Why Should Jesus Love Me?

BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA

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#467594 Nov 18, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Despote the several geneologies, the fact that Jesus's family was in Nazareth/GAlillee would make it very unlikely that they were Judean. They were in the northern kingdom/Israel/Galillee.
It is very likely that Jesus and several of his followers were Samaritans, not Jews. It is also very possible that Jesus' "baptism" by John was during Jesus' conversion from Samaritism to Judaism.
please?don't rewrite Bible,sugest, or play more smart from Jesus

read Jesus statement about His Baptism from John,

your bambling,sugestions,and posibility together with those internet web faken media works for nobody, at first destroy you and put in the light of complete dumb

very soon you will sugest that Jesus was chineese,he he heeeeee

read Bible that is all what is left for you in those last days of your life

have good day and fast departure from Lies, and quesses

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#467595 Nov 18, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Of course he was tempted, flesh is always subject to be tempted because of the sin nature by which we are all born into the world, but no..........the father cannot be tempted because he is a spirit but the Word does warn us not to try and tempt God, remember all things in heaven and in earth belong to him to begin with and he has need of nothing.
If you say that Jesus' spirit was God The Father... then The Father was being tempted because temptation not only appeals to the flesh but it has a spiritual characteristic as well. And to say God the Father can be tempted goes against scripture because God (The Father) cannot be tempted... but Jesus was in all ways tempted according to scripture.

Jesus clearly says in the scriptures over and over again that His Father was in heaven and prayed to His Father in heaven. I have to go with the scriptures Bro.

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#467596 Nov 18, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
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Baptism has nothing to do with physical resurrection nor Jesus' death. It is a Jewish ritual of spiritual birth. If Jesus and John used it differently then they were very sinful Jews.
Wow!!!!!!!... Do you ever have alot to learn in the Lord..........

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#467597 Nov 18, 2012
Regarding Melchizedek, I agree with "Jehovah's Witnesses" interpretation.

First, it's written of him: "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God..."

In saying that he was made "like unto the Son of God," this must be in reference to how our anointed Savior was conceived in the womb of Mary. Like the creation of the very first man, intercourse was unnecessary in order for our anointed Savior to be conceived. Melchizedek's origins must have been identical, then. He wasn't conceived, nor born. He just was.

Also, to call Melchizedek the "king of Salem" identifies with our anointed Savior being appointed King, as well. "Salem" is nothing more than another name for Jerusalem. And Jerusalem is, after all, the resting place of "God's" earthly throne, even if a temple doesn't exist. Jerusalem is, with or without a temple, Zion.

Titles are most significant throughout the bible. Many times, titles are given as names. "Melchizedek" is one of these. As I believe, "Melchizedek" is the name and title of our anointed Savior as he appeared as a terrestrial being, but before he was born of a woman. When he was born of a woman, he was given a different name and title that identified with his overall mission. When in the spirit-realm, he was referred to, man times, as "the Angel of YHWH." And like "Jehovah's Witnesses," I believe that other than this title, that he was also called "Michael" when in the spirit-realm.

NOTE: For what reason would Abram offer tithes to Melchizedek unless he had knowledge of who Melchizedek was beforehand?

We read a few times how the most High visited Abram, even before Abram's visit by Melchizedek. According to what's written, though, we can easily conclude that a representative was actually sent to Abram, to talk with him. This representative, most likely, was our anointed Savior- the most High's foremost Angel. It's reasonable to conclude, then, that Abram recognized Melchizedek, having received visitations from him before.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA

Since: Sep 10

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#467598 Nov 18, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
G_O_D...
Pardon my intrusion, but I can't help but wonder...
Which higher, intelligent, supreme being do you worship?
How did you come to learn of this being?
If asked to provide written evidence of this being, what source(s) do you recommend?
sorry BLL for interuption
during my long obseravation of G_0_D POSTS.
clearly is visible that he doesn't worship anyone,nor any GOD

this very simple low educated poster using his own street wisdom to post internet different writters webs-mostly confusing if you read them carefuly and read them make head mish mash like head of g_o_d poster

g_o_d guesses, thoughts without of any logical base,accusations,insults other christians, just are unworthy in the world of spiritual debates, or biblical discussions

guy is just lost and entertain yourselves having a lot of time,seating in the bad and plying with internet possters

May G-D bless you Sir BLL
I think you got nothing against me for sometimes harsh unpleasant posts.
I LIKE TO READ AND ANALIZE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE CYBER SPACE

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#467599 Nov 18, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> According to the prophet Isaiah who pretty much bears out all that I've been saying to you Jesus is both the child given IS the MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER and THE PRINCE OF PEACE, and his name shall be called wonderful ( and it is a wonderful name ) and counsellor ( because he councils his people tbrough his Word and spirit ) and the government is upon his shoulders ( because he has all power ).
According to the original hebrew language for this verse in the Bible... Father isn't mentioned (Eternal is, but not Father):

http://interlinearbible.org/isaiah/9-6.htm

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#467600 Nov 18, 2012
bmz wrote:
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So did Mary Magdalene and his disciples. They too had a Father.
However, Jesus had no father. And the Father was not really his father.
The Father was everybody's Father, not everybody's father.
Yes indeed... that is what makes Jesus Sonship so unique... His true Daddy was God The Father... Big Daddy.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467601 Nov 18, 2012
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
<quoted text>
please?don't rewrite Bible,sugest, or play more smart from Jesus
read Jesus statement about His Baptism from John,
your bambling,sugestions,and posibility together with those internet web faken media works for nobody, at first destroy you and put in the light of complete dumb
very soon you will sugest that Jesus was chineese,he he heeeeee
read Bible that is all what is left for you in those last days of your life
have good day and fast departure from Lies, and quesses
Shrink,why are you arguing with that child of Satan?! Just as the book of Job mentioned an ocassion when Satan also came along one day when all of the faithful angels went before the Throne of God to themselves before the Lord,so also this 'g-d' character comes to this christian forum,even though he knows he's a child of the devil trying to use this 'ocassion',or christian forum,to VAINLY present his case. He's an evil,unrepentant son of Satan who has no conscious about speaking evil against the Holy Bible and the Lord Jesus Christ. That's why I don't WASTE TIME trying to respond to his silly posts. I dismissed him and his 'illogic' long ago.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467602 Nov 18, 2012
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Wow!!!!!!!... Do you ever have alot to learn in the Lord..........
How many white friends do you have?
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467603 Nov 18, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>According to the original hebrew language for this verse in the Bible... Father isn't mentioned (Eternal is, but not Father):
http://interlinearbible.org/isaiah/9-6.htm
How many white friends do you have?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#467604 Nov 18, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, Melchizedek was a normal human being. The author of Hebrews was just simply explaining how Melchizedek was an archetype of the Messiah and how the prophecy of the Melchizedek order (in Psalm 110) came to pass through Jesus...
"The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind: "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek."
Psalms 110:4
<quoted text>I've read of some leaders that were worshipped (Nimrod/Semiramis/Tammuz) etc...
But Melchizedek was a "human" King and a Priest of the Most High God... he wasn't the Most High God in bodily form like it was with some of the other pagan kings who were worshipped. Melchie was more like a chieftain (or some elder) of his own tribe of people and ruled that region or bit of land.. In his priestly action with Abram, he was being a facilitator of worship TO the Most High God rather than being worshipped. As a king, it was usually customary to pay tribute to the ruler of that land which one passes through, especially if they are friendly.
I agree with most of your point. As we have no details on Melchie outside the Hebrew sory it is impossible to do more than compare him to the numerous Sumerian leaders we do have details on.

That is to say, Melchie was a Sumerian human and nothing more.

The use of the term 'archtype' is IMHO a ex post facto apologetic and has no validity. One should not 'read into' the Scriptures what isn't there.

Note that the Jews, even at the time of Jesus, understood that the 'Messiah' was not in the Scriptures and is only a 'tradition' that became a part of Judaism without much Biblical support.

There are Jews that believe that several Messiahs have come and some Jews believe there is a Messiah in every generation. There even Jews that believe they are the Messiah. None of which is blasphemy in Judaism.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467605 Nov 18, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
TODAY is the day of salvation,for the Lord Jesus Christ has not promised you tomorrow!!: http://www.bing.com/videos/search...
Hundreds and thousands of people in need of salvation won't live to see tomorrow. And THIS is a prime example of why the Lord Jesus Christ said 'TODAY is the day of salvation,for you are not promised tomorrow!: http://www.bing.com/videos/search...

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Since: Aug 12

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#467606 Nov 18, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
The tribe of Benjamin ceased to exist when Judah was conquered by Babylon in c. 586 BCE.
It is refered to as a "lost tribe". Just another case of PAul having no clue about Judaism. Also, as a non-Jew he would not have been a Pharisee...esp. if he was a Roman persecutor of Jews.
Actually, they were all lost tribes (so it would seem) when they got scattered into exile.. but mostly their tribalship got diluted. Eventually, the people who had called themselves Benjaminites merged in with Judah and just considered themselves Jews... but some Jews still kept accurate geneologies like other non-jewish people do today.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467607 Nov 18, 2012

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#467608 Nov 18, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
G_O_D...
Pardon my intrusion, but I can't help but wonder...
Which higher, intelligent, supreme being do you worship?
How did you come to learn of this being?
If asked to provide written evidence of this being, what source(s) do you recommend?
I believe in God. The non-anthropomophic creative force from which the entire universe came into being and whose rules govern it.

I see God in action every day of my life. That is the 'proof'.

Just as I do not have to be an electrician to accept that electricity is real, I do not need a religion to understand that God is real.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467609 Nov 18, 2012

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#467610 Nov 18, 2012
Brother Lee Love wrote:
Regarding Melchizedek, I agree with "Jehovah's Witnesses" interpretation.
First, it's written of him: "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God..."
In saying that he was made "like unto the Son of God," this must be in reference to how our anointed Savior was conceived in the womb of Mary. Like the creation of the very first man, intercourse was unnecessary in order for our anointed Savior to be conceived. Melchizedek's origins must have been identical, then. He wasn't conceived, nor born. He just was.
Also, to call Melchizedek the "king of Salem" identifies with our anointed Savior being appointed King, as well. "Salem" is nothing more than another name for Jerusalem. And Jerusalem is, after all, the resting place of "God's" earthly throne, even if a temple doesn't exist. Jerusalem is, with or without a temple, Zion.
Titles are most significant throughout the bible. Many times, titles are given as names. "Melchizedek" is one of these. As I believe, "Melchizedek" is the name and title of our anointed Savior as he appeared as a terrestrial being, but before he was born of a woman. When he was born of a woman, he was given a different name and title that identified with his overall mission. When in the spirit-realm, he was referred to, man times, as "the Angel of YHWH." And like "Jehovah's Witnesses," I believe that other than this title, that he was also called "Michael" when in the spirit-realm.
NOTE: For what reason would Abram offer tithes to Melchizedek unless he had knowledge of who Melchizedek was beforehand?
We read a few times how the most High visited Abram, even before Abram's visit by Melchizedek. According to what's written, though, we can easily conclude that a representative was actually sent to Abram, to talk with him. This representative, most likely, was our anointed Savior- the most High's foremost Angel. It's reasonable to conclude, then, that Abram recognized Melchizedek, having received visitations from him before.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Good afternoon BLL... thanks for sharing your input... I'll take a look more in depth on this 2morrow.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

Nowhere/Now here

#467612 Nov 18, 2012
Qu_innocence wrote:
If you say that Jesus' spirit was God The Father... then The Father was being tempted because temptation not only appeals to the flesh but it has a spiritual characteristic as well. And to say God the Father can be tempted goes against scripture because God (The Father) cannot be tempted... but Jesus was in all ways tempted according to scripture.
Jesus clearly says in the scriptures over and over again that His Father was in heaven and prayed to His Father in heaven. I have to go with the scriptures Bro.
If you don't mind, I'd like to add that if our anointed Savior, like Father, could not be tempted, or was unable to sin, then his being tempted, all in all, was pointless, and makes null and void the fact that he conquered sin. None can't conquer what they never confront.

Additionally, he was our substitute on the cross. A substitute must, especially in the case of his sacrifice, identify perfectly with the initial subject, being susceptible to sin. As our sacrifice, he could not be unclean, nor a sinner, as such sacrifices were prohibited by the law. To avoid uncleanness, he was conceived without an earthly father. To remain perfect, he had to overcome every temptation while being just as susceptible to sin as we are. If he was not susceptible to sin, then he would not have been a proper, acceptable substitute.

Thank you for your time and consideration.
Doctor REALITY

United States

#467613 Nov 18, 2012
That must hav been before he got the ring.

“Become Love!”

Since: Jan 09

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#467614 Nov 18, 2012
CORRECTION: None CAN conquer what they never confront.

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