OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Peggy

United States

#49026 Oct 13, 2013
Are they going to clean up the mess they are creating and the damage that they create?
Moon

United States

#49027 Oct 13, 2013
It’s good to see that Armed Police are now hanging around those Tea-Bagger Asshats.

For a change.
Vfein

United States

#49028 Oct 13, 2013
Teabagger Party, including it’s cowardly leaders, the Wasilly Hillbilly and Treasonous Teddy, are the lowest of life forms, sucking up valuable oxygen to spew their misguided, hateful and ignorant bile. It is mind-numbingly stunning how stupid these people are.
Paul

United States

#49029 Oct 13, 2013
The actual members of that so-called greatest generation waited decades for the grotesque WWII memorial. This after they had received largesse from grateful citizens in the form of the GI Bill, VA benefits, federally insured home loans, and a middle class lifestyle (since the rest of the world was devastated), and now we get to see the Grifter™ and other paid scumbags trying to make political hay out of a situation caused by their mindless, worthless and witless teabagger pals in Congress.

It’s a good thing my WWII combat veteran dad and uncles aren’t alive to see this nonsense. Shame on these clowns.
Helen

United States

#49030 Oct 13, 2013
The reason the Tea Party is doing all this is they can’t get their way in our American system of public democracy. So they want to shut it down. Or, more accurately, bring it down entirely.

But the major story here that isn’t being told is that the driving force behind all this is religious fundamentalism, which is the single biggest factor behind Tea Party politics.

Media, even progressive media like Mother Jones, Huffington Post, MSNBC, Media Matters and Addicting Info, are reluctant to focus on this because of the media taboo against discussing anything to do with religion.

But until people understand and admit what’s really driving this loony stuff, we won’t be able to effectively counter it.
DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#49031 Oct 13, 2013
Ladies & gentlemen,

The last two - three pages of this forum is what it looks like when we have proven they haven't defeated anyone and we really get under their skin.

Congratulations.

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Cris

United States

#49032 Oct 13, 2013
1. Christopher Columbus is not his real name.
When the famous explorer was born in 1451, his parents named him “Cristoforo Columbo,” not “Christopher Columbus.” The Columbo family were among the middle class in bustling Genoa, Italy. At age 10, Columbus wrote that he went to sea. When he turned 22, he apprenticed with a leading Genoa trading family and sailed to various cities in Europe.
In 1485, Columbus asked Portugal’s King John II about funding his voyage. He thought he’d found a new, overseas trading route to the Orient. The rise of the Ottoman Empire had blocked the old trade routes by land. Portugal had no interest in Columbus’ plan, nor did Genoa, Venice, or England. Columbus then took his proposal to Spain’s Ferdinand and Isabella in 1486. While the royal pair mulled things over, Christopher Columbus’ name changed to Cristobal Colon, which has a more Spanish ring to it.
As Italians became more “American,” so did Columbus’ name.
So why do we observe this holiday every year? And why do we call it “Columbus Day,” and not “Columbo Day?” It all started with our wave of Italian immigrants in the 19th century. New York City’s Italian-Americans first celebrated Columbus Day in 1866. The yearly event spread to other U.S. cities, including San Francisco, CA and Denver, CO. In 1892, Columbus was honored with a statue on New York City’s Columbus Ave., and an exhibition with replicas of his three ships in Chicago, IL.
Colorado was the first state to make Columbus Day an official holiday in 1906, due to the efforts of Angelo Noce. More states followed suit, then the Knights of Columbus pushed for a U.S. holiday, and won it in 1934. As the Italians became more “American,” so did Columbus’ name.
2. Columbus didn’t really discover America.
Most won’t feel surprised to see this myth hit the road. Since Columbus found people were already living here, he clearly hadn’t arrived first. While academics hash out the details, most agree that humans came from Asia to the Americas across the Bering Straits. This land bridge between Russia and Alaska was above water at times during the Ice Age. Evidence also supports that Polynesians may have visited South America between 500 and 700 CE. How else could sweet potatoes from South America turn up thousands of miles away in remote Oceania?
Columbus wasn’t even the first European to set foot on the new world. We’ve all heard about the Viking explorer Leif Erikson founding Greenland in 986 CE. He then discovered Vinland, where the Vikings built a short-lived colony. Now, a newly discovered map shows Portuguese ships visited the new world in 1424. Sorry, Columbus. You didn’t really discover America. Not by a long shot.
Cris

United States

#49033 Oct 13, 2013
3. Columbus didn’t prove the world was round.
Columbus came down in history as a pioneer who stuck to his guns, and proved the world was round, when others thought it was flat. But, this isn’t true. Educated folks in Europe already knew the world was round, and had known that for some time. Pythagoras and Aristotle from Ancient Greece knew the Earth was round. So did known western scientists like Galileo Galilei and Nicolaus Copernicus.
Columbus wasn’t even so great at navigation. His planned voyage kept getting shot down because the royal experts thought his proposed distances to Asia were too short. And they were right. Columbus thought Spain’s Canary Islands were 3,000 from Japan. Oops, the real distance is 12,200 miles. When Central and South America got in Columbus’ way, he staunchly claimed he’d reached “the Indies,” despite the evidence right in front of his eyes. Columbus then oddly decided the earth was shaped like a pear.
Was Columbus our first “fundie?”
History records that Columbus was a very pious man. He believed that God singled him out to explore the new world. When he sailed along the upper East coast of South America, and saw the Orinoco River emptying into the ocean, Columbus thought he’d seen the Garden of Eden. And when facts went against his beliefs, he clung harder to his beliefs. Our hero may not have discovered America, but he may have been our first evangelical Christian.
4. Columbus did bring syphilis home to Europe.
Records show the first outbreak of syphilis in Europe occurred in 1495, when the French army invaded Naples, Italy. The dreaded disease is passed through sexual contact, and results in sores, rashes, stiff joints, and eventually madness and death. Syphilis soon swept through Europe, and many blamed Spanish soldiers for bringing the disease from the new world. Up to five million died in the epidemic, as vividly described by Jared Diamond:
”When syphilis was first definitely recorded in Europe in 1495, its pustules often covered the body from the head to the knees, caused flesh to fall from people’s faces, and led to death within a few months [...] By 1546, the disease had evolved into the disease with the symptoms so well-known to us today.”
If syphilis had already existed in Europe — as some historians claim — this wasn’t your mothers’ syphilis.
Syphilis-Deniers’ Claims Proven False
In recent years, scholars denied that Columbus and others coming back from the new world had brought syphilis home with them. They claimed that history had recorded previous cases of syphilis in Europe and in the Ancient World. They just didn’t call it “syphilis” back then. In 2011, a team from Emory University debunked the syphilis-deniers’ claims, with clear evidence that Columbus’ men did bring this vile disease home with them.
Hopefully, the ghosts of countless Native Americans can take heart from this small dose of poetic justice. How can a short-lived syphilis epidemic make up for having your society destroyed by smallpox, slavery, rape, and other miseries?
Cris

United States

#49034 Oct 13, 2013
5. Columbus didn’t die penniless, or in jail.
Many of us would have loved for Columbus to die poor and in chains, as many claimed really happened. Alas, this is wishful thinking from those of us who appreciate poetic justice. Columbus did run into trouble during his third voyage, when even his fellow Spaniards turned on him for being too greedy, brutal, and evil.

Things took a turn for the worst when King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella banned taking slaves from the new lands. Since Hispaniola and the other islands in the Caribbean had little or no gold, our hero was kind of counting on slaves. After exploring a bit of South America, Columbus returned to Hispaniola and faced a cold welcome. His colony had fallen on hard times, and nobody was happy to see him.

Columbus accused of tyranny and hauled to Spain in chains.
Then Spain sent Francisco de Bobadilla to check on complaints about Columbus’ tyranny, cruelty and poor conduct during his time as governor. And things got worse for Columbus. A lot worse. When de Bobadilla arrived, he found truth in the all of the accusations. He clashed with Columbus, then clapped him in irons and hauled him back to Spain. There, our “hero” talked his royal patrons into setting him free. They even let him keep the wealth he’d “earned.” But Columbus lost all of his power and titles.

Columbus’ final voyage
The explorer made his last trip in 1502, in hope of finding the Straits of Malacca and the Indian Ocean. While scouting Central America, hostile natives, ship worms, and storms attacked his ships. The captain and his crew wound up stranded in St. Anne’s Bay in Jamaica for over a year, because no one wanted to rescue him. Help finally came, and Columbus sailed back to Spain in 1504. He died in 1506 at age 54, after struggling with illness, gout, and other health issues.
Peggy

United States

#49035 Oct 13, 2013
There are some major disputes that he was even Italian. He never wrote in Italian, always Catalan and there is no actual records that shows he was a Columbo, but rather a Colon, from the Barcelona Colons who were a prominent shipping family in the late 15th Century. DNA testing has been going on since 2006. The Colons and Coloms (French) have been most willing to give samples, but the Columbos have been reluctant.
Mooney

United States

#49036 Oct 13, 2013
The Man, The Myth(s), the Legends, all being brought down by the Facts.

Why do we insist on lying to kids? Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Christopher Columbus, Trickle Down Economics, the Bible; when folks are mature enough to grow up and inquire and then discover the Truth, it just ends up with with disillusionment and an unwillingness to trust the liars.
Bud

United States

#49037 Oct 13, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
Ladies & gentlemen,
The last two - three pages of this forum is what it looks like when we have proven they haven't defeated anyone and we really get under their skin.
Congratulations.
That's a big 10-4

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Republiscums Suck

Mcalester, OK

#49038 Oct 13, 2013
Wow! Someone who can cut and paste just as good as ol' Smacking Meat! LMAO!!!

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jonsey

United States

#49039 Oct 13, 2013
Mooney wrote:
The Man, The Myth(s), the Legends, all being brought down by the Facts.
Why do we insist on lying to kids? Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Christopher Columbus, Trickle Down Economics, the Bible; when folks are mature enough to grow up and inquire and then discover the Truth, it just ends up with with disillusionment and an unwillingness to trust the liars.
because we are what we are.
Jessup

United States

#49040 Oct 13, 2013
She's wigging out again

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So What

Mcloud, OK

#49044 Oct 14, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
Yesterday a liberal retard was having an EBT card issue at the grocery store and had the line backed up...
She was all upset because her card would not work. I said to her, let me buy those groceries. She said Oh thank you lord, I appreciate that so much! She really got pissed however when I took the cart full of groceries out to my pickup and loaded them up to take home for myself.
WTF did she think, I would buy them FOR her? Stupid liberal retards.
LOL! Hey Packing a Criminal Record, You don't have to prove your a scumbag by making up stories.

Everyone already knows it.

Just so you know, most White Oklahomans that are on public assistance vote Republican.

I guess that makes them as smart as you. Probably the reason they rely on productive tax paying citizens for their survival.

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Mcloud, OK

#49045 Oct 14, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
CONTINUED: By Thomas Sowell
None of this is rocket science. But unless the Republicans get their side of the story out -- and articulation has never been their strong suit -- the lies will win. More important, the whole country will lose.
LOL! None of this is rocket science, but your still can't figure it out. What does someone's ability to speak clearly have to do with what is going on?

Try not to use such big words, they interfere with YOUR ability to articulate. If you insist on using words that are out of your range of vocabulary, look up their definitions.

It's sad that you weren't able to be a PU Skunk. Your vocabulary would not only be higher, you wouldn't say stupid things like, Indians had no laws.

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Mcloud, OK

#49046 Oct 14, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
Since the poster that enjoys talking to himself tried to cover it up, if you're not watching the live stream, the vets have picked up all the barricades and are now carrying them to the White House. Police are showing up.
No, it won't do any good and Obama will just laugh in their faces like a King and have our vets arrested. But it obvious that our vets don't blame Congress, they blame the man sending the orders down.
Media blew off the trucker thing Friday, but the rest of had patience knowing that today was the big event, not Friday.
Looks like Obama is finally getting the beginning of what he's been wanting all along.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mlr13...
Vets that have no respect for the law, sounds to me like Tea Partiers posing as vets. WAIT! I see Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz, looks like I was right.

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Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#49047 Oct 14, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>Ladies & gentlemen,

The last two - three pages of this forum is what it looks like when we have proven they haven't defeated anyone and we really get under their skin.

Congratulations.

You are absolutely correct and I especially get a laugh out of that half-breed want to be indian negro "So What" continuously begging me to respond, ROFLMAO, The bitch will be begging until dooms day, its only the fifth or sixth time in a week, lol, but... who's counting, lol, well...
except the attention seeking whore, "So What", but... beg on bitch and thanks for the laughs.

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Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#49048 Oct 14, 2013
Why does Obama promote class warfare?

Why does Obama promote racial hate?

Why does Obama divide instead of unite people?

The community disorganizer has made it a career.

Republican Controlled House is the only one doing their job, in DC...
Senate rejected 11 compromises, Obama won't give the citizen the same break he gave Big Business.
I thought Progressive Democrats hated Big Business but... turns out to be a lie.

3 days and Government bug splats on debt windshield...
Will the Chinese hit the wiper?
ROFLMAO

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