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woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You can thank your GOP-Teabaggers for that by refusing to get into the exchange. Taylor's making sure of that just for spite.
and you are brain washed.

Explain exactly how for 30 years insurance I paid for myself, has gone up because of GOP Teabaggers?

Exchange? How about buy your insurance from a provider you choose and can pay for.
Some employers provide insurance to help retain employees, but employees share in the expense.

Being self employed, I pay 100% of my benefit package for family of 4, for 25 years. Now I am re-married on my working wife's medical plan. She pays $360 a month, and employer pays remainder. In the end, she pays it all because the employers consider it a cost of the employee.

The exchange is the Government takeover of healthcare, and corrupt politicians determining whom receives treatment.

Refusing your exchange is what exactly should be done. There is no free lunch. Someone has to pay.

Healthcare is 25% of our entire economy. You want to assist the government in taking that over to continue the socialist movement in this country.

woo-boy.....you have a problem. The 2nd amendment. Many have died to keep this country free, and many willing to die defending it. You liberal loud mouths won't be willing to die for anything, because you are too busy making excuses.

Before America becomes full blown socialist, expect patriots to Declare Independence from the run away government, and revolt taking it back.

Our military swore to up hold the constitution. The constitution limits government. What % of active military do you think would follow what they swore to up hold?

Better yet.....what percentage of Officers do you expect to live up to their promise?

everyday is a ticking bomb for this administration. This administration has and is continuing to move America backwards.

Loud mouths like yourself will spin and pass the blame.

The Obama reign has caused America great damage, and is close to causing war amongst race, and society class. The war needs to be against this over reaching government that is bankrupting us on purpose.

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The law requires firms with 50 or more "full-time equivalent workers" to offer health plans to employees who work more than 30 hours a week.(The law says "equivalent" because two 15 hour a week workers equal one full-time worker.) Employers that pass the 50-employee threshold and don't offer insurance face a $2,000 penalty for each uncovered worker beyond 30 employees. So by hiring the 50th worker, the firm pays a penalty on the previous 20 as well.
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These employment cliffs are especially perverse economic incentives. Thousands of employers will face a $40,000 penalty if they dare expand and hire a 50th worker. The law is effectively a $2,000 tax on each additional hire after that, so to move to 60 workers costs $60,000.
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A 2011 Hudson Institute study estimates that this insurance mandate will cost the franchise industry $6.4 billion and put 3.2 million jobs "at risk." The insurance mandate is so onerous for small firms that Stephen Caldeira, president of the International Franchise Association, predicts that "Many stores will have to cut worker hours out of necessity. It could be the difference between staying in business or going out of business." The franchise association says the average fast-food restaurant has profits of only about $50,000 to $100,000 and a margin of about 3.5%.
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Because other federal employment regulations also kick in when a firm crosses the 50 worker threshold, employers are starting to cap payrolls at 49 full-time workers. These firms have come to be known as "49ers." Businesses that hire young and lower-skilled workers are also starting to put a ceiling on the work week of below 30 hours. These firms are the new "29ers." Part-time workers don't have to be offered insurance under ObamaCare.
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The mandate to offer health insurance doesn't take effect until 2014, but the "measurement period" used by the feds to determine a firm's average number of full-time employees started last month. So the cutbacks and employment dodges are underway.
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The savings from restricting hours worked can be enormous. If a company with 50 employees hires a new worker for $12 an hour for 29 hours a week, there is no health insurance requirement. But suppose that worker moves to 30 hours a week. This triggers the $2,000 federal penalty. So to get 50 more hours of work a year from that employee, the extra cost to the employer rises to about $52 an hour—the $12 salary and the ObamaCare tax of what works out to be $40 an hour.
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Moving to 33 hours a week costs the employer about $10 an hour more in ObamaCare tax. Look for fewer 30-35 hour-a-week jobs. The law that was sold as a way to help business and workers is thus yanking a few more rungs from the ladder of economic upward mobility.
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Many franchisees of Burger King, McDonalds, Red Lobster, KFC, Dunkin' Donuts and Taco Bell have started to cut back on full-time employment, though many are terrified to talk on the record. Activist groups have organized boycotts against Darden Restaurants, which owns Olive Garden and Red Lobster, for daring to publicly criticize ObamaCare. It's safer to quietly dodge the new costs and avoid becoming a political target.
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But the damage won't be limited to franchisees or restaurants. A 2012 survey of employers by the Mercer consulting firm found that 67% of retail and wholesale firms that don't offer insurance coverage today "are more inclined to change their workforce strategy so that fewer employees meet that [30 hour a week] threshold." This week Nigel Travis, the CEO of Dunkin' Donuts, asked Congress to change the health law's definition of full-time to 40 hours a week from 30 hours so worker hours won't have to be cut.

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#19840
Aug 9, 2013
 
The timing of all this couldn't be worse. Involuntary part-time U.S. employment is already near a record high. The latest Department of Labor employment survey counts roughly eight million Americans who want a full-time job but are stuck in a part-time holding pattern. That number is down only 520,000 since January 2010 and it is 309,000 higher than last March. (See the nearby chart.) And now comes ObamaCare to increase the incentive for employers to hire only part-time workers.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
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You bitch about paying taxes.... hells bells if you don't like all the goodies you're getting maybe you oughta try something different. Go on and tax companies more. They'd love the incentive to go someplace with nicer weather.
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I never b1tched about paying taxes. Is this another one of those sneaky GOP ploys? Besides, we all know those companies fled the country under GW Bush. You kookie Tea Baggers. Always trying to rewrite history.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
The timing of all this couldn't be worse. Involuntary part-time U.S. employment is already near a record high. The latest Department of Labor employment survey counts roughly eight million Americans who want a full-time job but are stuck in a part-time holding pattern. That number is down only 520,000 since January 2010 and it is 309,000 higher than last March.(See the nearby chart.) And now comes ObamaCare to increase the incentive for employers to hire only part-time workers.
A temp work force is nothing new. It's the country GW Bush created. Besides, all those lazy kids of the guy who started the company...oops...I mean highly valued job creators, haven't been paying for health insurance they keep crying about. The temp services pay for all that. Besides, Obamacare was just peachy when the Conservative Right first drafted it.
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xxxrayted wrote:
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I suppose you have proof of this? I didn't think so.
And did you ever ask yourself why health insurance premiums in Ohio are going up 88% next year? You got it, Obama Care. Did you ever ask yourself why healthcare insurance is going up all over the country? Did you ever ask yourself why DumBama is stalling the employer mandate for healthcare insurance? I mean...... if it's such a good idea, why didn't he start employer mandate two years ago?
You libs think that everything is free. You have absolutely no concept that when somebody gets something for free, somebody else has to pay for it. That's the way it works in the real world. Free cell phones, free food, free housing, free healthcare. It's all free...... isn't it? It all comes from the free fairy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You cradle-to-gravers are going to be the end of this country. You're almost there, so keep voting Democrat.
Valid points. I am amazed at all of those that don't think that Detroit can happen to the country. Just a shocking level of non-thinking!

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UdintEARNthat wrote:
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A temp work force is nothing new. It's the country GW Bush created. Besides, all those lazy kids of the guy who started the company...oops...I mean highly valued job creators, haven't been paying for health insurance they keep crying about. The temp services pay for all that. Besides, Obamacare was just peachy when the Conservative Right first drafted it.
You assume I liked GW Bush? The only good thing about him was that he was John Kerry and his socialistic ways. Yeah obummercare was a good idea when it wasn't gonna destroy the country.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
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You assume I liked GW Bush?
I assume you voted for him --- twice.
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UdintEARNthat wrote:
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Besides, Obamacare was just peachy when the Conservative Right first drafted it.
Yeah, today it's mostly forgotten that the mandate has its origins in a 1989 Heritage foundation document, and that major Republicans supported it:

"The concept of the individual health insurance mandate is considered to have originated in 1989 at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO). In 2007, Democrats and Republicans introduced a bi-partisan bill containing the mandate. "

http://healthcarereform.procon.org/view.resou...

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I somehow don't think the Heritage foundation designed it to cost families of four $20,000 per year.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
I somehow don't think the Heritage foundation designed it to cost families of four $20,000 per year.
The sky is falling...again. Now if only the GOP propaganda...I mean predictions were EVER right.
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UdintBuildThat wrote:
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You assume I liked GW Bush? The only good thing about him was that he was John Kerry and his socialistic ways. Yeah obummercare was a good idea when it wasn't gonna destroy the country.
When you say Socialism, do you mean like Social Security or are you referring to the infrastructure, police and fire services and the education of American children?

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UdintEARNthat wrote:
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When you say Socialism, do you mean like Social Security or are you referring to the infrastructure, police and fire services and the education of American children?
You are correct that is Socialism but not as Marxs describes it where Marxs said the government doesn't provide nothing for people which people have to work for it and why Modern Day Socialism here in the US is going to fail and the reason is some people are paying(givers) and some are not(takers) which most are part of the Entitlement Society and that is what is killing the United States Socially & Economically which we have to many takers only.

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UdintEARNthat wrote:
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When you say Socialism, do you mean like Social Security or are you referring to the infrastructure, police and fire services and the education of American children?
Social Security is a straight up ponzi scheme.

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UdintBuildThat wrote:
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Social Security is a straight up ponzi scheme.
and No rights to Social Security what so ever the SCOTUS Ruled in 1960 in the case of Flemmng v Nestor and it was because of Section 1104 of the 1935 Act, entitled "RESERVATION OF POWER," specifically said: "The right to alter, amend, or repeal any provision of this Act is hereby reserved to the Congress." Even so, some have thought that this reservation was in some way unconstitutional.

This is the issue finally settled by Flemming v. Nestor.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html
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UdintEARNthat wrote:
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When you say Socialism, do you mean like Social Security or are you referring to the infrastructure, police and fire services and the education of American children?
Socialism. As in the cradle-to-grave nanny state government.
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Valid points. I am amazed at all of those that don't think that Detroit can happen to the country. Just a shocking level of non-thinking!
Detroit is a role model for California if they don't get their act together.
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UdintEARNthat wrote:
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A temp work force is nothing new. It's the country GW Bush created. Besides, all those lazy kids of the guy who started the company...oops...I mean highly valued job creators, haven't been paying for health insurance they keep crying about. The temp services pay for all that. Besides, Obamacare was just peachy when the Conservative Right first drafted it.
It was? Then why didn't it receive any support? Why was it never introduced as serious legislation by the Republican party?

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xxxrayted wrote:
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Detroit is a role model for California if they don't get their act together.
Exactly try to tell Frank & Spocko that.

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xxxrayted wrote:
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Socialism. As in the cradle-to-grave nanny state government.
that is Exactly how the Modern Pseudo Liberals view Socialism and how it should function.

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