OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Bud

United States

#56306 Dec 30, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! I guess posting to idiots like you is a big waste of my time, but someone needs to set you straight on how the world really works.
Children that are aborted are not wanted. Children that are born, but not wanted are abused. Abused children become wards of the state. So what do you think is cheaper? If your against abortion for moral reasons I can live with that, even thought I believe an abused child is a much worse moral offense, but thinking that an abortion costs you more than the state raising a child for up to eighteen years is just plain asinine.
You admitted in the past that you don't do anything for abused children so really you have no right to complain, because you've proven time after time that you really have no Christian values.
What could be more Christian than refusing to 'finance' someone killing children? Consider it another way if a country is 'cleansing' itself of a part of it's population wouldn't you be morally responsible to stop the cleansing? Perhaps a third hypothesis is needed for you...if you were a country involved in millions of terroristic activities causing death and destroying lives the moral position would be to embargo doing any business with that country right?

DoesntMatter has taken the position she will not finance, or do business with, she has an embargo on abortions done with her money.

To claim DoesntMatter isn't a Christian is putting yourself in the place of GOD perhaps your background is so impressive it's escaped the mass media but frankly I've never heard anyone say a word about you in the press?
Bud

United States

#56307 Dec 30, 2013
Karen and Sowhat are parts of the same PIG.
So What

Newalla, OK

#56308 Dec 30, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
It bothers me that with all the different birth control products offered today to females that so many thinks it is Ok to use abortion as birth control. Most females know that at any given time they will probably have sex and in having sex and if they are not protecting themselves there is a high chance of getting pregnant. Why is it everyone's else's responsibility to pay for those females stupidity? If these females don't want babies but want the fun of sex why don't they do something permanent to prevent getting pregnant?
I don't think that anyone has sex with thought of: I prefer to have an abortion instead of using birth control. The problem is that their sex drive is more powerful than their ability to use common sense. Those are the people that should not be having children because society has to foot the bill for their actions in to many cases.

Lack of good judgment or reasonability is the major breakdown of our society. This is the main problem I have with so called Liberals, they don't seem to have a problem with funding irresponsible actions, which only promotes them.

But at the same time the conservative right has a problem with contraceptives being funded. They think people should practice abstinence, which is not what we where designed to do.

I think we should have free condom machines, and if your to lazy or stupid to use them, you better be able to foot your own bill. Why should I have to pay for it?
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#56310 Dec 30, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think that anyone has sex with thought of: I prefer to have an abortion instead of using birth control. The problem is that their sex drive is more powerful than their ability to use common sense. Those are the people that should not be having children because society has to foot the bill for their actions in to many cases.
Lack of good judgment or reasonability is the major breakdown of our society. This is the main problem I have with so called Liberals, they don't seem to have a problem with funding irresponsible actions, which only promotes them.
But at the same time the conservative right has a problem with contraceptives being funded. They think people should practice abstinence, which is not what we where designed to do.
I think we should have free condom machines, and if your to lazy or stupid to use them, you better be able to foot your own bill. Why should I have to pay for it?
My kids were born 63,65, & 68 and even at that time birth control pills or condoms or anything else was not covered by insurance..
I am tired of the taxpayers having to pick up the tab for the ones that seem to think they are owed being taken care of by the government which is the taxpayers.
Liz

United States

#56311 Dec 30, 2013
by Matthew Boyle 30 Dec 2013, 2:36 PM PDT 214 post a comment


The recent New York Times article attempting to downplay terrorist involvement in the Benghazi attack that claimed the lives of four Americans on Sept. 11, 2012, directly contradicts evidence in the now infamous pre-edited talking points of then-United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice.
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Oh my....
Liz

United States

#56312 Dec 30, 2013
Liz

United States

#56313 Dec 30, 2013
Politico Magazine: 2013 'Great Year for Al Qaeda' Despite Obama's Claims

by Edwin Mora 30 Dec 2013, 5:07 PM PDT 23 post a comment

Al Qaeda’s resilience to the demise of its leader Osama bin Laden proved to be strong in 2013, argued an article published by Politico Magazine.

The Dec. 29 article written by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross is entitled “Al Qaeda’s Big Year” and covers the terrorist group’s “comeback in 2013.” Gartenstein-Ross, an expert on al Qaeda and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, produced a startling list of successful al Qaeda operations since January.

According to the article,“any way you measure it, 2013 was a good year for al Qaeda.” It noted that 2013 was not supposed to be a year of success considering that Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan on May 2, 2011.

“But as this year ends, the jihadist group’s regional affiliates have dramatically reasserted themselves in multiple countries, carrying out spectacular attacks and inflicting increasing levels of carnage,” he explained. "Though it’s hard to come by reliable estimates of the deaths they caused, the number is certainly in the thousands, and more than half a dozen countries now view these affiliates, or foreigners who have joined their ranks, as their top national security concern.”

One example of al Qaeda’s resurgence was a series of jailbreaks in three different nations, all of which occurred in July. At least 1,867 prisoners, including potential jihadists, were freed courtesy of prison breaks at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison (500 inmates freed), Benghazi’s Kuafiya prison (1,117), and Dera Ismail Khan in Pakistan (250). U.S. officials suspected that al-Qaeda was behind the prison breaks, especially considering their close timetable, according to the article.“These jailbreaks are significant to al Qaeda’s future capabilities,” it added.

Meanwhile, the article pointed out that in 2013 “al Qaeda’s biggest gain was perhaps the July military coup that deposed Egyptian president Mohamed Morsi, and the often brutal crackdown on protesters that followed. After the coup, jihadist groups in the Sinai went on an immediate offensive, with targets including security officers and Christians.”

Gartenstein-Ross pointed out that throughout the year al Qaeda’s regeneration was concentrated in the African countries of Mali, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, and Somalia, home to the violent al Qaeda affiliate known as al-Shabaab. However, al Qaeda also made a comeback through operations in Iraq, Syria, and Yemen.

The article explained that “by the end of 2013, more than 6,000 Iraqis had died in violence, the highest level of fatalities since 2007, the peak year of Iraq’s bloody civil war.” Al Qaeda also grew stronger out of its operations in Syria where it fought as “some of the country’s most effective rebel factions,” building on the gains jihadists made there in 2012.

President Obama, on various occasions throughout 2013, had described the jihadist group as “decimated” or some other variation of that word. On August 5, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney defended Obama’s claim, saying Obama was only referring to the “al Qaeda core" in the Af-Pak region.

According to the article, the jihadist group's “affiliates’ regeneration became so apparent over the course of this year that President Barack Obama was forced to clarify that his administration’s various claims of al Qaeda’s decimation were limited to the core leadership in Pakistan alone.”

“Because of the striking developments that occurred this year, thinkers like retired Marine Corps general James Mattis now describe early predictions of al Qaeda’s demise as ‘premature and... now discredited.’ This conflict will neither wrap up as neatly nor as quickly as almost anybody would hope,” later added Gartenstein-Ross.

Obama, he argues, was simply wrong about al Qaeda's being decimated.

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Obama bin Lyin again!
So What

Newalla, OK

#56314 Dec 30, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>My kids were born 63,65, & 68 and even at that time birth control pills or condoms or anything else was not covered by insurance..
I am tired of the taxpayers having to pick up the tab for the ones that seem to think they are owed being taken care of by the government which is the taxpayers.
There you go again. You need to stop giving out personal information.

I would prefer to pay for peoples' contraceptives than having to pay for their children's public assistance. It would be so much cheaper. Then maybe we could figure out how to educate them, so that they aren't selfish, self centered heathens.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#56315 Dec 30, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I realize that. I am wondering if there would be some way to come up with a way to work a class that could teach kids how to become responsible adults. It seems that virtue in a lot of people now days have become lost.
No one's required to have personal responsibility anymore. You can just murder babies now. And somewhere along the line, someone decided that unwanted babies are a "burden on society" and it costs too much to take care of them so it's okay to kill them. I wonder who will be the next class of people they will deem a burden on society so it's okay to kill them too?
Liz

United States

#56316 Dec 30, 2013
Geez you need to chill the heck out.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#56317 Dec 30, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again. You need to stop giving out personal information.
I would prefer to pay for peoples' contraceptives than having to pay for their children's public assistance. It would be so much cheaper. Then maybe we could figure out how to educate them, so that they aren't selfish, self centered heathens.
My point was about my kids that we back then just did what needed to be done when it came to getting pregnant or not. Back then there were many medications that insurance would not cover.
Now let me back up when The Pill first came on the market It was covered by insurance. Then I guess because so many women went on it insurance stopped covering it. There were several medication insurance stopped covering because to many people were using them. I guess they were losing money. The 2 I remember the most was The Pill and Allergy meds. This because I used both. But because it was something we used we went ahead and put the cost of the meds in our budget and handled it. If women or the husband and wife wanted a more permanent solution to birth control we took responsibility and tool care of it. I can not understand why the ones that are in the age range of getting pregnant don't take responsibility in protecting themselves from unwanted births. As you and other have pointed out my generation and more so women was not as educated and they are at your age and now and the majority of us knew the law of having sex was you can get PG and if you do not want to, do the best you can to protect yourself.
Liz

United States

#56318 Dec 30, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
No one's required to have personal responsibility anymore. You can just murder babies now. And somewhere along the line, someone decided that unwanted babies are a "burden on society" and it costs too much to take care of them so it's okay to kill them. I wonder who will be the next class of people they will deem a burden on society so it's okay to kill them too?
The elderly, infirmed, and mentally challenged. Starting to sound more like Nazism doesn't it? To paraphrase Karen Janbaz "the inconvenient" should be done away with since they are a drain on society much like her unborn child was inconvenient for her.
Jenks

United States

#56319 Dec 30, 2013
Global warming scientists forced to admit defeat... because of too much ice: Stranded Antarctic ship's crew will be rescued by helicopter

•Chris Turney, a climate scientist and leader of the expedition, was going to document 'environmental changes' at the pole
•In an interview he said he expected melting ice to play a part in expedition
•MV Akademik Schokalskiy still stuck among thick ice sheet 1,500 nautical miles south of Hobart, the Tasmanian capital

•Called for help at 5am Christmas morning after becoming submerged in ice
•Australia's back-up ship, Aurora Australis could not break through

By Mia De Graaf and Hayley O'keeffe

PUBLISHED: 08:19 EST, 30 December 2013 | UPDATED: 14:42 EST, 30 December 2013

They went in search evidence of the world’s melting ice caps, but instead a team of climate scientists have been forced to abandon their mission … because the Antarctic ice is thicker than usual at this time of year.

The scientists have been stuck aboard the stricken MV Akademik Schokalskiy since Christmas Day, with repeated sea rescue attempts being abandoned as icebreaking ships failed to reach them.

Now that effort has been ditched, with experts admitting the ice is just too thick. Instead the crew have built an icy helipad, with plans afoot to rescue the 74-strong team by helicopter.
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ROFLMAO...how many millions did Al Gore make from telling the global warming lie over and over and over?
Agnostic

Oklahoma City, OK

#56320 Dec 31, 2013
So What

They don't give a crap about those 'babies' they keep talking about...The fuss about damn health care insurance going to the future mom's that are pregnant with those fetuses.

They don't give a crap about those fetuses...They fuss about the damn welfare that goes to feed the future mom's fetuses.

They want their tax money left in their pockets...Their old, getting pregnant is not their concern any longer...and their scared of losing a penny of medicare funding that goes to them.

Their just the useful idiots of people that are way more richer than them. The rich are more than happy to stoke their religious fever and use the abortion wars to keep them in their camp.

No matter how many times their told that other countries abortion rates are nominal because they use real sex education in schools and not the stupid 'abstinence only' crap, with cheap birth control measures, it won't stick. Just like universal health care bring about better health and a longer life span...

To repeat their just useful idiots...The future doesn't belong to them...Their numbers are shrinking daily....And more open minded people are moving down South and will slowly turn the Red to Purple to Blue...They lost and they don't even know it....
Agnostic

Oklahoma City, OK

#56321 Dec 31, 2013
Also if the useful idiots knew anything about the economics, they would know that this economy is not conducive to making the babies...

But raising the minimum wage...h^ll no....making schooling in the state cheaper and better funded...h*ll no...a stimulus to build up our crumbling infrastructure with the added benefit of more jobs at better pay...h*ll no...that there is a place for Unions that represent the working man...h*ll no...because their useful idiots....they want low taxes for their masters
Agnostic

Oklahoma City, OK

#56322 Dec 31, 2013
Hey Tea Pots....your master's are coming to try and take you down...their declaring war on you....lol

On Christmas, Republicans Quietly Declare War on Themselves

"...the Republican Party last week quietly declared war on itself, in the process essentially confessing to a generation of failed governance and dumbed-down politics.

You know who their talking about? You religious right wingnut tea pots.....after all you done for them....but you played the part so well of useful idiots...way to go...lol

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So What

Newalla, OK

#56323 Dec 31, 2013
Liz wrote:
<quoted text>
The elderly, infirmed, and mentally challenged. Starting to sound more like Nazism doesn't it? To paraphrase Karen Janbaz "the inconvenient" should be done away with since they are a drain on society much like her unborn child was inconvenient for her.
It's not my fault someone is old or stupid, why should I have pay for them to live? Sounds like a socialist program to me. I don't believe people should be given a free ride, it only makes them older and stupider. I agree with Bud, All people have the right to suffer including children, if God didn't want them to live he would have put them in the middle east and had us kill them, we are his favorites you know.
So What

Newalla, OK

#56324 Dec 31, 2013
Bud wrote:
<quoted text>
What could be more Christian than refusing to 'finance' someone killing children? Consider it another way if a country is 'cleansing' itself of a part of it's population wouldn't you be morally responsible to stop the cleansing? Perhaps a third hypothesis is needed for you...if you were a country involved in millions of terroristic activities causing death and destroying lives the moral position would be to embargo doing any business with that country right?
DoesntMatter has taken the position she will not finance, or do business with, she has an embargo on abortions done with her money.
To claim DoesntMatter isn't a Christian is putting yourself in the place of GOD perhaps your background is so impressive it's escaped the mass media but frankly I've never heard anyone say a word about you in the press?
LOL! I didn't say DoesntMatter wasn't a Christian. I said, "you've proven time after time that you really have no Christian values". I would ask if you are "infirmed" but my guess would be that you wouldn't know the answer if you were.

Do you even know what a hypothesis is? I'm sure WFO will tell you what word you could have used if he could find it in his heart to waste some time. His words not mine.

If I was another country, I would probably think you just described the U.S. of A. But I'll play along. If I was " a country and was involved in millions of terroristic activities causing death and destroying lives" would I embargo myself? I'm 100% certain I would not embargo myself. Why would I embargo myself? But if it would make you feel better I guess I could sexually harass myself, but not for very long, because I'm sure " millions of terroristic activities" takes a lot of time and energy. Look what it did to Chaney, I'm surprised he could find the time to shoot his friend in the face, but at least his friend apologized for taking up so much of his valuable time.

You really haven't heard of me? People say my name all of the time. Where have you been?
Bud

United States

#56325 Dec 31, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text> It's not my fault someone is old or stupid, why should I have pay for them to live? Sounds like a socialist program to me. I don't believe people should be given a free ride, it only makes them older and stupider. I agree with Bud, All people have the right to suffer including children, if God didn't want them to live he would have put them in the middle east and had us kill them, we are his favorites you know.
You and your more radical half are still part of the same trashy stinky pig. You were making harsh definitive statements against a poster and I simply pointed out that DoesntMatter is coming from a moral grounded opinion of which you completely failed to recognize because you were too busy looking for a way to score points.

Instead you come off as a jerk which might or might not have been your intention in the first place....but you shouldn't blame me for your utter failures after all it's your stated opinion not mine. Step up and accepted what you worked so hard to achieve!

Again what is your and Karen's fixation on religion? Did a religious person pee in your cornflakes? No one else throws religion into a discussion like the radicals SowHat and Karen and whichever name she's posting under.

People on Medicare PAID INTO MEDICARE THEIR ENTIRE LIFE so they are receiving what was promised to them for a working lifetime. Medicare was their old age insurance if you will and I don't begrudge them after all they paid for it. You and Karen are those who agreed it's alright to steal 719 billion of Medicare money away from the elderly and put it into the ObamaCare program which is a nightmare of gigantic proportions. Biggest government boondoggle I've ever seen. Your post also implies you agree with Karen that the old are too be done away with...WOW kill babies and old people is your position. I hope your relatives are all aware of your point of view especially your spouse.

One can only hope you benefit the rewards of your opinions personally since you believe so strongly.
Bud

United States

#56326 Dec 31, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text> LOL! I didn't say DoesntMatter wasn't a Christian. I said, "you've proven time after time that you really have no Christian values". I would ask if you are "infirmed" but my guess would be that you wouldn't know the answer if you were.
Do you even know what a hypothesis is? I'm sure WFO will tell you what word you could have used if he could find it in his heart to waste some time. His words not mine.
If I was another country, I would probably think you just described the U.S. of A. But I'll play along. If I was " a country and was involved in millions of terroristic activities causing death and destroying lives" would I embargo myself? I'm 100% certain I would not embargo myself. Why would I embargo myself? But if it would make you feel better I guess I could sexually harass myself, but not for very long, because I'm sure " millions of terroristic activities" takes a lot of time and energy. Look what it did to Chaney, I'm surprised he could find the time to shoot his friend in the face, but at least his friend apologized for taking up so much of his valuable time.
You really haven't heard of me? People say my name all of the time. Where have you been?
Ridiculousness, like I stated before 2 halves of the same pig.

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