jump up to haunt me. I want to be clean and pure in heart and life. I want my thoughts and actions to glorify you and to be a witness to your power and love. Thank you for hearing me and touching me with your power and grace. Through Your Holy Spirit, I will overcome. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.
Prime time with God
Amen.

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#470187 Dec 11, 2012
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Revelation 14:9&10
See Habakkuk 3:2
See Genesis 6:3&15:16&19:12&13 :2
See 2 chronicles 36:16
See Matthew 23:37&38
See Luke 19:42-44
See Peter 2:6
See Jude 7
Revelation 15:1
Daniel 12:1
See Ezekiel 7:15-19
See 1 Kings 18:17&18
See Ester 3:8-14
Revelation 22:11&12
See Zephaniah 2:1&2
See Revelation 15:8
See Revelation 16:11
See Revelation 18:7&8 and 16:5&6
See Revelation 14:10
See Revelation 16:5-7
Warning and unmixed Wrath
Seven last plagues
Revelation 16:2-10
See Joel 1:16-20
See Exodus 10:12-23
Revelation 16:12-19
Revelation 16:21
See Job 38:22&23
See Psalms 7:11-13
See Joel 3:16
See Jeremiah 25:30&31
See Haggai 2:21
See Hebrews 12:26
See Psalms 91:5-10
Revelation 18:4&5
See Genesis 19:12-17
See Jeremiah 51:6
Revelation 18:8-10
Seven plagues order

Amos 8:11&12
See Luke 13:25
See Proverbs 1:24-26
Hebrews 12:15-17
Revelation 16:17
See Genesis 1:28
See Haggai 1:7-11
See Isaiah 25:9
See 1 Kings 17:1
Psalms 91 and 46
See Isaiah33:13-17
Famine and Finish

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470188 Dec 11, 2012
Dear Brothers and Sisters...

1John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

It's understandable how some can misunderstand John's statement, as it would seem that John was declaring that sinning becomes impossible for those born of "God." But, this is a misunderstanding.

What John was explaining was what could (and perhaps, should) be expected by anyone that makes such a claim, that they're "born of God." As we examine this, we can see, easily, how John first mentions those that await further glorification, as "sons of God" and spirit-beings (vs. 2). At verse 3, John writes, "And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure." As we can see, there is a level of purification that takes place from within and performed by self, to become pure as our anointed Savior is pure. Then, John goes on to explain what the opposite of pure is. He begins by writing, "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." Then, he writes, "And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." Now, this doesn't mean that sin no longer exists, as some even believe and teach! No. Rather, when John wrote that our anointed Savior was manifested to take away our sins, John was sharing with us the fact that our anointed Savior came to us to teach us the spiritual aspects of the law, thereby teaching us how to defeat sin by halting the very thoughts of sin. In other words, if we don't entertain the mere thought of sin, then we make it impossible for sin to become manifest in our actions, reactions, and speech!

Continuing, John wrote, "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him." Here, we're given a comparison of those that, if you will, walk the walk, and those that don't. And again, we see a reference to a decision that we must make: either we choose to continue in sin, or not. Then, John writes about something that so many still refuses to believe today. He writes, "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous." Then, he writes, "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil." First, we see, again, a decision that we must make, and in a sense, the consequence of our decision. But, secondly, we see, again, the mention of our anointed Savior destroying these "works of the devil." Again, he destroyed these "works" by teaching us the spiritual application of the law. And this brings us to verse 9.

1John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The point to ponder is John's statement, that one that is born of "God" "cannont sin." This does not mean that some miraculous occurrence makes sinning impossible. This means that our desire to become further glorified overcomes our fleshly desires to the extent that we put on the whole armour of God, that we "may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand (Eph 6:13)." As it's said, "Practice makes perfect," and the more we focus on re-conditioning our hearts and minds by the teachings of our anointed Savior, the less we'll even entertain temptations. So, in conclusion, when we "cannot sin," this is because we refuse to sin! This is a decision that we must make, as our lives depend on it.

Thank you all for your time and consideration.

Until next time...

Shalowm.

Since: Oct 12

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#470189 Dec 11, 2012
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Revelation 16:2-10
See Joel 1:16-20
See Exodus 10:12-23
Revelation 16:12-19
Revelation 16:21
See Job 38:22&23
See Psalms 7:11-13
See Joel 3:16
See Jeremiah 25:30&31
See Haggai 2:21
See Hebrews 12:26
See Psalms 91:5-10
Revelation 18:4&5
See Genesis 19:12-17
See Jeremiah 51:6
Revelation 18:8-10
Seven plagues order
Amos 8:11&12
See Luke 13:25
See Proverbs 1:24-26
Hebrews 12:15-17
Revelation 16:17
See Genesis 1:28
See Haggai 1:7-11
See Isaiah 25:9
See 1 Kings 17:1
Psalms 91 and 46
See Isaiah33:13-17
Famine and Finish
Revelation 10:1&2
See Daniel 12:4-9
Revelation 10:7
See Esphesians 3:1-6
See Galatians 1:11&12
Revelation 10:8-10
See Luke 24:21
See Acts 1:6&7
Revelation 10:11
Finished

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470190 Dec 11, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
Agreed, Jesus believed in a single God while Paul believed in at least three....another contradiction.

There is only one God according to the first commandment and the entire OT. God is either God of the dead or God isn't God of the dead. Can't have it both ways without abbandoning monotheism. That was the whole reason for inventing "The Trinity" AKA "Godhead"(a Hindu concept).
What you're not understanding is that the term "God" is a title and shared by many. This is even proven in the law and as you've pointed out not a few times. In this, then it's appropriate to call our anointed Savior "God" while keeping in mind that he's not Father. In this, Paul did not believe in anything even similar to a so-called "trinity." If he did, I'd like to see your evidence.
G_O_D wrote:
Then Jesus is NOT God (agreed) and Paul does not believe that Jesus is God. That would destroy Christianity ! <snicker>
Christianity as we know it, yes. But, I'm sure Paul considered our anointed Savior to be "God" as far as the definition allows. Of a surety, though, Paul knew full well that Father and our anointed Savior are two, distinct individuals that share most titles.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470191 Dec 11, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>What you're not understanding is that the term "God" is a title and shared by many. This is even proven in the law and as you've pointed out not a few times.....
God said we are all gods (elohim) so in that respect Jesus is a god (elohim) as well. That does not make him or any of us God (El / YHWY).

Back to my original thesis, Jesus is not God and never claimed to be.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470192 Dec 11, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>... In this, Paul did not believe in anything even similar to a so-called "trinity." If he did, I'd like to see your evidence.....
I am just going by what Christians claim, there is little evidence to support that Paul knew anything about Jesus, Judaism or YHWY.

Since: Oct 12

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#470193 Dec 11, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I am just going by what Christians claim, there is little evidence to support that Paul knew anything about Jesus, Judaism or YHWY.
If you ever meet Paul.I of the opinion he gonna give you a piece of his mind and a knuckle sandwich right in the snocker of yours.

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