Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470018 Dec 9, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
1. They took it out of context, didn't know the Jewish meaning of them and used a poor Greek translation instead of the Hebrew.
In my opinion, they didn't take it out of context, at all. They were, simply, showing how that Abraham's faith produced righteous thoughts, actions, reactions, and speech.

Genesis 26:2-5
And the LORD appeared unto [Isaac], and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:
Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

And what's your issue with the Septuagint?
G_O_D wrote:
2. They are innacurate, flawed and of limited use.
As to inaccurate, we need not look any further than what's written in the "Old Testament" accounts to determine if what you say is true, or not. Fortunately, these accounts are combined into one book, with our "New Testament" accounts.

As to their being of limited use, you're entitled to your opinion. I guess much depends on what you study primarily.
G_O_D wrote:
3. Genesis 22 was include in in my comment.
I noticed...after the fact. My mistake.
G_O_D wrote:
4. Because it is true. Most don;t even read the Bible for inspired illumination. They simply accept Paul's opinion as truth, even when it contradicts Jesus or the Hebrew Scriptures.
Show me where Paul contradicts, and I'll show you where we misunderstand Paul's writings.
G_O_D wrote:
5. Since I wasn't trained to acept the English Bible as perfect, I can read it without prejudice. It is full of errors, contradictions and lies. Jesus didn't write the Bible.
Neither was I trained. My studies have been strictly a solo mission, since the beginning of my studies and with only a few years exception. Therefore, I agree, that our English translations have errors. But, I don't depend solely on our English translations, either. I know better than that.
G_O_D wrote:
6. My apologies if you took that as directed at you. My point is that allegedly Paul's opinion is always right because he is inspired by the Holy Spirit. Thus, anyone inspired by the Holy Spirit has just as perfect an opinion.
Apology accepted. Thank you.

And that's only if you believe that every believer is truly inspired by the Holy Spirit as the authors of the bible were. I, personally, do not believe such a thing. I believe such a belief derives from the believer's unwavering trust and confidence in the English translators and their translations. I know that many don't recognize the discrepancy in putting such faith in these men.
G_O_D wrote:
IMHO Paul was no different than anyone else and his opinions are no more valid than Muhammad's. Both were men with an agenda and claimed to be speaking for God.
I know that you know that I have to disagree with you.

Again, many people, especially believers, grossly misunderstand Paul's writings, which atheists and skeptics take advantage of constantly. And even with this being the case, I find it rare for anyone to even consider reconsidering and examining what they've been taught regarding Paul's writings. Instead, pride and/or fear overcomes reason and logic. Pride for those that can't fathom the mere possibility that they might be mistaken, or deceived, and fear for those that can't fathom change. Even now, I've asked two questions, repeatedly, that still haven't been answered.

"Fear what?" Based on Philippians 2:12.

And "In James' statement, what differentiates devils and you?" Based on James 2:19.

Until next time...

Shalowm.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470019 Dec 10, 2012
~*~*~*~*~*

Morning....

“Do not regret growing older. It is a privilege denied to many.”

~ Author Unknown

Thought For The Day

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“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470020 Dec 10, 2012
Dear God,

Your Word gives us so much enlightenment and precious promises that we may trust and cling to. In John 12:26 "Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me." I come to you now and lift up my brothers and sisters in Christ who are so faithful to follow you in countries where they are persecuted for doing so. You have promised to honor them for believing in you and standing in faith. I pray that you will meet their every need. I pray for peace beyond understanding; for good health; for basic life needs of food, clothing, and shelter; for fellowship with other Christians; for protection from harm and evil; for opportunities to share the Gospel and witness your love in action; for the opportunity to read your Word; for happiness; for strength for the weak; for healing for the wounded; for a special touch upon their lives as their very lives are often in danger because they are Christians. God I love these precious people and my heart aches over the things they have suffered and face daily. Please carry them in the shelter of your power, your love, your protection. May the blood of Jesus cover them, cover us all, and keep us for that wonderful day of redemption to which we look forward. May your church live and prosper in every land. In Jesus' name I pray, amen.

Prime Time With God

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470021 Dec 10, 2012
Encouraging Words....

“The name of the Lord is a strong fortress; the godly run to him and are safe.”

Proverbs 18:10

K-Love

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#470022 Dec 10, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> There's nothing really to let go, this is a Christian based thread discussing an important subject, once saved always saved is not a Biblical teaching, as for my "payoff" it is called Eternal Life, and it will be mine so long as I maintain salvation through the obedience of God's Word.
I am referring to you "letting go" in the sense-
that, God can not be put in the box you and those likeminded
like you want to put Him into.

I wish for you that you would - let go and let God..-

You have no God given right to judge another man's soul-
or his destiny in the here ever after..

If you boast about any eternal >payoff< to your approach on
Salvation- then, my friend, you are --working-- too hard.

God doesn't need pompus- and neither does the world..
Lighten up.

ps. you can pass that along to your pastor also..

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470023 Dec 10, 2012
TIM958 wrote:
<quoted text>
I know u!!!!:^)
Who is SP Tim?

:-)

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470024 Dec 10, 2012
~*~*~*~*~*

Breath of Heaven....Amy Grant (I love this song)

http://youtu.be/3VyK8ftdF08

~*~*~*~*~*

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470025 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
I am referring to you "letting go" in the sense-
that, God can not be put in the box you and those likeminded
like you want to put Him into.
I wish for you that you would - let go and let God..-
You have no God given right to judge another man's soul-
or his destiny in the here ever after..
If you boast about any eternal >payoff< to your approach on
Salvation- then, my friend, you are --working-- too hard.
God doesn't need pompus- and neither does the world..
Lighten up.
ps. you can pass that along to your pastor also..
Hey Le_le....

Been a long time since we talked....Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas...

God Bless

(PS Seventies Chic had moved back into a brand new beautiful South Western style home...Gorgeous)

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#470026 Dec 10, 2012
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Have a great day everyone ....:-)

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Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#470027 Dec 10, 2012
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Le_le,
His preacher told him.
Is it cold at your house?
Supposed to be in the 80's here all week.
Are you ready for Ol Saint Nick?
Knock-knock ...
hu
It's a shame that people who think they are so on fire
for the Lord - are actually the ones putting out
any "flame" that might be started through Love and Grace..

I just have never bought into Militant Christianity..

St. Nick?? Why hu, you know he's not reeaalll..
Right??
You're gonna get all messed up!!
Yikes!

lol..

And- no not ready at all..

Have any Christmas recipes to share??
Is kay around?

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#470028 Dec 10, 2012
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Le_le....
Been a long time since we talked....Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas...
God Bless
(PS Seventies Chic had moved back into a brand new beautiful South Western style home...Gorgeous)
Hey there!

I bet she did!
Please pass on my Love to Seventies!!
:)

I miss you guys!

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#470029 Dec 10, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just wavin' at ya LeLe!
As always...it is good to see your upfront and from the heart words! LOL
Waving back at you Annie!

:)wanted to find this post of yours before signing off..

Like I said to Epi-- I miss all of you.

Wishing you a Merry and Bright day!
lol!
Seriously!

7576 do you play cribbage Annie??

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#470030 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
`
To LAWEST100, you said:

I am referring to you "letting go" in the sense-
that, God can not be put in the box you and those likeminded
like you want to put Him into.

I wish for you that you would - let go and let God..-

You have no God given right to judge another man's soul-
or his destiny in the here ever after..

If you boast about any eternal >payoff< to your approach on
Salvation- then, my friend, you are --working-- too hard.

God doesn't need pompus- and neither does the world..
Lighten up.

ps. you can pass that along to your pastor also..
__________

To hick-up, you said:

It's a shame that people who think they are so on fire
for the Lord - are actually the ones putting out
any "flame" that might be started through Love and Grace..

I just have never bought into Militant Christianity..
__________

Dearest Le_le...

Forgive me for my intrusion, but is it possible you're being a little hard on LAWEST100, having not, yourself, taken into consideration the gravity of the situation?

So you understand and as I agree, there's a grave danger in believing in this "once saved, always saved" doctrine." And I, like LAWEST100, project my concerns in my opposition. And why? Because, it's quite common for those that believe in such a doctrine to become lackadaisical, lukewarm, and unprofitable. And I'm sure that, like me, this is LAWEST100's main concern and not as to whether or not he's correct in his beliefs and assertions. With that being said, is LAWEST100, or even myself, thinking, acting, or reacting, any differently than Paul? Consider the following account, please and if you would be so kind.
__________

Acts 17:22-23, 30-31, 32-34

Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.
So Paul departed from among them.
Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.
__________

What, Le_le, would have been your reaction and response to Paul had you been present to hear his speech?

How do you think these men of Athens felt after hearing that they were "too superstitious" and that they "ignorantly worship" an "UNKNOWN GOD"?

How do you think these men of Athens felt after Paul told them that the one, true "God," that he was revealing to them, winked at their "ignorance"?

Do you think Paul was quenching their "fire," or trying to ignite one?

Would you have mocked him, desired to hear him again of the matter, or clave unto him and believed?

Would you have told Paul to "lighten up"?

The fact of the matter is, LAWEST100 and those like-minded are doing nothing that hasn't been done first by the apostles and disciples of the early Church.

Thank you for your time and consideration, Le_le. And have a blessed day.

Until next time...

May the shalowm of our 'Elohiym remain with you and yours.

1Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470032 Dec 10, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>....
And what's your issue with the Septuagint?....
It is a poor Greek translation that was never recognized by Jews as perfect. Only the Hebrew is considered Scripture.

The Septuagint is on the level of a 'Chinglish' instruction manual. It was only used as a guide for Jews who didn't speek Hebrew in Egypt.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#470033 Dec 10, 2012
Epiphany2 wrote:
Dear God,
Your Word gives us so much enlightenment and precious promises that we may trust and cling to. In John 12:26 "Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me." I come to you now and lift up my brothers and sisters in Christ who are so faithful to follow you in countries where they are persecuted for doing so. You have promised to honor them for believing in you and standing in faith. I pray that you will meet their every need. I pray for peace beyond understanding; for good health; for basic life needs of food, clothing, and shelter; for fellowship with other Christians; for protection from harm and evil; for opportunities to share the Gospel and witness your love in action; for the opportunity to read your Word; for happiness; for strength for the weak; for healing for the wounded; for a special touch upon their lives as their very lives are often in danger because they are Christians. God I love these precious people and my heart aches over the things they have suffered and face daily. Please carry them in the shelter of your power, your love, your protection. May the blood of Jesus cover them, cover us all, and keep us for that wonderful day of redemption to which we look forward. May your church live and prosper in every land. In Jesus' name I pray, amen.
Prime Time With God
Amen.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#470034 Dec 10, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>...Show me where Paul contradicts, and I'll show you where we misunderstand Paul's writings.....
Apologetics, the fine art of making the Bible say anything we want it too and make it seem perfect.

Basically a paint job over rust. The metal is still damaged but you can't see it.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#470035 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
I am referring to you "letting go" in the sense-
that, God can not be put in the box you and those likeminded
like you want to put Him into.
I wish for you that you would - let go and let God..-
You have no God given right to judge another man's soul-
or his destiny in the here ever after..
If you boast about any eternal >payoff< to your approach on
Salvation- then, my friend, you are --working-- too hard.
God doesn't need pompus- and neither does the world..
Lighten up.
ps. you can pass that along to your pastor also..
Good morning le le, yes I may pass this on to our pastors after all because I know that they do appreciate a good LAUGH. But btw, we believe what we do by the Word of God, and THAT is what jugdes condemns and/or justifies what you believe, live and practice.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#470036 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a shame that people who think they are so on fire
for the Lord - are actually the ones putting out
any "flame" that might be started through Love and Grace..
I just have never bought into Militant Christianity..u
St. Nick?? Why hu, you know he's not reeaalll..
Right??
You're gonna get all messed up!!
Yikes!
lol..
And- no not ready at all..
Have any Christmas recipes to share??
Is kay around?
Not only ol' saint Nick but your OSAS theology is just as unreal as well.
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#470037 Dec 10, 2012


Obama won the elections it´s no good.

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#470038 Dec 10, 2012
Le_le wrote:
St. Nick?? Why hu, you know he's not reeaalll..
Right??
Not Real!!! That's a lie made up by some ornery kid that never gets any good stuff.
You're gonna get all messed up!!
Yikes!
lol..
That's not news ...I've been messed up for a while.
And- no not ready at all..
Have any Christmas recipes to share??
Recipes ...me ...for you?? Yeah rite ...
Is kay around?
If I see her, I'll tell her to find you.

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