Why Should Jesus Love Me?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Doctor Reality wrote:

<quoted text>You answered the question to your own problem. You said 'The more and more I read the Bible,THE MORE QUESTIONS I HAD.' Well there you go! If you feel you came to the 'realization' that the Bible was a just a 'hoax',that only means that you NEVER 'trusted' Christ to begin with. So is it ACTUALLY possible for a person to go to a church,to come forward and accept Christ before a congregation,and be baptized in water and STILL not be saved??!!! Actually,I think it is possible. I,personally,can't say for sure because it is the Lord who searches men's hearts and souls,not me. And only the Lord truly knows what's in a person's heart. Like I said,I think that it is actually possible for a person to 'go through the motions' without haviing a genuine change of heart.

All this just to site the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. You have no idea what was in my heart. Your reasoning is nothing more then your attempt to resolve the cognitive dissonance you experience when you hear a story like mine.

Doctor Reality wrote:

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Just ask Judas Iscariot. I've said it before,and I'll say it again: I don't believe that Judas Iscariot was EVER saved to begin with. Judas Iscariot was just as much of an evil 'infiltrator' as was the September 11th hijack pilots who crashed those 767's into the twin towers of New York for Osama Bin Laden.

To the followers of those people, they were heroes. That's called Divine Command Theory. What ever arbitrary things God commands, becomes morally good. Thus the followers of said deity are morally required to except them.

[Cheriann]

whispers wrote:

Good Morning;Think God has been finger painting again.Sky is blue upon the blue canvas layes pearl white clouds of finger smears with a peak of blue here and a peak of blue there with swirls of pearls white fluffs follow the design of the creator finger.Took a morning walk down the trail to the creek,noticed small feet prints of critter cutting me the way possible a small fox,walked along the creek and water bounced of the stones with ease like a small child jumping rope.The wild flowers streching out to grab the morning warm but green with laughter.Return home a place of contentment and comfort to find a warm cup of pleasureful taste to start the day.have a grand day everyone with much happiness little whispers

Whispers, you are at it again.... The way you describe things. Its just so wonderful. Have a wonderful day. God bless. Hamba kahle (((Hugs)))

[mike]

Scriptures tell believers to ignore the joy of the wicked, their day will come, often times, it does not come in this life.

Why do wicked people have joy, if joy comes from a GOD?

Wait, don't tell me, their joy is not the real joy,...correct?

I'll take it anyway I can get it.

[Ooogah Boogah]

hick-up wrote:

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Hi C,...get it?
Do they have Hi-C fruit drink in Africa?
Google Harold Camping Family Radio.

So, what are the odds that ol' Harry "offs" himself on Sat, enabling his followers to declare him a prophet for predicting his own demise.

Yes, it would be stupid. But very Christard like.

[Lifelover]

mike wrote:

<quoted text>Thank you

Glad you understand.Nicest thing you ever said to me..Mike..

[Cheriann]

hick-up wrote:

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Hi C,...get it?
Do they have Hi-C fruit drink in Africa?
Google Harold Camping Family Radio.

Hi Hick-Up No we don't have Hi-C fruit drink in Africa. I am going to google this fella and see what rubbish he is talking. Thank you (baie dankie) Hamba kahle (((Hugs)))

[Truths]

mike wrote:

<quoted text>Again, I say figurative.
Consider babies that die, babies that are aborted, did they accomplish what they were conceived for?

The baby that I miscarried BLESSED my life with NEW knowledge about my self, my husband and to the betterment of BEING a mom to MY next child.

Abortions are the POOR choice of the persons WHO CHOOSE to take the life...hence WRECKIG their own lives in many ways admitted or NOT. BUT , GOD STILL offers them forgiveness AND PEACE~

Babies that die early may have served Gods purpose in the lives of lessons for the parents,

OR

SAVED the child from a worse FATE~ SUCH as LOSS of salvation for them or others..had they grown to physical maturity.

God can and does save us from OURSELVES by prompting us to honor good choices for ourselves...AND for the GLORY of His kingdom.
WHEN He is done using me to reach out to others...and when MY family is 'saved' I wil die physically.

IF my death WILL bring MY husband to salvation.

Then I am willing to die NOW. My sons have the faith to KNOW that it would be Gods purpose and to the greater good~
It is Gods timing and with IN HIS plans while I am with in His boundries.

[nysdan]

hick-up wrote:

<quoted text>It's okay nysdan because we started building an ark long ago and it's almost completed. We will be fine ...thanx.

Not to be argumentative, but your statement of WE stared building an ark long ago, implies YOR WORK of saving yourself. This cannot be. that ark will sink. By the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified in His sight. It's not OK, many will die on that ark you're building.

Salvation is all God's work, and is a gift, never earned.

[Lifelover]

God morning to yous.GREAT to be alive..Looking forward to the future..Everyday is a GIFT!

[The Central Scrutinizer]

LAWEST100 wrote:

<quoted text>Well to begin with........there is no failure in God, The failure was obviously somewhere in you, God is not a liar as he is keeper of his promises.

First of all I'm not a masochist. I'm not going to belittle myself to an unsubstantiated God. Therein lies another problem with your argument Lawest100, you assume that your God is perfect so the problem must have been with me. You beg the question, first you must prove God exists before you can claim He is not a liar. Besides, why does an all powerful God need a dirty rotten sinner such as yourself to defend him?

LAWEST100 wrote:

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Also despite the often used term of "I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour" is not truly a correct termonology as it pertains to God's Word, The Lord made it clear that no one can come unto save the father in heaven DRAWS HIM, Otherwise you wouldn't have a mind or desire to be saved to begin with, And the only way that YOU accept HIM is by total submission and obedience to his will and his Word.
The steps to salvation were clear by Jesus before and after his death burial and resurrection and carried on out continually by his Apostles which are..........
Repentence (True Godly sorrowness from the heart)
Baptism- By going down in water IN his name (were you baptized in his name?)
And being filled with the gift of the Holy Ghost with the edvidence of speaking with other tongues as the spirit gives the utterance.
And if you DID do these, Did you give up totally unto him seeking him with all your mind heart and soul calling constantly upon his name?
Sorry........but go back and examine ALL of your actions and the intents of your heart behind them!

You do realize that "Moving the Goal Posts" is another logical fallacy don't you? The Christian way to salvation is clearly spelled out in the Bible, why are you attempting to make it more than it really is?

[nysdan]

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[Red Apples]

nysdan wrote:

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Yes, the quake will strike at approx. 6 PM in your area on May 21, but we can view the quake on TV on the other side of the world, at the dateline [ New Zealand, Christmas Island ] at approx. 2 AM eastern time.

So now you're saying the rapture is going to happen at different times at different places?

[Truths]

mike wrote:

<quoted text>Evil people live long lives all the time,...what's up with that?

There are scriptures for that too Mike~

Basically... they may PROFIT in the flesh, but CAN'T take it with them to hell.

The 'rain' falls on both the righteous and the unrighteous... AS does the GOOD times~ BUT earthly pleasures PALE compared to eternity in BLISS~ verses eternity WISHING you CHOSE Christ.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

LAWEST100 wrote:

<quoted text>Explain to me what the "No true Scotsman" fallacy is and perhaps I can answer you!

an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion.

Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing."
—Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking

[Truths]

mike wrote:

Scriptures tell believers to ignore the joy of the wicked, their day will come, often times, it does not come in this life.
Why do wicked people have joy, if joy comes from a GOD?
Wait, don't tell me, their joy is not the real joy,...correct?
I'll take it anyway I can get it.

Hooray FOR YOU~ YOU came RIGHT back to yesterdays questions..and answers (c:
THE people who CHOOSE to be wicked ..also SACRIFICE ther KIDS and spouses and others TO GOD to do with as HE said HE would. See?
PEOPLES WRONG choices make the BAD happen to others. God can not lie~ SO He has to do as He says He would. HE gives MANY WARNINGS before following through~ BUT FOLLOW through HE MUST.

[Cheriann]

Good night all. Speak again tomorrow. Hamba kahle God bless

[mike]

Lifelover wrote:

<quoted text>Glad you understand.Nicest thing you ever said to me..Mike..

I've said it before,..go back a ways.

[whispers]

Cheriann wrote:

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Whispers, you are at it again.... The way you describe things. Its just so wonderful. Have a wonderful day. God bless. Hamba kahle (((Hugs)))

Warm hello;You have a wonderful day as for me I am making a cake in the oven and think I shall follow Gods example and finger paint the cake for thoeses who love me.little whispers.

[nysdan]

Red Apples wrote:

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So now you're saying the rapture is going to happen at different times at different places?

As it becomes approx 6 PM anywhere in the world as the world turns, on May 21, God will bring the greatest quake, of a traveling nature throughout the entire world in 24 hrs.
Better seek Gods face for mercy now, for when you see this happening on TV it may be too late for mercy.

[Phaerae]

Cheriann wrote:

<quoted text>Hi Hick-Up No we don't have Hi-C fruit drink in Africa. I am going to google this fella and see what rubbish he is talking. Thank you (baie dankie) Hamba kahle (((Hugs)))

Someone in the states is actually offering a service where you pay them and when and if you are raptures they will care for your left behind pets. Sad thing is they are making a fortune off the foolish ones buying into this wad of BS.