OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44678 Jul 11, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>You haven't answered the Question of the Day yet.


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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44679 Jul 11, 2013
So What wrote:
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How easy or hard it is to enter the U.S. legally depends totally on your nationality. Some nationalities (including most Europeans) can enter without a visa. Citizens from many other countries must apply for a visa, and if they can meet the requirements, they may come. Some nationalities are known for the large numbers of people who violate their visa and stay illegally. These are usually people from poor countries, people who want to work in the U.S. and earn money to send to their families back home. It is not that they cannot afford a passport and a visa so much as it is that they cannot meet the visa requirements for owning a home, or business or having a large sum of money in the bank...to show they will return home when they are supposed to. Most people that enter the U.S. illegally do so because they cannot qualify for a visa and they want the opportunity to make money. Most are very poor and have very little education. I know lots of middle income and wealthy Mexicans who do have visas and visit the U.S. legally. They own nice homes and businesses and are well-educated...they qualify for a visa. I also know people who are poor and have gone to the U.S. for a year or two to get money for their families. Mexico, India, the Philippines, Central American countries are all know for violating American visas so it is especially hard for their citizens to qualify for a visa. That is not to say that other nationalities do not violate their visas...there are many Irish, Japanese, Canadians, and others who come to the U.S. on a legal visa or under the visa waiver program and just do not leave. About 1/2 of the illegal immigrants in the U.S. are from Mexico, that leaves 6 million more from other countries. Yes YOU can actually enter the U.S. without even applying for a visa, but a poor Mexican citizen cannot do that and cannot meet the requirements to get a visa. even unskilled labor pays far more in the US. than in Mexico and they desperately want to work in the U.S. to help their families. The rate of entry of illegal immigrants from Mexico into the U.S. fell last year and the rate of illegal Mexicans voluntarily returning home increased. the economy is Mexico continues to improve and unemployment is down....although prices keep going up. there are even illegal Americans living in Mexico...often to be with a husband who got deported. they are sometimes too lazy, or too ignorant to know they need a residence visa and just show up and stay. Many actually cannot meet the financial requirement to get a residence visa. I know people who have lived there for years without the proper visa. Mexico also has a problem with illegal immigrants from central America. compared to Guatemala and the other Central American countries, Mexico is far better off...so attracts illegal immigrants. However central American immigrants DO cross the border into the U.S. illegally. The estimated numbers are hard to identify because they will claim to be Mexican so they will not be deported back to their country of origin
If you leave the U.S. and you never had or do not have a passport or visa you will play H3LL getting back in! This was put in place after 9/11.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44680 Jul 11, 2013
While I was reading the comments from those in the UK that are in favor of the Socialized Healthcare, I found this post an interesting comment posted by someone from there.

Eli Persky:
This is the standard Socialist rubbish. Stop living under the illusion that there is an infinite pool of resources that we can throw at whatever we want, that's what got us in the mess we are in at the moment.

You put the word "savings" in quotation marks although that is exactly what it is. I don't know if you noticed but we are in a recession, sacrifices have to be made, so stop whining and stick it out through the tough bits.

I am really sick of hearing you naive Socialists and your deluded sense of self-entitlement; that you have some sort of divine right to special treatment by the government by merely existing.

They give you your welfare checks that you abuse heinously,so be grateful. The writer of this article is the sort of idiot who would protest any sort of government spending cut because it inconveniences his own life, with a total disregard for national economic growth and the long term benefits to the country as a whole.

He doesn't care if his children and their children get stuck with a continued economic recession as long as he gets some more free healthcare. Don't get suckered in by the naive, delusions of the Left, think of your futures.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44681 Jul 11, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
How easy or hard it is to enter the U.S. legally depends totally on your nationality. Some nationalities (including most Europeans) can enter without a visa. Citizens from many other countries must apply for a visa, and if they can meet the requirements, they may come. Some nationalities are known for the large numbers of people who violate their visa and stay illegally. These are usually people from poor countries, people who want to work in the U.S. and earn money to send to their families back home. It is not that they cannot afford a passport and a visa so much as it is that they cannot meet the visa requirements for owning a home, or business or having a large sum of money in the bank...to show they will return home when they are supposed to. Most people that enter the U.S. illegally do so because they cannot qualify for a visa and they want the opportunity to make money. Most are very poor and have very little education. I know lots of middle income and wealthy Mexicans who do have visas and visit the U.S. legally. They own nice homes and businesses and are well-educated...they qualify for a visa. I also know people who are poor and have gone to the U.S. for a year or two to get money for their families. Mexico, India, the Philippines, Central American countries are all know for violating American visas so it is especially hard for their citizens to qualify for a visa. That is not to say that other nationalities do not violate their visas...there are many Irish, Japanese, Canadians, and others who come to the U.S. on a legal visa or under the visa waiver program and just do not leave. About 1/2 of the illegal immigrants in the U.S. are from Mexico, that leaves 6 million more from other countries. Yes YOU can actually enter the U.S. without even applying for a visa, but a poor Mexican citizen cannot do that and cannot meet the requirements to get a visa. even unskilled labor pays far more in the US. than in Mexico and they desperately want to work in the U.S. to help their families. The rate of entry of illegal immigrants from Mexico into the U.S. fell last year and the rate of illegal Mexicans voluntarily returning home increased. the economy is Mexico continues to improve and unemployment is down....although prices keep going up. there are even illegal Americans living in Mexico...often to be with a husband who got deported. they are sometimes too lazy, or too ignorant to know they need a residence visa and just show up and stay. Many actually cannot meet the financial requirement to get a residence visa. I know people who have lived there for years without the proper visa. Mexico also has a problem with illegal immigrants from central America. compared to Guatemala and the other Central American countries, Mexico is far better off...so attracts illegal immigrants. However central American immigrants DO cross the border into the U.S. illegally. The estimated numbers are hard to identify because they will claim to be Mexican so they will not be deported back to their country of origin
What website did you get this info from? I saw the Mexican President being interviewed on one of our national news stations. The person interviewing the MEX. PRES. asked him what they did when the Mexican gov. found illegals in their country. The Mex. Pres. said loud and clear and did not stutter "We send them back. We do not mess with them."
So What

Newalla, OK

#44682 Jul 11, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>What website did you get this info from? I saw the Mexican President being interviewed on one of our national news stations. The person interviewing the MEX. PRES. asked him what they did when the Mexican gov. found illegals in their country. The Mex. Pres. said loud and clear and did not stutter "We send them back. We do not mess with them."
Did he also say that Mexico doesn't have an organized crime issue, or a drug trafficking problem too? In case you haven't heard most of the Mexican Government is corrupt, and for a few pesos they have no problems with turning their backs. Mexico is a third world nation with far fewer resources than we have. That is why they encourage illegal immigration and drug trafficking into the U.S..
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44683 Jul 11, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
How easy or hard it is to enter the U.S. legally depends totally on your nationality. Some nationalities (including most Europeans) can enter without a visa. Citizens from many other countries must apply for a visa, and if they can meet the requirements, they may come. Some nationalities are known for the large numbers of people who violate their visa and stay illegally. These are usually people from poor countries, people who want to work in the U.S. and earn money to send to their families back home. It is not that they cannot afford a passport and a visa so much as it is that they cannot meet the visa requirements for owning a home, or business or having a large sum of money in the bank...to show they will return home when they are supposed to. Most people that enter the U.S. illegally do so because they cannot qualify for a visa and they want the opportunity to make money. Most are very poor and have very little education. I know lots of middle income and wealthy Mexicans who do have visas and visit the U.S. legally. They own nice homes and businesses and are well-educated...they qualify for a visa. I also know people who are poor and have gone to the U.S. for a year or two to get money for their families. Mexico, India, the Philippines, Central American countries are all know for violating American visas so it is especially hard for their citizens to qualify for a visa. That is not to say that other nationalities do not violate their visas...there are many Irish, Japanese, Canadians, and others who come to the U.S. on a legal visa or under the visa waiver program and just do not leave. About 1/2 of the illegal immigrants in the U.S. are from Mexico, that leaves 6 million more from other countries. Yes YOU can actually enter the U.S. without even applying for a visa, but a poor Mexican citizen cannot do that and cannot meet the requirements to get a visa. even unskilled labor pays far more in the US. than in Mexico and they desperately want to work in the U.S. to help their families. The rate of entry of illegal immigrants from Mexico into the U.S. fell last year and the rate of illegal Mexicans voluntarily returning home increased. the economy is Mexico continues to improve and unemployment is down....although prices keep going up. there are even illegal Americans living in Mexico...often to be with a husband who got deported. they are sometimes too lazy, or too ignorant to know they need a residence visa and just show up and stay. Many actually cannot meet the financial requirement to get a residence visa. I know people who have lived there for years without the proper visa. Mexico also has a problem with illegal immigrants from central America. compared to Guatemala and the other Central American countries, Mexico is far better off...so attracts illegal immigrants. However central American immigrants DO cross the border into the U.S. illegally. The estimated numbers are hard to identify because they will claim to be Mexican so they will not be deported back to their country of origin
Name what nationalities can enter the U.S. without a Visa of any kind or Passport now days.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44685 Jul 11, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>
How easy or hard it is to enter the U.S. legally depends totally on your nationality. Some nationalities (including most Europeans) can enter without a visa. Citizens from many other countries must apply for a visa, and if they can meet the requirements, they may come. Some nationalities are known for the large numbers of people who violate their visa and stay illegally. These are usually people from poor countries, people who want to work in the U.S. and earn money to send to their families back home. It is not that they cannot afford a passport and a visa so much as it is that they cannot meet the visa requirements for owning a home, or business or having a large sum of money in the bank...to show they will return home when they are supposed to. Most people that enter the U.S. illegally do so because they cannot qualify for a visa and they want the opportunity to make money. Most are very poor and have very little education. I know lots of middle income and wealthy Mexicans who do have visas and visit the U.S. legally. They own nice homes and businesses and are well-educated...they qualify for a visa. I also know people who are poor and have gone to the U.S. for a year or two to get money for their families. Mexico, India, the Philippines, Central American countries are all know for violating American visas so it is especially hard for their citizens to qualify for a visa. That is not to say that other nationalities do not violate their visas...there are many Irish, Japanese, Canadians, and others who come to the U.S. on a legal visa or under the visa waiver program and just do not leave. About 1/2 of the illegal immigrants in the U.S. are from Mexico, that leaves 6 million more from other countries. Yes YOU can actually enter the U.S. without even applying for a visa, but a poor Mexican citizen cannot do that and cannot meet the requirements to get a visa. even unskilled labor pays far more in the US. than in Mexico and they desperately want to work in the U.S. to help their families. The rate of entry of illegal immigrants from Mexico into the U.S. fell last year and the rate of illegal Mexicans voluntarily returning home increased. the economy is Mexico continues to improve and unemployment is down....although prices keep going up. there are even illegal Americans living in Mexico...often to be with a husband who got deported. they are sometimes too lazy, or too ignorant to know they need a residence visa and just show up and stay. Many actually cannot meet the financial requirement to get a residence visa. I know people who have lived there for years without the proper visa. Mexico also has a problem with illegal immigrants from central America. compared to Guatemala and the other Central American countries, Mexico is far better off...so attracts illegal immigrants. However central American immigrants DO cross the border into the U.S. illegally. The estimated numbers are hard to identify because they will claim to be Mexican so they will not be deported back to their country of origin
International travel has always required a passport to enter international countries and in return a passport was needed to enter the U.S. After 9/11/2001 the U.S. started working to change the requirements of passports. So January 2007 the U.S. made it law the you need a passport or a passport card to travel to and from Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean. So I am unsure who would be exempt from these rules of having to have a passport, passport card or visa to enter the U.S.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#44686 Jul 11, 2013
Microsoft has worked closely with U.S. intelligence agencies to allow users' private communications to be "intercepted," according to "top-secret" documents obtained by the Guardian. This reportedly includes assisting the National Security Agency in getting around Microsoft's own encryption.

The 'Microsoft' logo is seen on a tablet screen on December 4, 2012 in Paris. Credit: AFP/Getty Images

The documents were provided to the Guardian by NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

The latest information is being presented as evidence showing the cooperation between Silicon Valley and U.S. intelligence over the last three years. Microsoft's apparent partnership with the NSA and other intelligence agencies also relates back to the NSA's secret "Prism" program.

According to the Guardian, the documents show that:

o Microsoft helped the NSA to circumvent its encryption to address concerns that the agency would be unable to intercept web chats on the new Outlook.com portal;

o The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on Outlook.com , including Hotmail;

o The company worked with the FBI this year to allow the NSA easier access via Prism to its cloud storage service SkyDrive, which now has more than 250 million users worldwide;

o Microsoft also worked with the FBI's Data Intercept Unit to "understand" potential issues with a feature in Outlook.com that allows users to create email aliases;

o Skype, which was bought by Microsoft in October 2011, worked with intelligence agencies last year to allow Prism to collect video of conversations as well as audio;

o Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport"

"When we upgrade or update products we aren't absolved from the need to comply with existing or future lawful demands," Microsoft said in a statement.

"The company reiterated its argument that it provides customer data 'only in response to government demands and we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers'," the Guardian reports.

Responding to the public outrage over the extensive spying efforts by the federal government, many of the major tech companies want to disclose the full extent of their partnership with the NSA to quell customer concerns. Unless the government rules otherwise, the companies are not allowed to disclose any information about the secret programs.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44687 Jul 11, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
Microsoft has worked closely with U.S. intelligence agencies to allow users' private communications to be "intercepted," according to "top-secret" documents obtained by the Guardian. This reportedly includes assisting the National Security Agency in getting around Microsoft's own encryption.
The 'Microsoft' logo is seen on a tablet screen on December 4, 2012 in Paris. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
The documents were provided to the Guardian by NSA leaker Edward Snowden.
The latest information is being presented as evidence showing the cooperation between Silicon Valley and U.S. intelligence over the last three years. Microsoft's apparent partnership with the NSA and other intelligence agencies also relates back to the NSA's secret "Prism" program.
According to the Guardian, the documents show that:
o Microsoft helped the NSA to circumvent its encryption to address concerns that the agency would be unable to intercept web chats on the new Outlook.com portal;
o The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on Outlook.com , including Hotmail;
o The company worked with the FBI this year to allow the NSA easier access via Prism to its cloud storage service SkyDrive, which now has more than 250 million users worldwide;
o Microsoft also worked with the FBI's Data Intercept Unit to "understand" potential issues with a feature in Outlook.com that allows users to create email aliases;
o Skype, which was bought by Microsoft in October 2011, worked with intelligence agencies last year to allow Prism to collect video of conversations as well as audio;
o Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport"
"When we upgrade or update products we aren't absolved from the need to comply with existing or future lawful demands," Microsoft said in a statement.
"The company reiterated its argument that it provides customer data 'only in response to government demands and we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers'," the Guardian reports.
Responding to the public outrage over the extensive spying efforts by the federal government, many of the major tech companies want to disclose the full extent of their partnership with the NSA to quell customer concerns. Unless the government rules otherwise, the companies are not allowed to disclose any information about the secret programs.
What do you get when you click on the outlook.com 's in your post? I was surprised what came when I click on those websites in your post.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44688 Jul 11, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
Microsoft has worked closely with U.S. intelligence agencies to allow users' private communications to be "intercepted," according to "top-secret" documents obtained by the Guardian. This reportedly includes assisting the National Security Agency in getting around Microsoft's own encryption.
The 'Microsoft' logo is seen on a tablet screen on December 4, 2012 in Paris. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
The documents were provided to the Guardian by NSA leaker Edward Snowden.
The latest information is being presented as evidence showing the cooperation between Silicon Valley and U.S. intelligence over the last three years. Microsoft's apparent partnership with the NSA and other intelligence agencies also relates back to the NSA's secret "Prism" program.
According to the Guardian, the documents show that:
o Microsoft helped the NSA to circumvent its encryption to address concerns that the agency would be unable to intercept web chats on the new Outlook.com portal;
o The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on Outlook.com , including Hotmail;
o The company worked with the FBI this year to allow the NSA easier access via Prism to its cloud storage service SkyDrive, which now has more than 250 million users worldwide;
o Microsoft also worked with the FBI's Data Intercept Unit to "understand" potential issues with a feature in Outlook.com that allows users to create email aliases;
o Skype, which was bought by Microsoft in October 2011, worked with intelligence agencies last year to allow Prism to collect video of conversations as well as audio;
o Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport"
"When we upgrade or update products we aren't absolved from the need to comply with existing or future lawful demands," Microsoft said in a statement.
"The company reiterated its argument that it provides customer data 'only in response to government demands and we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers'," the Guardian reports.
Responding to the public outrage over the extensive spying efforts by the federal government, many of the major tech companies want to disclose the full extent of their partnership with the NSA to quell customer concerns. Unless the government rules otherwise, the companies are not allowed to disclose any information about the secret programs.


Surprise Surprise! NOT... Thanks for this post, it confirms what I have thought all along.
Dempsey

Tyler, TX

#44689 Jul 11, 2013
Yet, all you dumbazz repugs think wuby was a saint for what he started.
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#44690 Jul 11, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>What do you get when you click on the outlook.com 's in your post? I was surprised what came when I click on those websites in your post.
I got the outlook log in screen
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44691 Jul 11, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
I got the outlook log in screen
Well this news make me feel better and not so panic about what you posted.
Thank for answering my question.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44692 Jul 11, 2013
Legislation has been proposed that could create an environment that would unduly restrict access to personalized (also known as compounded) medications, even when they provide the best treatment options for patients, as determined by their physicians. You can make a difference if you act right now and oppose Senate bill S.959. Legislators need to hear from those who would be affected by any policy or law that doesn’t reflect the importance of personalized medicine.

This type of medication is for patients that normally prescribed does not work for. I thought this very interesting. I have 2 friends that need this type of medication. One has Lupus and the other has a rare blood problem. Once they were put on this type of medicine they got more benefits in helping them with their health problems.
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#44694 Jul 12, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
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Surprise Surprise! NOT... Thanks for this post, it confirms what I have thought all along.
Yes, conspiracy nuts have always thought that
they're the victims of government spying.
And you clearly are a believer.

The government started with your sonogram.

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Vinita, OK

#44695 Jul 12, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>Medicare has only an
8% overhead cost. The AHCA will be an improvement.

BUT... only in your dreams with an $83 Trillion Dollar Unfunded Entitlement Liability, even before Obamacare you ingnorant Dolt! It is absolutely a damn train wreck that's going to happen and I don't give a damn what you say or think you idiot!
Hell, you ain;t no damn money manager worthy enough to manage a small change pocket book. You're nothing more than a parasite living off the taxpayers dime but... keep telling your lies, someone might believe it, NOT!

What would your plan be to pay that debt back and with what, pick it off a tree or... are your another Paul Krugman, "deficts don't matter" idiots?

Don't answer that one, you're too damn stupid. I didn't aquire what I have today listening to assclowns like you. It won't ever be paid back.
I know you heard how great the government run healthcare is working in the U,K, but... I just hope everyone else does too, in order to outrage the majority of this nation while you liberal retards pretend to be thrilled, have at it and I'm certain you can't even manage a one clown circus assclown so at least you understand my stance with people like you too.
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United States

#44700 Jul 12, 2013
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?

"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44701 Jul 12, 2013
The Fake Donnie wrote:
Are all these stupid, ill-mannered, republicans and wantabee repigs in the 1% of the ultra rich or are they just surrogates for the 1%?
"""A mouthpiece for the rich and usually talking out their azz because their mouth knows better."""


Nope, that was them damn progressive liberal retards. You must not have noticed the brown stain dripping out both sides of their mouth just like yours.
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#44702 Jul 12, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
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Hell, you ain;t no damn money manager worthy enough to manage a small change pocket book.

I know you heard how great the government run healthcare is working in the U,K,
Bought a lot of Boeing today. Love it when planes fall
from the sky or catch fire. Panic selling is profits.

The NHS in the United Kingdom celebrates 68 years of service
this year. And no country that has ever implemented a
national health care system has ever rescinded it.
That says more than your hopes the AHCA will fail.

You'll just look more stupid in the future when it
succeeds. Can't imagine how that can be though.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44703 Jul 12, 2013
It's pretty easy to see why the British Healthcare System is headed toward bankruptcy.

Read the statistics of the British health care system with their all-unionized work force from its implementation in 1948.

When their Labor government nationalized the British system in 1948, the system had 480,000 hospital beds, services by 350,000 staff.
In 2002 their system only had 186,000 hospital beds serviced now by 882,000 staff.

More recently, in 2008, their system had only 160,000 beds, serviced now by 1,368,000 staff.
It is easy to predict the near future of that British system, say in the year 2020: the British National Health Service... will have ZERO hospital beds serviced by 2,000,000 staff, representing about 6 million votes for their Labor Party,
including adult members of those union households.

Recently, the UK government was trying to lay off several hundred thousand of those health care system bureaucrats. The downward trajectory is obvious, more money for less services. Great Britain already imports doctors who are the worst in their medical field because they are cheap.

Under Obamacare, the Interdependent Payment Advisory Boards will decide which patients receive care and which ones are left to die.

In Great Britain, this is decided by the quality of life the patient has remaining. Healthcare will be heavily rationed and some people will live and"some people will die".

If you want to improve healthcare, access, and cost it is very simple. You let the private market handle it and you get government out of the way, create a competitive environment for the consumer and let them buy any type of policy they see fit, then cost would be driven down and efficiencies would go up and the taxpayers are not on the hook.

That is why it called the free market and it works!

Obama-Care has started it's engine but... it's hopelessly in idle mode on the edge of the cliff. And to think, Sarah Palin was laughed at 5 years ago for warning us of the Obama death panels. Can't wait till all those waivers expire! Oh wait I forgot, 5 months before they take noticeable effect, they are now giving waivers again to the business owners for another year so now, the only ones responsible to pay for it is the private sector, working employees, that already can barely pay their monthly bills but...they'll have unaffordable healthcare coverage.

Barack Hussein Obama, who got elected on the idea of punishing the business owners, while giving the poor a better life, is now giving businesses another year long break. Oh, that's right, mid-term elections coming up, never mind I know why, lol. And now Politicians are exempt from Obamacare and you have to pay the full cost out of your pocket or pay him a penelty. And in one year or less, many peoples work hours will get cut to 29 hours a week to make business owners exempt too! Trust me businesses won't wait until 1/1/2015 to prepare for the new cost.
ROFLMAO... to think some believe Obama wants to help the poor except he is trying to create more poor.

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