OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52746 Nov 18, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>
It's too much fun belittling you.
Since I'm rich, I can easily repute
your claims. I'm familiar with
life at the top and no one well off
keeps $26M in a jar.
And no one, no matter how deranged,
has 7 outta 6 of his posts censored by
TOPIX as you claim.
Beware, the IRS monitors your posts.


You offer no truth. Just drivel.
You've already displayed your ignorance... no need to do it again.
Bud

United States

#52747 Nov 18, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
"Left" and "Right": A little Bible study
Remember what Jesus said:'Goats on the left, sheep on the right'.
To Peter,'if you want to catch fish do it from the right side of the boat. They did and filled the boat.
Origin of Left & Right...
I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left”.
By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)
Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen. Can't get any simpler than that.
Spelling Lesson
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
End of lesson. Test to follow in November 6, 2014
Remember, November is to be set aside as:
"Rodent Removal Month".
In God We Trust
A little something to think about!
So Sayeth a Fox HO!!!!!!!!!!
Marge

United States

#52748 Nov 18, 2013
Fox News---We Deceive, You Believe.

It has been revealed that Fox News’ does practice using paid commenters with fake social media accounts, to deceive the online community. Members of Fox’s online PR staff created between twenty and a hundred fake profiles on social media accounts each. The accounts are used by PR staff in order to push the station’s extreme right-wing agenda.

The point of these fake commenters is not just to push a specific agenda. It’s also to deceive the unsuspecting public about the actual amount of support that exists for that agenda. Paid commenters use vicious attacks against anyone who posts an opposing opinion. Eventually the attacks have the effect of driving people with opposite views away from the targeted sites. This allows them to dominate the web with their fake profiles, while at the same time discouraging real people from participating in the discussion.

The right-wing agenda being pushed by these paid commenters, hired by Fox and other sources, doesn’t just include tax breaks for the rich and the myth of corporate person-hood. It includes racism, sexism, homophobia, hatred of the poor and much more
Lisa

United States

#52749 Nov 18, 2013
Do Not Feed The Fox Trolls.
Ace

United States

#52750 Nov 18, 2013
[QUOTE who=" FAKE Marge aka Karen Janbaz, SoWhat"]MSNBC News---We Deceive, You Believe.
It has been revealed that MSNBC News’ does practice using paid commenters with fake social media accounts, to deceive the online community. Members of MSNBC’s online PR staff created between twenty and a hundred fake profiles on social media accounts each. The accounts are used by PR staff in order to push the station’s extreme RADICAL LEFT-wing agenda.
The point of these fake commenters is not just to push a specific agenda. It’s also to deceive the unsuspecting public about the actual amount of support that exists for that agenda. Paid commenters use vicious attacks against anyone who posts an opposing opinion. Eventually the attacks have the effect of driving people with opposite views away from the targeted sites. This allows them to dominate the web with their fake profiles, while at the same time discouraging real people from participating in the discussion.
The RADICAL LEFT-wing agenda being pushed by these paid commenters, hired by MSNBC and other sources, doesn’t just include tax breaks for the rich and the myth of corporate person-hood. It includes racism, sexism, homophobia, hatred of the poor and much more[/QUOTE]

Yes, we know!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#52751 Nov 18, 2013
Bud wrote:
<quoted text>
So Sayeth a Fox HO!!!!!!!!!!
You need to start spreading your wings and fly farther than Fox everything. In other words get out of your Rut HO!!!!!!!!!!
DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#52752 Nov 18, 2013
"Gamechanger: Afghanistan veteran and Tea Partier enters SC Senate race to defeat Lindsey Graham

Frustration among conservatives over SC Senator Lindsey Graham has continued to reach the boiling point as evidenced by the fact that Graham has received five official GOP censures from within SC over the last three months.

Enters Bill Connor: Connor is a Lt. Colonel in the Army reserve (Airborne Ranger 23 years) who volunteered for a tour in Afghanistan where he was awarded the Bronze Star and served as the US Senior Advisor in Helmand Province.

Connor spoke at one of the first tea parties in the nation on the banks of the Reedy River in Greenville in early 2009, something he says that fueled a fire in him and led him to get into statewide politics and to involvement with the tea party movement.

After returning from Afghanistan in 2010, Connor entered politics by running for Lt. Governor and made it into the GOP runoff against the establishment candidate Ken Ard. Ard later resigned in shame after taking office and receiving probation for misuse of campaign funds. Connor was the first candidate in 2010 to receive the endorsement of the afore mentioned Myrtle Beach Tea Party.

A graduate of The Citadel and the University of South Carolina (USC) School of Law, Connor also serves as Director of the Army’s Command and General Staff College (ILE) in SC and is a member of the U.S. Counterterrorism Advisory Team. Along with partner W. Thomas Smith Jr., Connor founded National Defense Consultants LLC, a partnership providing clients with military analysis ranging from geostrategy to special operations; counterterrorism; ground, naval, and air combat; military leadership and military law. He is also a practicing attorney.
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52753 Nov 18, 2013
Democrats have been hit by a public backlash over millions of people who have had their policies canceled because the plans do not meet new consumer protections mandated by the law. The administration's troubled enrollment Website, HealthCare . gov, also is still not working properly, more than six weeks after its launch.

Obama Quote:
“That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

– President Obama, speech to the American Medical Association, June 15, 2009 (as the health-care law was being written.)

“And if you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn’t happened yet. It won’t happen in the future.”

– Obama, remarks in Portland, April 1, 2010, after the health-care law was signed into law.

The administration is defending this pledge with a rather slim reed — that there is nothing in the law that makes insurance companies force people out of plans they were enrolled in before the law passed. That explanation conveniently ignores the regulations written by the administration to implement the law. Moreover, it also ignores the fact that the purpose of the law was to bolster coverage and mandate a robust set of benefits, whether someone wanted to pay for it or not.

The president’s statements were sweeping and unequivocal — and made both before and after the bill became law. The White House now cites technicalities to avoid admitting that he went too far in his repeated pledge, which, after all, is one of the most famous statements of his presidency.

Four Pinocchios for Obama
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52754 Nov 18, 2013
For all of those that keep saying...

"I'm glad I have coverage through my job" and feel that you are safe from losing your coverage, you are not safe!

The biggest provision of the ACA comes in 2015 when the employer mandate kicks in!

Then, is when you are in real danger of losing your insurance or your full-time status or both which is why Obama and Democrats opposed the Upton bill to make it a law you can keep your plan and Doctor!

I suspect that many are in this category and feel they do not have to comply... but everyone will have to comply eventually in order to aquire healthcare coverage!
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52755 Nov 18, 2013
The Obama administration has made March 31st as their deadline to sign up millions of unsuspecting Americans for their disaster, Obamacare. Let's send a message that we will not enroll...we will not comply!

Methods to share the event / invite your friends:
https://www.facebook.com/events/3696630198342...

There apparently seems to be some misunderstanding among some people regarding what this "event" is about and what it entails.

It is simply an ongoing online event/protest started yesterday and to run until March 31 (originally was Dec 15) to get as many people as we can to say that they will not comply with the Obamacare provision that we have to buy health insurance.

We are not assembling or gathering anywhere on any specific date. All you have to do to participate in this event is not sign up for Obamacare and click "going" on your computer at the top of the invitation.

If we can get tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people or even a million or more, the media will pay attention and our collective voices will be heard!

Please note: If you do not want to receive notifications, look underneath the cover picture. Find the arrow beside the gear icon and click it. From the drop down menu choose turn off notifications.

#Iwillnotcomply
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52756 Nov 18, 2013
Barack Obama's royal healthcare dictate, which he edits at his royal whim, punishes married couples!

This is a plain fact no longer worth debating: Barack Obama considers himself a ruler, his entire term time in office has been about rewarding his fellow statist/corporatist thugs and punishing law abiding citizens who play by the rules.
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#52757 Nov 18, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
Barack Obama's royal healthcare dictate, which he edits at his royal whim, punishes married couples!

.
I'm married and make millions annually.
I'm getting free Obamacare for my wife
next year.

Some punishment.

Just another example of how you're not
the rich (and smart) person you claim.
Ace

United States

#52758 Nov 18, 2013
WFO you say your married but never mentioned whether you and your wife file joint or individual tax returns?
Ace

United States

#52759 Nov 18, 2013
For that fact who knows whether you even have to file tax returns?
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52760 Nov 18, 2013
Chester wrote:
<quoted text> aka: WarForOil
I'm married and make millions annually. I'm getting free Obamacare for my wife next year. Some punishment. Just another example of how you're not the rich (and smart) person you claim.


So your boyfriend took on the title of wife... how cute, lol.

I did not say welfare leeches such as you Chester, will face punishment like a normal husband and wife. Obama does support your queer community.

Just another example of why you wear Black Spandex as you stated, lol.

Get Lost Fa ggot!
JAG

United States

#52762 Nov 18, 2013
Billionaire Carl Icahn is warning a BIG CORRECTION is coming in the stock market. Those who have mentioned this are Packing Heat, DoesntMatter and MistyGirl....our own thread's crystal ball to our financial questions, lol.
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52763 Nov 18, 2013
Mandates can have unintended consequences...

Higher premiums are an obvious occurrence when mandates force insurers to eliminate co-pays and other measures.

But other, even more deleterious side-effects are also common.

For example, the ACA requires insurers that cover dependents to cover those dependents until age 26. The insurers can raise premiums, of course.

But one way to avoid the added cost is to simply not insure children at all, which one large union decided to do:

One of the largest union-administered health-insurance funds in New York is dropping coverage for the children of more than 30,000 low-wage home attendants, union officials said. The reason? The union can't afford to insure "children" up to age 26, as "Obamacare" requires.

"New federal health-care reform legislation requires plans with dependent coverage to expand that coverage up to age 26,” Behroozi wrote in a letter to members Oct. 22.“Our limited resources are already stretched as far as possible, and meeting this new requirement would be financially impossible.”

Source: wsj

Health Care Union Drops Coverage for Children
Source: The Atlantic
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52764 Nov 18, 2013
Spouses also lose insurance under the ACA...

Why your boss is dumping your wife.

By denying coverage to spouses, employers not only save the annual premiums, but also the new fees that went into effect as part of the Affordable Care Act. This year, companies have to pay $1 or $2 “per life” covered on their plans, a sum that jumps to $65 in 2014. And health law guidelines proposed recently mandate coverage of employees’ dependent children (up to age 26), but husbands and wives are optional.

Firms that recently decided to drop spouses from their plans range from private insurance agencies to school systems and universities like Ball State, as well as large companies like pump and valve manufacturer Flowserve. Wisconsin-based furniture company KI carved out spouses this year when couples flocked to its plan for the first time during open enrollment.

Source: marketwatch
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52765 Nov 18, 2013
Medicare is underfunded by at least $23 trillion...

To think that our inept federal government can do a better job with the ACA is sheer lunacy.

2006 -- Trustees said Medicare insolvent in 2018
2011 -- Obama's Trustees said insolvent in 2017

Medicare Bound to Bust as First Boomers Hit 65

Starting New Year's Day 2011 10,000 Will Reach
Eligibility for Program Every Day for 19 Years, Risking Its Bankruptcy by 2017

• The number of people eligible will nearly double from 46 million to 80 million by the time all the boomers reach 65.
• It's estimated the cost will grow from $500 billion a year today to $929 billion by 2020.
• The number of workers supporting each senior will fall.

Medicare is already underfunded by at least $23 trillion. That's the difference between the benefits promised and the taxes actually being paid into Medicare. It could go bankrupt as early as 2017.

Sources: cbsnews

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/TRSUM/index.html

More links:

Medicare will run out of money in 8 years.

Source: businessinsider

A nearly identical forecast was released in May 2006:

Medicare's trust fund will run out of money in 2018, two years earlier than previously expected, the program's trustees reported Monday.

It's already operating in the red because it spends more on those services than it brings in. But the fund is now expected to be mostly depleted by 2018 unless Congress acts to lower spending or raise taxes.

Source: webmd
Packing Heat

Afton, OK

#52766 Nov 18, 2013
What is critical to understanding Democrats...

You have to remember that the Democratic Party is made up of groups that define themselves BY their victimhood.

When the Dems make a comment about protecting the rights of GLBT, even when they represent less than 1 or 2% of the public, they're striking a chord with EVERYONE who sees themselves as a victim... and that's the bulk of the party.

Dems are basically afraid and angry.

They are afraid of the Koch Brothers and "the rich" in general.

They are angry with "Corporations" and profits in general.

Dems see themselves as victims and these are the people they blame. It's a road to power because it’s very easy to sell gullible people on the idea that their lot in life is the fault of things beyond their control or that their fate is in the hands of powerful secret forces.

They willingly believe because to do so requires no effort on their part. You are merely relieving them of the burden of their decision making.

Once they believe this, it is a trivial matter to tell them that, in exchange for their support, you will give them that which they do not have, did not earn and for which they cannot pay, for this too requires no effort on their part.

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