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Skombolis wrote:
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Well yeah I agree it should be common sense to look at the circumstances and understand a person may have an incentive to lie. But the systematic brainwashing broke down these natural defenses and fear of being an outcast did the rest.
Does that reduce any of the responsibility from the guilty party though? But I know what you are saying it is why is was so frustrating trying to deal with people where it seemed like common sense was having no affect. For whatever reasons, although I suspect I know most of them, there was no getting through to them. But I think those people need to engage in some serious introspection to understand why they were so susceptible to this and why the fear of losing the respect of the group mattered so much to them.
But again, just depends on the circumstances. Is a person who goes to club looking to get laid by strangers more responsible for being careless than say a widow who lost her husband that is lonely and was taken in by a professional con-man who got close to her to steal her money and he targeted her specifically because he knew she was vulnerable?
Some might say yes I say no. She still should have smarter but HC and his people targeted a demographic of people they knew they had a better chance of flipping. The poor, the desperate, the disenfranchised, those angry with the church, third-world countries, etc.

LOL..also don't forget to spade or neuter your pets!
Yessssss.... or if you have cats they will mark their territory inside your house.

But lastly, Gary being a leader will be held more accountable for his actions but others should have taken precautions also....

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I mean Good Afternoon, good gracious!

A Good Afternoon to CC, RA, Dr, AJ, LS, Ep and our newest JAWS member.

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Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Good Morning LW...
Hi Q;

Hope you are well and a happy guy.Have you heard about that muscle drink that has killed several people.My son gave me the news as he had drank some of them.Simply amazing what is put on the market that is harmful all for the sake of money.

It is up in the seventies out here today.I have kept my eyes glued to the tv over this whooper storm that has hit the east.People have left here to go and help them.Think it is gonna take people helping people to survive in this world.Love thy brother cause that is the one of the commandments.

Got some errands to run for my honey so will caught you later here.
Have a good day take care stay safe God Bless.

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lil whispers wrote:
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Hi Q;
Hope you are well and a happy guy.
Hey Sis, so far so good...
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Have you heard about that muscle drink that has killed several people.My son gave me the news as he had drank some of them.Simply amazing what is put on the market that is harmful all for the sake of money.
Nope, that's the first I've heard of it... I hope your son is alright and I'll keep my eyes out for it myself. Thanks for letting me know.
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It is up in the seventies out here today.I have kept my eyes glued to the tv over this whooper storm that has hit the east.People have left here to go and help them.Think it is gonna take people helping people to survive in this world.Love thy brother cause that is the one of the commandments.
Yeah it was pretty windy down here last night.. cloudy out here today... cool. Amen on the rest...
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Got some errands to run for my honey so will caught you later here.
Have a good day take care stay safe God Bless.
Safe travels out there in New Mex... headed out myself.

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lil whispers wrote:
Finally brothers we instructed you know how to live in order to please God,as in fact you are living.Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more.For you know what instrutions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.
It is God's will that you should be sanctified that you should avoid sexual immorality,that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable not in passion lust like the heathen who do not know God and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him.The Lord will punish men for all such sin as we have already told you and warned you.
For God did not call us to be impure bit to live a holy life.Therefore he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God who give you his Holy Spirit.
Now about brotherly love we do not need to write to you yourselves have been taught by God to love each other.And in fact you do love all the brothers throughout Macedonia yet we urge you brothers to do more and more.
Make it your ambition to lead a quite life to mind your own business and to work with your hands just as we told you.so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so thay you will not be dependent on any body.
Living to please God.
excelent reminder lill.
true Gods children living only to please God?

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The Son of God Music Ministry
The Lost Sheep

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Jesus: "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."

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Qu_innocence wrote:
The Son of God Music Ministry
The Lost Sheep
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Jesus: "I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent."
ALSO SIR
people like gary don't need man forgiveness only true heart repentance and broken heart before our Precious God?

I agree with your quote

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Just keepin' it REAL.
Wait, so you're not a religionist anymore?

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Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text> Yessssss.... or if you have cats they will mark their territory inside your house.
But lastly, Gary being a leader will be held more accountable for his actions but others should have taken precautions also....
I agree. In a twist of fate for those that come out the other side it probably will end up being beneficial that part of what was being taught was easily disproved simply by the calendar. Otherwise I have no doubt most would have remained under the thrall of HC. For those people they can retrace their steps and find where they went off course and why. I think they will probably need to start over and build an entire new foundation. I mourn those who will not get that chance and those that would have stayed the path if not misled. Yes their was things wrong to be susceptible to being misled but with the right influences they may have gotten much stronger. Hard to know how things might have played out.Good talk brother.(T) PEACE

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What a surprise. Look who is trying to slither back in under the radar. Guess violating TOS or being where they are not wanted is no deterent compared to the charade of using Jesus Christ to troll. Get your stop-watches ready. Reversion to true form ought to be any second now.

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FrancessJaws wrote:
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Good Morning Internet stranger.....
You are the strangest person on this thread. How many personalities is this ? A Baker's Dozen ?

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Epiphany2 wrote:
Today's Prayer
Dear God, I praise you and thank you for who you are. Please guide me and help me when I face conflict and disagreement with others. Help me to follow biblical principles. Sometimes I'm just "hard-headed" and do not want to give in to compromise, even when either view, decision, desire is biblical. Help me to carefully consider the other person's perspective and situation. And if someone has wronged me, give me courage to confront them in a spirit of love and reconciliation. If they will not hear me, show me who should go with me to talk with the person. When necessary, help me to continue on and take steps based on Your Word. I want to do what is right, and as much as possible, to live peaceably with all people. Please forgive me where I have failed, and give me the grace and wisdom to do better; to do what is right. In Jesus' name I pray, amen.
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Amen, good prayer and one that hits home with myself very much.

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Epiphany2 wrote:
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I agree with your Prayer....
What do yo think of the Security breach of 3 million South Carolina residents...Social Security numbers and Credit and Debit numbers....? I have signed up to the free Experion credit "watch"....SAD isnt it????
Good evening Epi, yes it is sad and potentionally tragic if the crooks involved ever put all that stolen info to use for their own evil purposes, I'm glad that you signed up for the free protection plan of which I need to do myself and stop procrastinating ( don't know if my ingo was among the stolen ).

Anyway hope it turns out well for everyone who may have been compromised. Peace.

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Correction............INFO not ingo.

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Skombolis wrote:
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True
I would add that even AFTER the May failed prediction Gary was on Latter Rain telling people that even then if they strayed from total loyalty to Camping it meant they were not true believers and since the tribulation was a spiritual one not a physical one it also meant nobody else could be saved. He flat out told people those that did not stay the course believing the new Rapture date in October that they were condemned. Him finally leaving Camping after the October failed prediction isn't deserving of much credit at that point and yet even then he still didn't do so. To the best of my knowledge he is still promoting all the rest of HC's doctrine, even the parts that were contingent on the failed timeline.
He can't even admit the verses in Mark and Matthew they specifically say man can not know are ones he got wrong or that the Son in those verses (despite over a dozen times in the rest of the passage the Son is referred to as the Son of man) is not the son of perdition.He had to find some obscure verse in Zech to say that is why man can't know.His pride is still stopping him from taking responsibility or repenting IMO.Well that and some things like his victims he simply feels is not something he needs to repent for.
But I agree, a first step would be denouncing anything to do with Camping
Good evening Skom, interesting conversation you and Qu have going here over a false prophet and his deceived disciples, it would definitely be a step in the right direction if Gary would renounce Camping and come true repentence which would lead to true salvation, but for the most part it simply highlights the Word that tells us 'if the blind leads the blind, both shall fall into the ditch'.

The Bless part of this sad situation is that such crooked and perverse people cannot possibly deceived the elect sake but only the deceived and simple hearted that the bible speaks of.

Peace.

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Epiphany2 wrote:
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I looked at the post to me the page before...but just saw one to Lawest...Sorry....I guess we just aren't "connecting" together....About the only time I can talk to you is now (Our Morning 6:00 AM EST)....
Our North has been affected by the Hurricane...I believe 12 have died (so far)....Please keep us all in Prayer....
Love to you...
Not sure who's missing what here [[[Epi]]]
Except the point my Friend.
Never mind...
Back in this river - Page 22487 post #465468
and next page + post |#465502
- is my post in reply to you,
and one to the room.

Time Zones don't make it better - now our 9-45am Wed - so hope this time you catch the hold of the life raft.[ on the road ]
The next 2 posts will be a copy of both.

Love you Sister and Shalom.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Just stand on the Gospel of Jesus Christ and it will be ok. People get ready! Hope everyone is safe in this storm.
Very true bro, it's good to see you here Chris, hope you and yours are keeping safe as well in this monster of a storm.

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Chris Clearwater wrote:
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Yes. This is the power of our Lord Jesus! God's love bro. Sorry about your team but its still a great thing how far they went!
Yes..........Detroit is STARVING for a winner, rathert be the Tigers, Lions or Pistons, lol.

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LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> The Bless part of this sad situation is that such crooked and perverse people cannot possibly deceived the elect sake but only the deceived and simple hearted that the bible speaks of.
I agree..so long as he remains tethered to HC or his doctrine there is not much reason for optimism. I do agree the Lord is not fond of the lukewarm and that the body of Christ only becomes stronger when weaker links are removed. Just hurts me to know ones young in journey that may had gone on to be a rock were led astray before they could lay roots.(i know i am mixing metaphors but it makes the points anyway). And how many may misdirect their anger at God when under diff circumstances they would have come to really know him? What children of his victims wont be taught to seek God because their parents lost faith?And just the unfairness of the suffering that could have been avoided. The whole thing is sad and makes me angry. Good to see ya brother (T) PEACE

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