Why Should Jesus Love Me?
lil whispers

Albuquerque, NM

#453093 Aug 20, 2012
But wilt thou know O vain man that faith without works is dead.For as the body without the spirit is dead so faith without works is dead also.
James 2:20-26
lil whispers

Albuquerque, NM

#453094 Aug 20, 2012
And every man that hath this hope in Him purifieth himself even as He is pure.
1 John 3:3
lil whispers

Albuquerque, NM

#453095 Aug 20, 2012
For we are made partakers of Christ If we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.
Hebrews 3:14

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#453096 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
It was also said God sent the boats. I guess people want God to send the boats, carry them into them, and do the rowing.
It is like someone saying they don't need to repent their sins because doing so would mean they think their actions are more important than God's. It is a twisting of faith using hyperbole and rationalizations so someone can simply placate themselves with the belief it is ok to do nothing.
James 1:22-25
But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a mirror.[For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing
Agreed.

I would just ask for the strength to swim to shore. <smile>
mike

AOL

#453097 Aug 20, 2012
Just Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Mike,
When someone is going through a possible life altering experience like Carol, it helps if one knows that another is thinking of them, kinda takes their mind away from what's happening if for only a moment or two. No one wants to face an experience like that alone. I know that it comforted me to know that even if anonymous, there were good wishes, maybe prayers, good thoughts coming my way.
Your other question about words in the air? I don't write prayers online, I prefer to the solitude of talking with my maker alone, even if it's just going into the air. Rather than feeling sorry for myself, I'd rather focus on making another feel better. JMO.
BTW, I have a son named Mike, you remind me of him.
Peace and peppermints,
JW
Thanks for the reply

I agree with some of the things in your post, I'll leave it at that.

Do you claim christianity?
lil whispers

Albuquerque, NM

#453098 Aug 20, 2012
Thank you I have pleasure of knowing seven of you read theses scriptures.God work well done for at least seven of you.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#453099 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
IMO the Bible shows us true faith is a responsibility. It is why we have the parable of the man who is likened to hiding his gifts under a bushel basket. God has blessed us with the tools, we have a responsibility to use them. We also have a responsibility to our fellow man.
If someone is out of work and refuses to even try to look for a job and collects a welfare check, they can't claim God is paying their bills IMO. In fact I believe it would be a sin. Faith in God to me means you do your best, to the best of your ability, with the tools and gifts God has given you. That is the part we can control. And then we leave all the rest we can't control up to God.
But this sense of entitlement through faith or rationalization for inaction through faith IMO is wrong. God isn't there to provide us a free ride. He is there to help us and even carry us in times of need and to always be there to love and guide us. But we have a responsibility to meet Him half-way, or whatever smaller fraction it may actually be. We have a responsibility to try to do his will which includes not wasting our gifts and helping those in need. Those that want God to do the heavy-lifting is in part why there are so many starving children in the world. Yes we should have faith in God. And IMO we ought to give Him some reasons to have faith in us.
Good post Annie
(T) Peace
You understood my point...

:-)

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#453100 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Deb
I actually wasn't trying to make a point so much as I thought you would enjoy them because I consider you someone who strives to live a life that would emulate the ideas expressed in the quotes. The first quote was a more eloquent version of another quote of his which is well known which is "all is takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing". There is a moral line that must be upheld. It isn't a glamorous position but that doesn't diminish the necessity of needing it filled. It is easier to do nothing. It is less stressful to do nothing. And doing nothing even provides less temptation. Which is why it is important those that toe the line lead by example. It isn't easy to do a times despite the concept being as simple as one could ask for. Love everyone, promote what is right, and speak out against what is wrong. Keep doing what you do my friend.
(T) Peace
<<<<<<smooch >>>>>>> I thought you were hinting all us friendly folk should come back regularly <smile>

You are right about what you say in this post~ easy but difficult at times.

I hope all is well for you brother <3
mike

AOL

#453101 Aug 20, 2012
JohnJaws wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Mike,
You regard this as an enternment site because you look to be entertained. That's why I made the post to you that I did.
Of course people are praying for each other. You are very shallow and cold of heart really.
Hey J J

Anyone on the internet is priviledge, at that it's called play acting.

Some who claim christianity on this thread look for like-minded mental patients.

Again, this is a entertainment site.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#453102 Aug 20, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
<quoted text>Say,brother,won't you loan me 5 mill so I can buy me a mansion on Rockingham Ave. in Brentwood,California? I know you took a 'lump sum'.
LOL~ NOW that is funny (c:

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#453103 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Those weren't religious quotes, they were quotes about loving one another and not allowing evil to flourish by doing nothing. If you become so focused on challenging Christianity that you lose sight of the unquestionable truth behind those quotes then what have you accomplished? Do you want to oppose Christianity so much that you would take issue with things like the following?
Matthew 7:12
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
Sure some Christians don't always do what they are supposed to. Do you? As the sole representative for your belief system, do you live it to perfection? It is easier to have one's own belief system because nobody can call them on it since they make their own rules but what have you done where you think your moral pedestal eclipses all of Christianity?
I think you misunderstood me. I was mostly agreeing with you.
However, I am not alone in my beliefs. There are many who have come to the same conclusions. Others have been chased away from God and Jesus by the hypocricy and double standards held up by many "Christians".

I study Jesus, the Bible and much more and listen to all intelligently presented arguements. Sadly they are a rarityon both sides.

Yes, I am anti-Paulinism, that does not make me anti-Jesus. I have learned that most Christians follow Paul, not Jesus. That they claim to follow Jesus is what I find deceitful.

Do I practice what I preach ? Mostly. I follow the Noahide Laws and believe Jesus is the Atonement for all mankind. I believe Jesus was a Ben'Adam, a prophet and murdered by the Roman Empire. I also believe that Reform Judaism follows the teaching of Jesus bettter than any Christian denomination ever did or does. Perhaps someday I will have enough faith to become Jewish which is what I also believe is what Jesus taught despite what the Roman/Pauline Churches teach.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#453104 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
....what have you done where you think your moral pedestal eclipses all of Christianity?
I don't lie about God, Jesus and the Bible.
I don't hate people based on their religion, sexual orientation, color of their skin or nationality.
I follow the Seven Noahide Laws like James and the Jerusalem Church.
I don't "believe" just to get out of God's judgement.

There's a couple for a start.
mike

AOL

#453105 Aug 20, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
It is estimated that 15,000 (give or take a couple of thousand) children die of starvation related illnesses daily...one every 3.6 seconds.
Why doesn't God go to the store with them and pay their bills???
Yes...I believe that it is us "we" that are responsible for feeding those children...but when "we" fail for whatever reason...if God is going grocery shopping for you...why can't he pick up a few extra things for those children.
Why would God pay your bills...and not the bills of those children?
Looks like somebody is thinking.

Wanna-be christians don't ask questions.
mike

AOL

#453106 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
IMO the Bible shows us true faith is a responsibility. It is why we have the parable of the man who is likened to hiding his gifts under a bushel basket. God has blessed us with the tools, we have a responsibility to use them. We also have a responsibility to our fellow man.
If someone is out of work and refuses to even try to look for a job and collects a welfare check, they can't claim God is paying their bills IMO. In fact I believe it would be a sin. Faith in God to me means you do your best, to the best of your ability, with the tools and gifts God has given you. That is the part we can control. And then we leave all the rest we can't control up to God.
But this sense of entitlement through faith or rationalization for inaction through faith IMO is wrong. God isn't there to provide us a free ride. He is there to help us and even carry us in times of need and to always be there to love and guide us. But we have a responsibility to meet Him half-way, or whatever smaller fraction it may actually be. We have a responsibility to try to do his will which includes not wasting our gifts and helping those in need. Those that want God to do the heavy-lifting is in part why there are so many starving children in the world. Yes we should have faith in God. And IMO we ought to give Him some reasons to have faith in us.
Good post Annie
(T) Peace
Hello Skombolis,
Sometimes you make sense,...not that my opinion matters.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#453107 Aug 20, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't lie about God, Jesus and the Bible.
I don't hate people based on their religion, sexual orientation, color of their skin or nationality.
I follow the Seven Noahide Laws like James and the Jerusalem Church.
I don't "believe" just to get out of God's judgement.
There's a couple for a start.
I asked where you feel your morality eclipses all of Christianity. If you believe the examples you provided accurately describe all of Christianity and the Christians it includes then I would suggest not hating people based on their religion isn't something you can claim.

Do I think deep down you feel this way? Probably not. I would have to think our friendship.fraudulent and I don't. But I also have no interest in being an "exception" when there are hundreds if millions of Christians you have never met.

I think you have a tendency to start generalizing to the point of bigotry at worst and arrogance at best in response to any exchanges with Christians that you didn't like. You lump judge an entire faith when angry yet at the same time say it is the one that is arrogant and bigoted. Do some in the faith have approaches that might justify someone making such a claim about them? Perhaps depending on the person. But if you can't keep the claim restricted to an individual how is what you do any better? Do you realize how many times you say "Christians this.." or "Christians that.."?

I'm just calling it like I see it my friend

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#453108 Aug 20, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you misunderstood me. I was mostly agreeing with you.
However, I am not alone in my beliefs. There are many who have come to the same conclusions. Others have been chased away from God and Jesus by the hypocricy and double standards held up by many "Christians".
I study Jesus, the Bible and much more and listen to all intelligently presented arguements. Sadly they are a rarityon both sides.
Yes, I am anti-Paulinism, that does not make me anti-Jesus. I have learned that most Christians follow Paul, not Jesus. That they claim to follow Jesus is what I find deceitful.
Do I practice what I preach ? Mostly. I follow the Noahide Laws and believe Jesus is the Atonement for all mankind. I believe Jesus was a Ben'Adam, a prophet and murdered by the Roman Empire. I also believe that Reform Judaism follows the teaching of Jesus bettter than any Christian denomination ever did or does. Perhaps someday I will have enough faith to become Jewish which is what I also believe is what Jesus taught despite what the Roman/Pauline Churches teach.
I have never felt you were anti-Jesus. However my point wasn't to imply justification of beliefs through sheer numbers. It would not matter to me if I was the sole representation of my belief system if I felt it right.

But to claim inherent superiority of your system because it doesn't follow the Bible in full but rather in part makes no sense to me. Especially when accompanied with the accusation it is Christians who look down on other beliefs. Look at your post about the Bible and dead emperors and explain to me how you aren't guilty of the very thing you fault others for.

In fact you are imo going out of your way to make it about the faith as a whole and not the person you are disagreeing with. You say people don't respect your beliefs but you show little to none for the beliefs of others.

Again do I think this is more indicative of your frustration than your actual beliefs? Probably. But how often can you do the very thing you accuse other faiths of doing without being called to task?

Just calling it like I see it. I do think however your goal to find your true spiritual path is an admirable one

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#453110 Aug 20, 2012
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
<<<<<<smooch >>>>>>> I thought you were hinting all us friendly folk should come back regularly <smile>
You are right about what you say in this post~ easy but difficult at times.
I hope all is well for you brother <3
I would love to see more of the old regulars back simply because i miss them. No editorial involved:)

Things are going pretty well. Not great but better than average and all things considered that is pretty good!

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#453111 Aug 20, 2012
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Skombolis,
Sometimes you make sense,...not that my opinion matters.
Hello Mike

Sometimes??

C'mon, ALL my observations are spot-on!

JK. Although it reminds me of this quote:

"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

- Bertrand Russell

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#453112 Aug 20, 2012
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
You understood my point...
:-)
:)

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe

#453113 Aug 20, 2012
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Those weren't religious quotes, they were quotes about loving one another and not allowing evil to flourish by doing nothing. If you become so focused on challenging Christianity that you lose sight of the unquestionable truth behind those quotes then what have you accomplished? Do you want to oppose Christianity so much that you would take issue with things like the following?
Matthew 7:12
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
Sure some Christians don't always do what they are supposed to. Do you? As the sole representative for your belief system, do you live it to perfection? It is easier to have one's own belief system because nobody can call them on it since they make their own rules but what have you done where you think your moral pedestal eclipses all of Christianity?
That's >>>FUNNY<<<! !!

The morally bankrupt deceitful lying Skumbucket lecturing OTHERS on morality. Now THAT is some mega ironic comedy!!!!

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