Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#468187 Nov 24, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
Good morning everyone, just found out this morning that actor Larry Hagman passed at age 81 who was famous for playing the notorious J.R. Ewing on tv's Dallas.
Good Morning Bro. Scott... oh yes, he was a brilliant actor...

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#468188 Nov 24, 2012
REVELATION

Rev 1:6 (part 1)

"...and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father -- to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."

1. Okay, so "Who" has made us a kingdom & priests to serve "His" God & Father?

a. Well, let's look at the preceding verse again, Rev 1:5 -

"and from Jesus Christ, Who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by His blood."

b. So the answer to the question Jesus Christ... He has made us a Kingdom & Priests to server who? "His" God & Father. So Jesus is acknowledging His Father as His God. Hmmmm, interesting.

2. Keep in mind that what they called Kingdom back then is now commonly referred to as nation... in most countries anyways. I believe Jordan and Saudi Arabia still refer to themselves, internally, as Kingdoms.

a. God had said the same thing about Kingdom & Priests previously to Moses to forward that message to the rest of the Israelis in Exodus 19:6

b. The Apostle Peter also referred to Believers as a "holy nation" & a "royal priesthood" in I Peter 2:5 and 2:9.

3. So what are you trying to say Quin? I am saying that according the verses above... and especially from Revelations.... you, I and all other genuine Believers in Jesus Christ not only do we make up The True Church... but we are a Holy Nation to God. Not only are we a Nation of Believers from God's standpoint... but we are also royalty... "a royal priesthood."

1. Well, you may say, "I don't feel like royalty." It has nothing to do with how you feel is what The Holy Spirit inspired scriptures says that you are... God is working on our internal characteristics... like faith, virtue, humility, knowledge and the Praise of God, etc. And if it takes a "furnace" of affliction for our internal character to yield pure gold, I mean, purity of spirit... then so be it. The scriptures says that all creation is waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God to be revealed. Not just sons but the daughters also.

a. Now I'm not saying that one has to go around and brag... and tell everyone they are a Priest. That would be boastful & prideful... I'm just saying in this teaching concerning nation and priesthood that as a man thinks in his heart so is he.

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#468189 Nov 24, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
Good Morning to all my topix friends, frienemies and enemies... smile, God loves you.
Hi Q;

You know what they say when the dragon turns up the heat.
And tries to destroy the flowers growing amoung the weeds
Don' feed it,but turn it over to God in prayer to tame the beast of
prediation for all will fall just like humpy dumpty off the
wall.So the fire will flame but the flame burneth out and perish.
Smile and have a good day.

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#468190 Nov 24, 2012
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Q;
You know what they say when the dragon turns up the heat.
And tries to destroy the flowers growing amoung the weeds
Don' feed it,but turn it over to God in prayer to tame the beast of
prediation for all will fall just like humpy dumpty off the
wall.So the fire will flame but the flame burneth out and perish.
Smile and have a good day.
Good Morning LW... Amen to that. The devil knows that his time is short.

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#468191 Nov 24, 2012
Rev 1:6 (Part 2)

"...and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father -- to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."

1. I understand that this "holy nation" & "priesthood" thing isn't what most have been previously taught so it is difficult to accept this notion. I came from Catholic beginnings so I understand that it is extremely hard to comprehend this as we were taught to value a certain structure within catholic society. Pretty much the same in Protestant circles.

a. While there should be decency & order in The Church at-large, we ought to be careful to not exalt a man above measure while at the same time honoring leadership in such a way that would only bring glory to The Father... that is, the brethren dwelling together in unity. Also commonly called now-a-days ---> Teamwork!

2. Now just like there was a High Priest (Aaron and his descendents) and priests in the levitical order (The Law of Moses)... so does the Melchizidekian High Priest (Jesus) have His priests in the Melchizidek order. So we too, being children of God are after that same order... under the High Priest of course within that Melchizedkian order.

a. The levitical order was ruled by a strict code of law and regulations of who could be high priest or priest... so everyone in the nation of Israel could not fully participate in the tabernacle or temple.... but in the Melchizedek order all that is required is faith in Jesus Christ. And by faith I'm talking about genuine faith. And there is so much Grace that one could even boldly go into the Most Holy Place (throne of Grace). In the levitical order, if the High Priest made one wrong move in The Holy Place of the Tabernacle... He would be killed. Under Grace, that is, the Melchizedek order we are free to approach God the Father through the name His Son... His Son being our High Priest... think of Jesus as a Power-of-Attorney, so-to-speak.

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#468192 Nov 24, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
To "Zen Master Ein" in the "Prove there's a god" thread, in the "Top Stories Forum."
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>These people seem to know you, and well.
If you're who I think you are, and who the above posters believe you are, then I know exactly what it was I did to you, and it's nothing, at all, to repent of.
You wouldn't happen to be "LIes Busters," would you?
There are a lot of posts I want to respond to but when I have the time to do so properly. I only had a few minutes and just wanted to check in and catch up on the reading but felt compelled to reply to this.

Most have seen stalkers of every variety on Topix. By the very nature of what they do, credibility is always an issue since they would have motivation to lie. And given how they decide to use their time, their judgement is already suspect. If it was about someone I didn't know I would take any information with a grain of salt and wait and see for myself. When it is someone I do know, I certainly don't need someone else's input.

I wouldn't give these posts another thought brother. I don't think anybody is going to take them seriously. The fact that someone would stalk you and attempt to slander you over your interpretation of scripture shows me how lost that person really is. I am so tired of people justifying their behavior to others or themselves with these delusions of grandeur and rationalizations that they are acting on God's behalf or in God's defense. Someone can't do either unless they are in obedience to the commandments.

Stalking and attacking someone simply over their interpretation of scripture..just when I thought i had seen it all.

Oh, lastly wanted to clear something up for anybody who doesn't know what wearing "wife-beaters" means.It is simply a style of T-shirt that people refer to as that because for whatever reason people think the way someone look like a wife-beater. There obviously is no actual link.

Have a great day brother, good to see ya.

(T) Peace

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#468193 Nov 24, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
Good morning everyone, just found out this morning that actor Larry Hagman passed at age 81 who was famous for playing the notorious J.R. Ewing on tv's Dallas.
That's too bad. I always enjoyed him as an actor

I saw an interview with him saying people hated his character so much on Dallas that they would come up and literally spit on him in the street. He joked "how is it nobody remembers me on "I dream Of Jeanie"?. He had as unstable as people may be to blur the line between reality and TV that he took it as a compliment to his acting ability that he was that convincing in the role.

(T) Peace

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There

#468194 Nov 24, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed!
I would blame Paul and John for the entire mess that came up long after Jesus was gone.
G_O_D, have you ever thought about this?
The NT should have been full of letters or teachings of the eleven or twelve disciples, instead of Paul's letters.
I believe Paul came out of the blue and filled the vacuum left by Jesus and all the disciples, who had fled. The man did not even discuss what Jesus taught and what did he preach.
Any thoughts on this?
I believe that following the destruction of Judea and the diaspora the followers carried the teachings when they fled but starting with Constantine they were exterminated.

There is something rong with a colection of books that is predominantly the teachings of a self proclaimed Apostle that was not a Jew, never met Jesus and knew nothing about Jesus or Judaism.

AS for John, it is filled with paganism and when it does mention Judaism it gets it 100% wrong. For exampe, the belief that claiming to be the messiah is blasphemy. Considering that there were many Jews who claimed to be the messiah (Simon bar Kokhba for example) that weren't condemned to death, proves John is dead wrong.

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#468195 Nov 24, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
<quoted text>... the most High that declared, "Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High (Psa 82:6)." It's this same exact Psalm our anointed Savior quoted while contending with the religious leaders of Israel. To become a god simply means that we adopt the righteous nature of our Godhead and become a reflection of them.....
Correction; that is your interpretation of that verse.

It explicitly says we are all Elohim and Sons of God. In that Psalm we are all declared to be exactly what Christianity says Jesus is.

It is strange that the OT explicitly and unambiguously declares us all Gods and Sons of God but you have to play a million word games to try to prove that Jesus is a God and Son of God.

All you need to prove Jesus is God and a Son of God is Psalm 82:6. You would have to admit that you and even people you hate are also Gods and Sons of God.

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#468196 Nov 24, 2012
REVELATION

Rev 1:6 (part 3)

"...and has made us to be a kingdom and priests TO SERVE HIS GOD AND FATHER-- to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."

1. Actually, most translations says "His God and Father" while the King James style of English would say "unto God and His Father"... The Greek would say "...the God and Father of Him".

2. Well, how can God be God's father if God has no Father? I think we've been tripping over these type of gym-, I mean, linguistics for some time now because our understanding of English doesn't always translate to other styles of english... not to mention the transitioning from language to language. But Jesus is obviously God the Son AKA Son of God.... so yes, Jesus is God but He is not God the Father. The verse above points to this distinction. And we already know that Jesus is the Son of Man... again, Jesus is mixed.

3. He is just like His Father. Did you ever hear that expression used before? Jesus is the spitting image of His Father in word and in deed. So Praise God, it is hard to tell them apart with the exception that God the Son became a man. They are One in agreement but Jesus even acknowledges His Father's greatness. Jesus said that His Father is Greater than He is... He spoke about His Father as if He was someone else... and God the Father spoke about His Son as if He was someone else apart from Him also.

3. So where is Mama? I'm not talking about Mary in the flesh who was the surrogate who gave birth to Jesus... because what is born of water (earthly mother) and born of the Spirit (spiritual mother) is completely different. What's flesh is flesh and what's spirit is spirit. Mama is more introverted but we see her at work and mentioned all the time within the Scriptures.

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#468197 Nov 24, 2012
Edit: 3 to "4"... smile
Gstspkr

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#468198 Nov 24, 2012
Just Wondering wrote:
I'm human and without thinking, I probably sin once or twice a day. One of my worst is impatience. Another is gossip. Let's face it, we all gossip and sometimes don't even realize we're doing it, like "did you hear about so and so whos name is in the paper" and that's after it's been passed along nine or ten times. Another is envy, especially when I hear of someone who has won the lottery and I think "Why them instead of me?" Laziness is another. I find myself picking up the tv remote instead of picking up the Bible and searching for the answer to a question that is bothering me and asking for guidance. I could go on and on but in my heart, Jesus and God are very important to me and I feel that I am loved in spite of the fact that I have to apologize to Him every day, sometimes more than once even though I feel in my heart that I don't deserve the love and peace that follow. Anyhow, JMHO. Blessings to all, I for one am going to work on those that I have mentioned and hopefully be a better person for it.
I'm proud to call you brother. Ephesians 6:13-14
Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness.
Galatians 5:16
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
We all unfortunately, still choose to lapse back, but during the worst time of my life, I discovered 3 things that really helped: 1. Love The Lord with all your heart, mind, soul and strength (Luke 10:27) 2. Confess your sins to God ( 1 John 1:9 ) and finally 3. Praise him, rejoice, and give thanks wholeheartedly ( 1 Thes.5:16-17 ).

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#468199 Nov 24, 2012
Well folks, I just wanted to catch up on the Revelations study...
bmz

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#468200 Nov 24, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe that following the destruction of Judea and the diaspora the followers carried the teachings when they fled but starting with Constantine they were exterminated.

There is something rong with a colection of books that is predominantly the teachings of a self proclaimed Apostle that was not a Jew, never met Jesus and knew nothing about Jesus or Judaism.

AS for John, it is filled with paganism and when it does mention Judaism it gets it 100% wrong. For exampe, the belief that claiming to be the messiah is blasphemy. Considering that there were many Jews who claimed to be the messiah (Simon bar Kokhba for example) that weren't condemned to death, proves John is dead wrong.
Thanks for your thoughts.

I find your second and third paras very striking. It is quite obvious that the writers of the New Testament did not really and truly know Judaism at all.

For example, the Baptism given by John, was not a common practice among the mainstream Jews at all and it was not a requirement that every Jew had to be dipped in the Jordan.

Also, no messiah was promised to the Jews by God.

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#468201 Nov 24, 2012
Just Wondering wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.
On a friends computer and wanted to wish everyone a blessed day. Don't forget the critters with winter coming and most important, for me anyhow, send a plate of thanksgiving dinner to those around who are less fortunate.
Peace and punkins
Hey JW, a Happy "be-lated" Thanksgiving to you as well. I hope you can get the time to be on your friend's computer a little more. I didn't get a chance to do that this particular Thanksgiving but it's not too late. Have a Blessed Day and hope your Thanksgiving was enjoyable. Smile, God loves you.

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#468202 Nov 24, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. If the Gnostic texts are taken literally they make no sense. However, as allegorical lessons they do.
If you see upper and lower Sophia (wisdom) as seperating secular and spiritual understanding, then it make a bit of sense... and not very heretical at all.
Good Morning G... I don't agree with the gnostics version at all. They believe that lower sophia wanted to get in touch with the Bythos (the unknown god... not my God)... she couldn't get a hold of him, got mad and created my God. Then the lower sophia got scared at what she created and threw my God past the far reaches of what the gnostics call the pleroma... and then she put a shield up so that this supposed creation didn't know about any other being besides him... the gnostics call my God the demiurge or better translated in paraphrase ---> the evil angel or devil... and they believe that all matter that God created is evil.

They believe Jesus is a consort of the higher sophia... some gnostics have different interpretations.

But what they call a demiurge or evil angel... I call Him God the Father The Most High God... so in my own view I believe that gnostics are heretical... and I'm sure in others' view, I'm heretical also, smile.

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#468203 Nov 24, 2012
hick-up wrote:
Ya'll can thank River Spirit next time you see her for this. It's very moving ...
http://www.godtube.com/watch/...
Praise God!

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#468204 Nov 24, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Just a thought, the feminine is often associated as the giver of life and, in Genesis, it is 'Ruach'(spirit/breath og God) that makes 'nephesh'(living things/souls) from the clay of the earth.
A femenine attribute of The Creator. IMHO God is neother male nor female but has aspects that can be descibed in human terms as "gender roles".
Hope that made sense, Quin.
I understand your view on it... I believe that the same God who said "Let US create man(kind) in our image..." was simply a family talking amongst themselves who put thought into action. "They" worked on the project together.

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#468205 Nov 24, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
@Q....I see what you are saying. I thought you were saying the Greek word properly translated would indicate a feminine gender but you aren't questioning the translation but rather that even though it denotes male now that at one point it would have been female and then over the years it was changed from female to nuetral to male and that is why modern translation is male. Or correct me if I am not understanding..
Exactly... in went from hebrew 'Ruach'(feminine) to ---> greek 'pnuema'(no gender) to ---> latin 'spiritus'(masculine)... but when they rewrote it into english from latin and from greek sources they kept the masculine tense of the word... even though in Greek it could have translated to either she, he or it... but originally Ruach is referring to a feminine source.
Skombolis wrote:
I can see the basis for a cultural argument, whether or not it actually happened I dont know. I have been somewhat undecided for about a year in terms of exactly how the relationship between the Holy Spirit and the Father works just because in the OT it was pretty much just the Spirit of God. But in the NT there are verses about witnessing in the name of all 3 or Mary being with child due to the Holy Ghost descending on her.
The Power from on High is The Father... the same operation (in a physical sense) which happened between Abraham, Sarah & Hagar is the same thing which happened between the Father, The Holy Spirit & Mary (in a spiritual sense) but Jesus takes on a dual perspective when it comes to Ishmael & Isaac. Jesus is wearing both hats so to speak. On one hand He is seen as Ishmael as He nails the law to the cross (casting the bondwoman & her son, hagar & Ishmael, out)... and at another point He is seen as Isaac who is willing to be sacrificed. So Jesus is fulfilling two roles there. I think Abram means High Father or exalted Father by the way if my memories serves me correctly...

So anyways, Hagar was the surrogate just like Mary was. In Abrahamic times, if a woman couldn't get pregnant she could have her unmarried servant become the secondary wife (concubine) of the main wife's husband. The main wife would have to be present as the "transference" of the seed took place and the child born would be seen as being the child of the main wife. But it didn't work out that way in Hagar's case because Hagar rebelled. Also, Hagar was an Egyptian... Egypt is symbolic of the world. Mary was of the world also and Mary's name means rebellion. Mary didn't rebel but Israel did because The Law made Israel more rebellious because now they knew what God wanted... they didn't follow through which made them even worst off. That is why The Messiah was sent to fulfill the law, nail it to the Cross through His Body and take The Law out of the way...

I was hesitant in sharing the above with you because of the naysayers... but when you get the chance please look at Galations 4:21-31.
Skombolis wrote:
You also have Jesus praying to the Father when baptized when the Holy Spirit descended on Him. Id be curious to read the first verses in the OT that mention the Spirit. part1of2
Sure.

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#468206 Nov 24, 2012
@skom, btw, we also see this main wife/cocubine/surrogate operation between Rachel & Leah as they also gave their own servants to Jacob to get a child.... and some of those children from those servants became some of the tribes of Israel.

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