Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#469200 Dec 2, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
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Good morning Grace!
What do you consider..."loving all people"? How do you go about doing that and how do you show that love to others?
If all those people that you are loving does not feel that love...are they just blind or is there something possibly wrong with the love that you are showing?
Has the phrase "love your neighbor" been said so often that it has become a cliche? Have we come to depend on saying the words "love your neighbor" as a way to replace the action of "love your neighbor".
Just what is it to "love your neighbor".
From a Christians standpoint "loving your neighbor" includes concern for their salvation. I have to ask though...is that love shown by harassing...belittling...denig rating...your neighbor at all costs? Is that what Jesus meant?
Did he want you to use people's family...illnesses...past lives to beat them over the head until they submitted?
Did he instruct to call them every name in the book...wish them beaten, raped and murdered in order to scare them into believing?
Again...I will ask...what does it mean to "love your neighbor".
So much research has been done to figure out the hidden mysteries of the Bible...I can't help but wonder...how much time has been spent on trying to find out just how we are to "love your neighbor".
Personally...I find that first greatest commandment much easier to follow....the second much more difficult.
Matthew 5
46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
Luke 6
32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that.
***
These are my favorite passages in the Bible. I have read them so many times trying to incorporate them in to my own set of beliefs. It is difficult.
It is so easy to love those that love you...but it takes all that I have to love those that do not love me in return.
Matthew 22
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Have you ever wondered why it reads as it does? Why were the words "as yourself" included?
IMO it is telling us that before you can love your neighbor...you must first love yourself. If you do not...how can you even begin to follow that second greatest commandment? Then and only then can you love them as much.
Do you think...that some Christians will reflect on to others what they hate about themselves?
Verse 39 says...and the second is like it. IMO saying that the 2nd is as the lst...giving it equal importance...as if to say...you can not truly do one without the other.
Does "love" on include being concerned about their salvation...or does it also include kindness...compassion...forgiv eness...
What did Jesus mean when he said..."as yourself"?
Maybe what is wrong...we have a whole world full of people that can not love themselves.
Maybe that is where that saying came from that you have to love yourself before you can love someone else.
Okay..out of room...sorry.:-(
Good Morning Annie,
You ask a very important question and as i have said many times before; I admire the way you think. IMHO, Yes, We have to love ourself in order to love others. However, Once I learn to love myself, I should put the concerns of others before my own. Thats not always easy to do. The salvation of others is very important to a Christian but without showing kindness, compassion, sympathy and empathy first; then what evidence of Christ are we showing to someone whose salvation is in question?

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#469201 Dec 2, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Good Morning Annie,
You ask a very important question and as i have said many times before; I admire the way you think. IMHO, Yes, We have to love ourself in order to love others. However, Once I learn to love myself, I should put the concerns of others before my own. Thats not always easy to do. The salvation of others is very important to a Christian but without showing kindness, compassion, sympathy and empathy first; then what evidence of Christ are we showing to someone whose salvation is in question?
Yeap, as the Bible points out without charity we are as a sounding brass and a tinkerling symbol.

Since: Sep 12

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#469202 Dec 2, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Good morning Grace!
What do you consider..."loving all people"? How do you go about doing that and how do you show that love to others?
If all those people that you are loving does not feel that love...are they just blind or is there something possibly wrong with the love that you are showing?
Has the phrase "love your neighbor" been said so often that it has become a cliche? Have we come to depend on saying the words "love your neighbor" as a way to replace the action of "love your neighbor".
Just what is it to "love your neighbor".
From a Christians standpoint "loving your neighbor" includes concern for their salvation. I have to ask though...is that love shown by harassing...belittling...denig rating...your neighbor at all costs? Is that what Jesus meant?
Did he want you to use people's family...illnesses...past lives to beat them over the head until they submitted?
Did he instruct to call them every name in the book...wish them beaten, raped and murdered in order to scare them into believing?
Again...I will ask...what does it mean to "love your neighbor".
So much research has been done to figure out the hidden mysteries of the Bible...I can't help but wonder...how much time has been spent on trying to find out just how we are to "love your neighbor".
Personally...I find that first greatest commandment much easier to follow....the second much more difficult.
Matthew 5
46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
Luke 6
32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that.
***
These are my favorite passages in the Bible. I have read them so many times trying to incorporate them in to my own set of beliefs. It is difficult.
It is so easy to love those that love you...but it takes all that I have to love those that do not love me in return.
Matthew 22
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied:“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Have you ever wondered why it reads as it does? Why were the words "as yourself" included?
IMO it is telling us that before you can love your neighbor...you must first love yourself. If you do not...how can you even begin to follow that second greatest commandment? Then and only then can you love them as much.
Do you think...that some Christians will reflect on to others what they hate about themselves?
Verse 39 says...and the second is like it. IMO saying that the 2nd is as the lst...giving it equal importance...as if to say...you can not truly do one without the other.
Does "love" on include being concerned about their salvation...or does it also include kindness...compassion...forgiv eness...
What did Jesus mean when he said..."as yourself"?
Maybe what is wrong...we have a whole world full of people that can not love themselves.
Maybe that is where that saying came from that you have to love yourself before you can love someone else.
Okay..out of room...sorry.:-(
Hi, Sorry, I ran out of room on the other post. Whenever i first became a Christain, I had a problem with this verse also. How was I suppose to love a stranger the same way that I loved my sister, spouse, parents and children?? I love all of them but not in the same way. I finally learned that the word "LOVE" in our English language is not expressed as well as the Greeks use this word.I will run out of room before I can explain so I will post on another page..

Since: Sep 12

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#469203 Dec 2, 2012
Continued!!

The Greek vocabulary has 4 different words to describe LOVE...I will name them with their definition.

1- Storge..Parent type Love

2-Eros..Romantic type love..love between the sexes.

3-Philia- Brotherly love..type of love between siblings or really close friends.

4- Agape (a- gop-a) Speaking of Love in it's true Christian sense. Agape love is not always an emotion or sentiment but an act of the will. For this reason, Agape love can be commanded. Agape say's I love you-regardless!! One cannot command emotions. Emotions cannot always be controlled or directed, but since this kind of love is primarily an act of the will and the mind, It can be commanded. Agape is a divine love that scriptures teach can only come from God.

After learning this and understanding the difference in HOW I can love strangers as much as my own family, It became easier to tell others that "I love (agape) them. The longer that I am around other people, then thats when I can have more compassion, forgiveness and even a deeper philia type love for them. I wished our English language had a broader definition for the word LOVE..SO, I Agape You Annie :)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#469204 Dec 2, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
Continued!!
The Greek vocabulary has 4 different words to describe LOVE...I will name them with their definition.
1- Storge..Parent type Love
2-Eros..Romantic type love..love between the sexes.
3-Philia- Brotherly love..type of love between siblings or really close friends.
4- Agape (a- gop-a) Speaking of Love in it's true Christian sense. Agape love is not always an emotion or sentiment but an act of the will. For this reason, Agape love can be commanded. Agape say's I love you-regardless!! One cannot command emotions. Emotions cannot always be controlled or directed, but since this kind of love is primarily an act of the will and the mind, It can be commanded. Agape is a divine love that scriptures teach can only come from God.
After learning this and understanding the difference in HOW I can love strangers as much as my own family, It became easier to tell others that "I love (agape) them. The longer that I am around other people, then thats when I can have more compassion, forgiveness and even a deeper philia type love for them. I wished our English language had a broader definition for the word LOVE..SO, I Agape You Annie :)
In American English,'agape' is most often epressed with the term "unconditional love".
Doctor REALITY

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#469206 Dec 2, 2012
Hi,Mrs. Grace. You doing o.k. today?

Since: Oct 12

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#469207 Dec 2, 2012
hick-up wrote:
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Hey J,
Perhaps it's too simple.
IOW, life is about hands ...keep one close and extend the other.
While waiting for Sears to open this morning (noon on Sunday) I went to the donut shop for an apple fritter and a cinnamon bun then out by KSC to look at the water and enjoy. As usual I ended up sharing with the local birds ...crows, blackbirds, and those ones like OYE put on u-tube. Anyway, I was sitting in my pickup holding a peice of c-bun out the window and they would take it straight from my fingers ...some even landed on my hand for a few seconds. It was neat.
Chiming in and taking a moment of your time to speak of those beautiful critters.Every notice not a cross word between them every notice there manners in that type of situations.Every notice they come and go like the wind.Always with the most gentel landing on a arm or hand or shoulder.if you hum real soft at them they will stay longer on arm or hand longer mostly out of curiousity.
Just sharing with you here is all as each experience with them is never repeatable in a lifetime.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#469208 Dec 2, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, Sorry, I ran out of room on the other post. Whenever i first became a Christain, I had a problem with this verse also. How was I suppose to love a stranger the same way that I loved my sister, spouse, parents and children?? I love all of them but not in the same way. I finally learned that the word "LOVE" in our English language is not expressed as well as the Greeks use this word.I will run out of room before I can explain so I will post on another page..
LOL Grace you can just delete part of my post instead of reposting all of it. At this rate...it could take a while.

I know that I asked a lot of questions but they were questions that I asked myself.

Yes...I do agree that we often confuse love and what that means. However...that makes no difference as to what we think it means...what did Jesus mean when he said to "love".

Obviously that gets interpreted differently also or people are just confused as to what he meant. You and I both know that there are those out there that say they are "loving their neighbor" by beating them over the head with their Bible.

Since: Sep 12

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#469209 Dec 2, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
In American English,'agape' is most often epressed with the term "unconditional love".
Exactly my friend...Thats the way we should all love.:) thanks G
Doctor REALITY

United States

#469210 Dec 2, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> No "doctor" yours, didn't you read the scripture saying "those who were partakers of the HOLY GHOST" meaning backsliders, ask God to give you the ability to rightly divine the scriptures.
Why are you os insecure about your salvation?? Do you still like to party,every now and then? Do you still like to drink and smoke every now and then?? Are you still 'peeping' at porn every now and then?? Still cussing and swearing?? Not tithing like you're supposed to? What is it that you're still having trouble with that makes you think that YOU,AND YOUR POST-SALVATION WORKS,will have the last say in whether,or not,you make it into heaven?? I'm not suggesting that accepting the Cross is a 'green-light to sin',because it's NOT. But what I am saying is that yu need to stop and REALIZE that your sin-nature is still alive in your life,and it won't be totally removed from your being until after you leave this current world. Therefore,you should ONLY,and TOTALLY,put ALL of your trust in the Lord,and not in your 'FEARS'.

Since: Sep 12

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#469211 Dec 2, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Hi,Mrs. Grace. You doing o.k. today?
I am doing great Dr..How are you? I was ask to speak in church today and was extemely nervous. I teach the children sign language and we singed to some songs. I love doing that but I have a fear of standing in front of a lot of people but I ask God for strength and boldness..I made it through it all..LOL..Maybe if I continue doing that, I won't be so nervous next time. I hope you have a great week and God Bless You
Doctor REALITY

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#469212 Dec 2, 2012
Ya'll see those Pittsburgh Steelers uniforms out there on CBS right now??! Now those are the REAL Steelers uniforms!!! Unlike those 'bumblebee' uniforms they had on recently. The ones they got on right now are the 'classics' from the Terry Bradshaw,Lynn Swann,Mean Joe Green,and Jack Lambert days!!!

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#469213 Dec 2, 2012
"The mouth of the righteous speaks wisdom, And his tongue talks of justice. The law of his God is in his heart" (Psalm 37:30,31).

"Your word I have hidden in my heart, That I might not sin against You" (Psalm 119:11).

"The Kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21)

Seems God's word isn't in a book at all.

Since: Sep 12

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#469214 Dec 2, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL Grace you can just delete part of my post instead of reposting all of it. At this rate...it could take a while.
I know that I asked a lot of questions but they were questions that I asked myself.
Yes...I do agree that we often confuse love and what that means. However...that makes no difference as to what we think it means...what did Jesus mean when he said to "love".
Obviously that gets interpreted differently also or people are just confused as to what he meant. You and I both know that there are those out there that say they are "loving their neighbor" by beating them over the head with their Bible.
LOL, I know Annie, but I would rather not edit what someone say's. No way do I believe we should beat someone over the head with our bibles..haha, That even sounded funny to me. I have had a few run ins with the "extreme religionist" Christians on here over this very thing. I love to quote scripture if I have the opportunity but I hate when people belittle someone with Gods Word or condemn them to hell if they break a commandment and especially dislike seeing a Christian spew hate in the name of God. We are all human and get angry at times, I am especially guilty for that but a Christian is suppose to be quick to listen and slow to speak. The one thing that I don't like about chatrooms is the fact that the listener cannot hear the compassion coming from the writer. The reader can take the words in any tone that they desire. Sometimes unintentionally, but they miss the whole point in general..Does that make sense? <<<<proves my point, i guess. LOL
Doctor REALITY

United States

#469215 Dec 2, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
<quoted text>
I am doing great Dr..How are you? I was ask to speak in church today and was extemely nervous. I teach the children sign language and we singed to some songs. I love doing that but I have a fear of standing in front of a lot of people but I ask God for strength and boldness..I made it through it all..LOL..Maybe if I continue doing that, I won't be so nervous next time. I hope you have a great week and God Bless You
I remember the first time I was asked to give a speech in front of a congregation back in my early twenties. I didn' want to do it,but some friends of mine,and the pastor,just about wouldn't take 'no' for an answer. A few days before the speech,they kept buggin' me to make sure I didn't try to back out. When 'the Zero Hour' finally arrived,I gotta' tell you,I thought I was going to start 'pee peein'' in my suit. I'm just being for REAL. Anyway,my speech lasted about five minutes,and I couldn't WAIT to get out from in front of that congregtion. I was just glad to be able to sit back down. But the applause kept going and going and going. Yeah,it was a good feeling.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#469216 Dec 2, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
In American English,'agape' is most often epressed with the term "unconditional love".
duuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh!!

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#469217 Dec 2, 2012
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey J,
Perhaps it's too simple.
IOW, life is about hands ...keep one close and extend the other.
*
I am thinking about this.

My thoughts are along the lines of those that withdraw their hands...in other words pick and choose who we extend it to.

I will have to think some more.

I have used my allotted time here however...if I stay longer...might start having bricks thrown at me! LOL

Since: Sep 12

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#469218 Dec 2, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>I remember the first time I was asked to give a speech in front of a congregation back in my early twenties. I didn' want to do it,but some friends of mine,and the pastor,just about wouldn't take 'no' for an answer. A few days before the speech,they kept buggin' me to make sure I didn't try to back out. When 'the Zero Hour' finally arrived,I gotta' tell you,I thought I was going to start 'pee peein'' in my suit. I'm just being for REAL. Anyway,my speech lasted about five minutes,and I couldn't WAIT to get out from in front of that congregtion. I was just glad to be able to sit back down. But the applause kept going and going and going. Yeah,it was a good feeling.
Haha. Thats how I felt today. It seems easy whenever you are on the other side of that pulpit. The lighting is different and it seemed harder to read too. I have been teaching Sunday School for a while and feel really comfortable doing that. I will have to start appreciating Public Speakers more. They have a tough job.:)

Since: Sep 12

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#469221 Dec 2, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Yeap, as the Bible points out without charity we are as a sounding brass and a tinkerling symbol.
Hi, I am not sure if you like contemporary christian music but if you do, listen to this song..it speaks exactly of what you just said. It reminded me of this song..I hope you enjoy it..especially when he starts talking instead of singing..awesome message

Doctor REALITY

United States

#469222 Dec 2, 2012
Grace Walker wrote:
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Haha. Thats how I felt today. It seems easy whenever you are on the other side of that pulpit. The lighting is different and it seemed harder to read too. I have been teaching Sunday School for a while and feel really comfortable doing that. I will have to start appreciating Public Speakers more. They have a tough job.:)
Well,some of them are more interested in making it more of a 'show' than trying to focus on leading souls to the Lord.

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