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#76282 Feb 9, 2013
Norton wrote:
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What are you....one of those New Agers? I could care less about those other religions. They are cults! The Holy Bible is all I need. The Bible says not to add to it or take away from it. You need to study some eschatoloty and find the real truth. We all have a free will. Adam and Eve had a free will. The disobeyed God and you see where that got them. That is how sin started. That is why we are all sinners. Jesus died for our sins..........AND all we have to do is believe that. How much more simple can that be? People try to make it so complicated. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the unforgiveable sin. I don't need a broader view........the truth is in the Bible. People have tried to destroy it but they will never get that done. I hope if Missouri Baptist Univ. has all those other text it is to prove they are all cults. We have a free will to go to heaven or hell. It's up to each individual.

CHEERS!
I admire your loyalty to God, I'm not trying to convince you to diminish that relationship. But I'm just a ol hillbilly from Missouri that grew up thinking more knowledge is a good thing - it's not destructive unless you have that trait in your personality.:

TripleNegative

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#76283 Feb 9, 2013
Poos ur daddy wrote:
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I admire your loyalty to God, I'm not trying to convince you to diminish that relationship. But I'm just a ol hillbilly from Missouri that grew up thinking more knowledge is a good thing - it's not destructive unless you have that trait in your personality.:
First, you are hardly a hillbilly. They have distinct features such as three ears, a propensity for looking cross-eyed during thunder storms, and an inability to do higher mathematics without an adding machine.

Now let me set this straight—Norton puzzles me. He is correct with his assertion that you are not to 'add nor take away', yet he should tell that to those who added The Rapture.

Knowledge is a wonderful thing, and although Christ admonished those who ridiculed the 'simple and unlearned', once again followers oversimplified his teachings much like his quotation about "The Eye of the Needle". The Eye was a specific place in the walls of Jerusalem, where camels and animals of burden were forced to kneel to enter the city's gates, and crawl upon their knees. It was built that way to make it difficult for marauding cavalry to enter quickly.

Later, the scripture was changed into a literal interpretation, "It is easier for a rich man to go through the Eye Of The Needle, than for him to enter the Kingdom of Heaven." If you take it literally meaning a real needle, it becomes impossible. The gate is quite possible if you get on your knees.

How many people know this? Or better yet, how many people want to know the real meaning? It's far simpler to belittle rich people and keep them out of your heaven.

I could go into the discussion about 'Spending an eternity without God is comparable to burning in the fires of Gehenna forever.' Gehenna was a Roman dump for all sorts of refuge, where fires consuming trash, bodies, and various other things, burned 24 hours seven days per week. He did not state that people would burn forever if they refused to believe in his father. He was stating that 'it would be better to burn in the dump forever than to spend an eternity without God/his Father.'

The truth is, the truth is not very popular much of anywhere, it appears. Therefore knowledge is indeed important. Christ spoke rather often in parables because the times required it, and his audience was rather simple and unlearned. The best way to get any point across is with stories or analogies.

Now pay close attention here. I am about to take flak for that which I know to be true, to be considered blasphemy because other people have been taught incorrectly and poorly for so long, even the ridiculous has become factual.

Hell as a place does not exist. Heaven exists with the Father. To be without the father for eternity is comparable to burning forever in a fire. It's not the punishment, it's a comparison. Yet what could be worse than an eternity without God? Not fire and brimstone.

That's the difference between learning the facts and professing to have learned the facts. It's true, like it or not. I am not anti-God nor a blasphemer. I deal with facts, not suppositions such as The Rapture, or the eye of A needle as opposed to the Eye Of The Needle—a real place. <sigh>

Here it comes.

TripleNegative

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#76284 Feb 9, 2013
Poos ur daddy wrote:
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And I appreciate your posts as well....your quote is most appropriate. NORTON probably has a true grasp on HIS interpretation of the Bible but he is so enamored by his self professed 'common sense' he is undaunted by obstacles such as facts. When he is contradicted he's perfectly comfortable in his oblivion.
NORTON judges my concepts of Christianity as evil and irreverant because I call his narrow-mindedness a handicap. I am inclined to believe God exists but I like to think He has enough self confidence to invite mortals to exercise free will by asking questions and looking for answers.
I've encouraged NO-NO-NORTON to investigate beyond the KJV Holy Bible. Missouri Baptist University has an extensive collection of texts not only about Christianity and the Bible; but also on Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, atheism, satanism, etc. Their philosophy is a better understanding of spiritual beliefs provides a broader worldview rather than blasphemy as construed by NORTON.
Absolutely! If God had wanted sheep, he would have made sheep. He made human beings, gave us Free Will, and then he chuckles while watching people such as Norton ruin every premise of Love, Compassion, and Faith with his antiquated version of Common Sense Does Jerusalem.

I have met many a Norton in my day, and they cannot be altered beyond the superficial. They learned everything they needed to know by the time they were 12, and will spend the remainder of their lives in turmoil and splendor—depending upon the prevailing headwinds of the time.

God made mankind in his image. He is brilliant. How many brilliant people want their children to grow up to be narrow-minded nincompoops? Yet I can live with the Nortons of the world if I keep my disatnce. Yet he and his ilk are the reason why so many youngsters no longer bother studying anything requiring faith except Bigfoot, Aliens, and Nostradamus quatrains.

Keep the faith, keep learning, and keep up the good fight. You are not far from the Kingdom of Heaven—as Christ said to Nicodemus, even when he was puzzled as to what was the meaning of the 'That which is spirit is spirit; that which is flesh is flesh' quotation.

Nicodemus, unlike his fellow Pharisees, was willing to try to understand Christ's teachings. So are you. Christ was no heathen nor a nincompoop. He was a theological scholar.

TripleNegative

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#76285 Feb 9, 2013
*** distance

TripleNegative

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#76286 Feb 9, 2013
***refuse, not refuge . . . I type too quickly, yet I know the difference, as do you.
bob

United States

#76287 Feb 9, 2013
All crooks

TripleNegative

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#76288 Feb 9, 2013
bob wrote:
All crooks
Politicians? Absolutely.

Yet, it's nothing that a dozen sharpened Guillotines could not remedy in a few days. They're a cancer upon this former Republic. They deserve it.

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76290 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
<quoted text>{To "Poos ur daddy":} I have always loved this quotation, used by Thoreau when he was lambasted by someone incorrectly with the same old 'common sense' nonsense:
"There is absolutely no common sense; it is all common nonsense."
People use the 'common sense card' when their argument holds less water than an adult diaper.
I agree with your post—thanks for the response. It is good to find intellectual Christians who take the time to think and not react with their gut only.
At least we agree about "Norton."
Norton

Overland Park, KS

#76291 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
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First, you are hardly a hillbilly. They have distinct features such as three ears, a propensity for looking cross-eyed during thunder storms, and an inability to do higher mathematics without an adding machine.
Now let me set this straight—Norton puzzles me. He is correct with his assertion that you are not to 'add nor take away', yet he should tell that to those who added The Rapture.
Knowledge is a wonderful thing, and although Christ admonished those who ridiculed the 'simple and unlearned', once again followers oversimplified his teachings much like his quotation about "The Eye of the Needle". The Eye was a specific place in the walls of Jerusalem, where camels and animals of burden were forced to kneel to enter the city's gates, and crawl upon their knees. It was built that way to make it difficult for marauding cavalry to enter quickly.
Later, the scripture was changed into a literal interpretation, "It is easier for a rich man to go through the Eye Of The Needle, than for him to enter the Kingdom of Heaven." If you take it literally meaning a real needle, it becomes impossible. The gate is quite possible if you get on your knees.
How many people know this? Or better yet, how many people want to know the real meaning? It's far simpler to belittle rich people and keep them out of your heaven.
I could go into the discussion about 'Spending an eternity without God is comparable to burning in the fires of Gehenna forever.' Gehenna was a Roman dump for all sorts of refuge, where fires consuming trash, bodies, and various other things, burned 24 hours seven days per week. He did not state that people would burn forever if they refused to believe in his father. He was stating that 'it would be better to burn in the dump forever than to spend an eternity without God/his Father.'
The truth is, the truth is not very popular much of anywhere, it appears. Therefore knowledge is indeed important. Christ spoke rather often in parables because the times required it, and his audience was rather simple and unlearned. The best way to get any point across is with stories or analogies.
Now pay close attention here. I am about to take flak for that which I know to be true, to be considered blasphemy because other people have been taught incorrectly and poorly for so long, even the ridiculous has become factual.
Hell as a place does not exist. Heaven exists with the Father. To be without the father for eternity is comparable to burning forever in a fire. It's not the punishment, it's a comparison. Yet what could be worse than an eternity without God? Not fire and brimstone.
That's the difference between learning the facts and professing to have learned the facts. It's true, like it or not. I am not anti-God nor a blasphemer. I deal with facts, not suppositions such as The Rapture, or the eye of A needle as opposed to the Eye Of The Needle—a real place. <sigh>
Here it comes.
:) Yep, here it comes! Where do you get that the rapture is not in the Bible? It is......only is says "catching away" or "caught up", etc. I don't know what Bible you study but my Bible says there will be a Rapture and I believe it. "The eye of the needle".........to me means that it will not be easy to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The reason being that people will find it difficult to believe and have the faith. The Bible speaks of Hell more times than Heaven! Humm, wonder why? Remember Lazarus? Why would there be a heaven and not a hell? Makes no sense!

You correct that "people have been taught incorrectly and poorly".
I don't make any statements that cannot be proven scripturely. Am I perfect, no! Do I know everything, no! However, I believe the Bible to be the Word of God. I believe every word to be true. So, when you say there is not a Rapture or a Hell...you are taking away from the word of God because the Bible says there is a Heaven, a Hell and there is going to be a Rapture. I rest my case.

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76292 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
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All things are a result of Free Will—that's what God gave everyone including you. Use it to abuse sarcasm and poor Christian insults. I admire good sarcasm—when will you provide some?
Perhaps when you are able to use standard ASCII characters -- especially in your dictionary quotes and your headline:

Contentious — Pretentious

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76293 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
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All things are a result of Free Will— that's what God gave everyone including you. Use it to abuse sarcasm and poor Christian insults. I admire good sarcasm—when will you provide some?
All things are a result of "Free Will"? Really?

The sun? The moon? Came from "Free Will"? ROFL! Duh!

Here's my take on God's "Free Will": Kiss my azz or burn in Hell!

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76294 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
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It reminds me of the plot by the Obamites to raise gasoline prices to equal those of Europe, so they could tax us into oblivion. The prices went up and never came down. The government is like a heroin addict—you give them more, and they will require more.
Anything that the government becomes involved in, they screw up. Take the Post Office as the best example. They are obsolete and will be out of business soon. Private enterprise will take over and do it better— unless the socialists like you take over and destroy private enterprise altogether.
1. US gas prices have NEVER in the past 50 years been more than European prices, where they have extremely high taxes on fuel.

US gas prices were the HIGHEST IN US HISTORY in the summer of 2008 under Bush43. So was Bush43 trying to tax you into oblivion?

http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/The...

2. So the US military is screwed up? The government is "involved in" the US military. As to the US Postal Service, electronic communications have taken away many of their sources of revenue, like mailed letters. I send very few personal letters anymore, because I can either use email or call the person directly.

3. One good example of "private enterprise" taking over governmental services was when companies were contracted to run penitentiaries. Corrupt judges kept sending innocent people (in the worst cases, children) back to jail time and time again to be raised by what you seem to be in love with: "private enterprise."

4. If you wish to call me a "socialist," be my guest. What you call me tells me more about YOU than it tells me about ME. Your pitiful efforts to appear to be an "intellectual" are highly amusing to me.

(So are your insults to "Norton." I do so love to see you "Christians" fighting each other over dogma.)

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76295 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
"I adhere to the maxim that 'He who is governed least, is governed best.' And when mankind is ready for it,'he who is governed not at all, is governed best'."
HDT
So do you think that "mankind" is "ready for it"? You do not want ANY governing at all? Yeah. The "Law of the Jungle" should work JUST FINE! For the tigers.

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76296 Feb 10, 2013
Poos ur daddy wrote:
<quoted text> ... I've encouraged NO-NO-NORTON to investigate beyond the KJV Holy Bible. Missouri Baptist University has an extensive collection of texts not only about Christianity and the Bible; but also on Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, atheism, satanism, etc. Their philosophy is a better understanding of spiritual beliefs provides a broader worldview rather than blasphemy as construed by NORTON.
How is that working out for you with "Norton"?

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76297 Feb 10, 2013
Norton wrote:
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My common sense tells me that you are completely, totally out of your mind....
That's might Christian of you to say that.

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76298 Feb 10, 2013
Norton wrote:
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You're in the OT under the Law. We are not under the Law. We are under the period of Grace and I can eat anything I want....
I love being in OT. Always makes a ballgame more exciting!

And ... what does Grace think about that?

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76299 Feb 10, 2013
Gun Grabber Commies wrote:
... Yet, removing handguns from those deemed to be a threat by the government defeats the purpose of the Second Amendment. After a citizen has displayed threatening behavior towards himself or others, and after being given due process protections in a court of law, that person can be judged and incarcerated for his own protection and the protection of others....
So the Aurora theater shooter James Holmes was within his Second Amendment rights, as he had not been judged and incarcerated for the protection of others?

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76300 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
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First, you are hardly a hillbilly. They have distinct features such as three ears, a propensity for looking cross-eyed during thunder storms, and an inability to do higher mathematics without an adding machine....
Similarly, you are hardly an intellectual, despite your feeble attempts to try to act like you are one.

(Side comment: one cannot do "higher math" on an adding machine.)

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76301 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
***refuse, not refuge ... I type too quickly, yet I know the difference, as do you.
Contentious — Pretentious

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#76302 Feb 10, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
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Politicians? Absolutely.
Yet, it's nothing that a dozen sharpened Guillotines could not remedy in a few days. They're a cancer upon this former Republic. They deserve it.
Ah, yes! Back to the French Revolution! You have such a grasp of present reality.

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