I'm afraid I'm not completely understanding you. If I am, then I'm afraid I can't agree with you, entirely.To BROTHER LEE LOVE:
Have to respond in this manner for space as my original response to your post went over Topix 4000 character limit..........what I would say as you asked me is that it appears that we are on the same page as far as Jesus Christ being the ultimate name in authority as well as the only name that we have any hope in as far as salvation is concerned as outlined in Acts 4:12, however it would seem as far as your conversation with that Atheist goes is that like so many people fail to understand wnd including those who profess to be born again Christians is that the terms Father, Son and Holy Ghost are TITLES of the ONE God and NOT NAMES and when you take a candidate under water for baptism as I've said before calling out the titles and not IN the name of Jesus Christ that is not a baptism because you have only repeated after Jesus and have not done what he actually said to do, it should be no secret that I do not believe in the trinitarian doctrine as the Bible lets us know that there is only ONE God who was manifested in three different ways and not three Gods..........Father in creation, Son in redemption and the Holy Ghost in the church today.
The Atheist that you were talking to very likely as you said was probably only trying to csuse division among you and not really interesting in learning for spiritual edification for himself and all involved in the conversation, our former pastor and overseer once warned us to be careful of how deeply you get into these spiritual discussions with unbelievers as you can end up making yourself upset trying to get the understanding of the Word over to them, they have to be honest and sincere in their hearts for the power of God to work with their understanding.
Have a Blessed Thanksgiving BLL.
1) I don't believe that "Father," "Son," and "Holy Ghost," are three, distinct titles for only one "God," unless by "God," you mean our Godhead and not Father.
2) By your above definition, it would seem that you do, actually, believe in a "trinity."
If you would be so kind, I would greatly appreciate it if you could reveal to me your views on the following verses. So you know, I'm replacing certain terms with the appropriate terminology, in brackets. You'll notice that I won't reconcile the integrity of the verses in any way, shape, or form. You'll also notice that all the terms in brackets are taken from their actual uses in verses 24 and 28.
Then cometh the end, when [the Son] shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when [the Son] shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
For [the Son] must reign, till [God, even the Father] hath put all enemies under [the Son's] feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
For [God, even the Father] hath put all things under [the Son's] feet. But when [God, even the Father] saith, all things are put under [the Son], it is manifest that [God, even the Father] is excepted, which did put all things under [the Son].
And when all things shall be subdued unto [the Son], then shall the Son also himself be subject unto [God, even the Father] that put all things under [the Son], that God may be all in all.
You, most likely, know that the above is referring to a future event, which is long after our anointed Savior ascended to be with Father. With this in mind, then isn't it acceptable to, perhaps, think that even now, our anointed Savior is not only distinct from Father "God," but subject to Father "God," still, while in the heavenly realm? And according to the above verses, don't these, perhaps, imply that this subjection will continue afterward?
What say you, my Brother?