Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470154 Dec 10, 2012
Red Apples wrote:
<quoted text>
....The next time you sin will you lose your salvation again?
That question has been debated within Christendom for 1700 years.

One can make the scriptural arguement that salvation is lost (r in some case unatainable) due to unrepented sins.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470155 Dec 10, 2012
simplyput wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I do not go back .The old person, would not have repented.
The new me in Christ, when we sin,(no, not premeditated sinning)
when we sin, we can ask for forgiveness.
So then premeditated sins are eternally unforgivable, even with the utmost repentance ?

Interesting. A very Jewish concept.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470156 Dec 10, 2012
Greeting, salutations, and shalowm, to you...

Skombolis
Senecus
Red Apples
Qu_innocence
Le_le
G_O_D
lil whispers
simplyput

I hope I didn't leave anyone out.

Well, I have to call it a night. 5:00am wake up call, and it's already 12:40 here.

Until next time, all of you...

May the shalowm of our 'Elohiym remain with you and yours.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#470157 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for taking the time to post this.
I believe not one of us can know another man's heart and walk w God.
I believe not one of us will be left behind when all is said and done..
Maybe this seems unrealistic to you and your heart, to me
it's as real as it gets.
You can carry on with your beliefs and I will do the sameo
with mine..
As for Lawlest- I am just not comfortable identifying myself w his kind of
"Christianity".
Thanks again, wishing you the very best.
I have an interesting question for you, what exactly IS my kind of Christianity and what happens to be YOUR brand of "christianity"?

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#470158 Dec 10, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent question. Hey Q. I have to admit it is still my favorite subject of debate. I always try to read when it comes up, especially with a new poster like sp because there is always the chance I will see something new or hear something I want to use or take to heart. I am interested how someone might answer what you asked, especially if they include 1John 3:9 cause imo its about as deep as it gets since we are no longer controlled by sin and a new creation in Christ so why does one continue to sin and while we all pretty much concede man will continue to, is he supposed to and what does that mean for free will, predestination, the diff between deliberate sin, and whether man can know if he is on the rock and must we finish the race to be spared judgement? So many things your question touches on imo. good to see ya.(T) Peace
Hey Skom, good to see you also man... interesting questions to be sure and just taking one at a time if possible...

Apostle John: "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God." I John 3:9

Basically, we don't make a habit of sinning and we have a desire to please God... but then again, temptation and the flesh... and the choices we make (free will).

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470159 Dec 10, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>Okay. We're starting from #3 on the list.
First, we must take into account the context of what both men were discussing. Our anointed Savior was discussing the resurrection, while Paul was declaring who the ultimate judge is. Secondly, we must not neglect to realize that our anointed Savior was referring to Father, while Paul was referring to our anointed Savior.....
EDIT FOR SPACE ONLY
I disagree but respect your arguement and the thought put into it. It still doesn't resolve the Boolean impossibility. Either God is a God of the Dead or God isn't. The time and audience doesn't affect that. The contradiction still stands unless Jesus or Paul was lying to their audience. My money is on Jesus telling the truth. <smile>
The problem with Christian apologetics is that they can not take Jesus' word over Pauls and since the entire theology is predicated on Paul they have to align the two.
Thus the massive explanations instead of simply acknowledging that Paul was wrong.
That is the crux of Paulinism. Without Paul, modern Christianity would crumble if forced to rely on the teachings of the words of Jesus alone.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#470160 Dec 10, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
Greeting, salutations, and shalowm, to you...
Skombolis
Senecus
Red Apples
Qu_innocence
Le_le
G_O_D
lil whispers
simplyput
I hope I didn't leave anyone out.
Well, I have to call it a night. 5:00am wake up call, and it's already 12:40 here.
Until next time, all of you...
May the shalowm of our 'Elohiym remain with you and yours.
Shalowm my brother! we've (mostly I) have been pummeled with evil icons all day but I will survive, I will survive... how does that song go? lol Take bro, not too far from heading out myself.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#470161 Dec 10, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
Hey LeLe! Hey Senacus!Hey Brother Lee, Hey Red Apples!......Good to see everyone. Also Hey Epi since I prob will not be around in the morning. And hey to everyone and anyone I missed that's around now(T) peace
Hi guy!

Good to see you too.
Hope all is well.
:)
Did you see the "kay to Le le" post?? LOL.
I miss -yesterday- in here!

Thanks for the shout out..
Sending my best.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#470162 Dec 10, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Basically, we don't make a habit of sinning and we have a desire to please God... but then again, temptation and the flesh... and the choices we make (free will).
Hey Q...I agree it comes down to free will and imo think pretty much every choice boils down to giving in to the flesh or following the Spirit. If one went solely by 1John 3:9 in its strictest sense we would all be in rough shape but I think that is obviously why we compare scripture and look at it in its entirety to get the full picture. I personally think forgiveness is ongoing so long as repentance is ongoing which is would be if one continues to allow the Spirit to convict him. But if one basically says screw it and turns his back on God and returns to the world and unrepentant sin then he is no longer covered by the Sacrifice.Repentance cant be faked, not to God anyway so any preplanned deathbed confessions wont do the trick but God will always forgive those who r truly sorry imo (T) PEACE

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#470163 Dec 10, 2012
Hey G, Hey Lawest!

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#470164 Dec 10, 2012
Well folks, hope you guys and gals have a good early morning... it's been a looooong shift.

God loves you all... He loves us too much to let us stay where we are at.

:)

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#470165 Dec 10, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> I have an interesting question for you, what exactly IS my kind of Christianity and what happens to be YOUR brand of "christianity"?
Why is that an interesting question?

Your witness for God on topix is what I am referring to. Whether it be abortion, water baptism..and so on..you are:

Pompus selfrighteous and rude.
From how you speak of your pastor and church and the over the
top belief system there- you are simply following "suit"..

I do not consider myself to have a "brand" of Christianity.
Older in my walk w Christ than you think- I am sure.

Have studied and learned Scripture with some amazing people.
Not looking to be taught by you.
Happy in my walk..

Take care Lawlest- do not wish you harm- just can't stay on sidelines
when there is something dear to my heart being
trampled on.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#470166 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi guy!Good to see you too.Did you see the "kay to Le le" post?? LOL.I miss -yesterday- in here!Thanks for the shout out..Sending my best.
How are you doing my friend? I have missed you. No I did not see it yet, only read the last page but plan on going back to do some catching up soon and will look for it. I have been real busy with work and the posting I have been doing has been elsewhere as I wandered off to have some discussions and debates and...be ready for the shock...to lace up the boxing gloves for a few rounds! I know..me right? Who woulda figured? LOL..But as it is getting closer to the holidays I have found myself missing here a lot more. I think I could use some time back with old friends and some much neededfellowship. I have much to be grateful for and want to spend my time focused on God now instead of petty squabbles on the internet.I love this time of year as in both real life and our little virtual online family we get to do some catching up(T) PEACE

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470167 Dec 10, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Shalowm my brother! we've (mostly I) have been pummeled with evil icons all day but I will survive, I will survive... how does that song go? lol Take bro, not too far from heading out myself.
Ignore the icon fairies.

Except for me, I leave hearts. Get them while they last. <smile>

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470168 Dec 10, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Q...I agree it comes down to free will and imo think pretty much every choice boils down to giving in to the flesh or following the Spirit. If one went solely by 1John 3:9 in its strictest sense we would all be in rough shape but I think that is obviously why we compare scripture and look at it in its entirety to get the full picture. I personally think forgiveness is ongoing so long as repentance is ongoing which is would be if one continues to allow the Spirit to convict him. But if one basically says screw it and turns his back on God and returns to the world and unrepentant sin then he is no longer covered by the Sacrifice.Repentance cant be faked, not to God anyway so any preplanned deathbed confessions wont do the trick but God will always forgive those who r truly sorry imo (T) PEACE
Makes sense to me...then again I'm a heretic. LOL

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470169 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
....Pompus selfrighteous and rude.....
How dare you place my accolades on another ? LOL

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#470170 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is that an interesting question?
Your witness for God on topix is what I am referring to. Whether it be abortion, water baptism..and so on..you are:
Pompus selfrighteous and rude.
From how you speak of your pastor and church and the over the
top belief system there- you are simply following "suit"..
I do not consider myself to have a "brand" of Christianity.
Older in my walk w Christ than you think- I am sure.
Have studied and learned Scripture with some amazing people.
Not looking to be taught by you.
Happy in my walk..
Take care Lawlest- do not wish you harm- just can't stay on sidelines
when there is something dear to my heart being
trampled on.
Thank you, when you call me self righteous and pompous, I really take that as a compliment coming from you because it let me know that I must be doing something right before my Lord when I am standing on the fullness of his Word, and if these things bother you than I would suggest that you follow the Word suggestion to examine yourself to see rather you be in THE faith.

As for that which you call "over the top" ..........at the risk of sounding "pompous" and the "over the top" self righteous and perhaps self centered by your standards, I am already Blessed to be in that which has been established in the top of the mountains and exalted above the hills and pray that you and others will one day be likewise Blessed before exiting this life.

Have a Blessed night.

“Colleges Search Engine ”

Since: Mar 12

www.schoolanduniversity.com

#470171 Dec 10, 2012
Faith is everything. First believe in ourself then you can believe in GOD.

Have a Bless!!!!!!!!!
einstain

Castle Hill, Australia

#470172 Dec 11, 2012
RELIGION IS EXPRESSION OF WEAK MIND ,AND LAZY WAY OUT NOT ASKING QUESTION AND SEEKING THE TRUTH.

“Romans 8:1.”

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#470173 Dec 11, 2012
Red Apples wrote:
When you last sinned (and we all sin) did you lose your salvation?

Q wrote:
is there a difference between habitual, unrepentant sin and one who repents of sin?

Red Apples wrote:
The next time you sin will you lose your salvation again?

Q wrote:
Can one repent only one time?
_______

I see you completely avoided giving me a straight answer to my question Q. Responding to questions with questions is not answering questions Q.

Care to try again, or are you going to avoid answering again?

Because you claim a person can lose their salvation after they've been saved, so than tell us if you lost, and will lose, your salvation as per the questions I asked you?

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