OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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So What

Newalla, OK

#44589 Jul 9, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Back in the time of history you are going back to did our government have laws in place at that time in regards to the entering the boards of the US? I am pretty sure the answer is NO. Now there are laws to people entering and leaving the boards of the US. I can not change what happened in history to what our country is today. There are laws to people crossing the US boards and these laws need to be followed. Even now there are laws for the US citizen leaving and return to the US. So if a US citizens needs to show legal IDs to leave and return then I would it is not asking that anyone crossing our board to come here do the same.
Allow me to show you what stupid looks like. You used the word board instead of border. Once is a mistake, but three times now that's stupid!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44590 Jul 9, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>There is no deductible for Medicare if it is secondary, that I know of. Medicare becomes secondary anytime you have other health insurances. My parents had enough insurance that they made money when they got sick, so don't hold me to that.
The reason I didn't answer before was because I had to go. I have an 11 and 14 year old so things can get crazy in a moments notice. Sorry.
So What remember posting this about your parent had enough insurance that they 'made' money when they got sick, so don't hold me to that.
You stated that and I hold you to your post!

Also Friday June 21 Page 2152 you posted "I have those worries now, and I have enough insurance to cover bills except yearly deductibles"

Remember posting that?
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44591 Jul 9, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Allow me to show you what stupid looks like. You used the word board instead of border. Once is a mistake, but three times now that's stupid!
Read my next post and see what stupid looks like when they can not remember what they had post!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44592 Jul 9, 2013
Sorry So What that should have said read my last post instead of next!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44594 Jul 9, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Allow me to show you what stupid looks like. You used the word board instead of border. Once is a mistake, but three times now that's stupid!
Yep you got me! That's what I get for posting late at nite waiting for a pill the Doc gave me to take to settle my lower back down so I could get some rest. Try not to take anything but what I did that day set it into spasms. Oh well I know I am not perfect like you seem to think you are. You just can't remember at your younger than me age what you post.
Zane

United States

#44595 Jul 9, 2013
Pill popping TRAMARA----Takes you far, far, away.
Zane

United States

#44596 Jul 9, 2013
Packing Heat has been far, far, far, away for a long, long, long time.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44597 Jul 9, 2013
Zane wrote:
Pill popping TRAMARA----Takes you far, far, away.
1 pill and had not had one in 2 weeks. So Stuff it Kane! Like to see you handle a lumbar back problem!
DoesntMatter

Cushing, OK

#44598 Jul 9, 2013
Glad to see some finally showing their true colors
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44599 Jul 9, 2013
How Medicare works with other insurance. If you have Medicare and other health insurance or coverage, each type of coverage is called a "payer." When there's more than one payer, "coordination of benefits" rules decide which one pays first. The "primary payer" pays what it owes on your bills first, and then sends the rest to the "secondary payer" to pay. In some cases, there may also be a third payer.

What it means to pay primary/secondary
The insurance that pays first (primary payer) pays up to the limits of its coverage.
The one that pays second (secondary payer) only pays if there are costs the primary insurer didn't cover.
The secondary payer (which may be Medicare) may not pay all the uncovered costs.
If your employer insurance is the secondary payer, you may need to enroll in Medicare Part B before your insurance will pay.
Paying "first" means paying the whole bill up to the limits of the coverage. It doesn't always mean the primary payer pays first in time. If the insurance company doesn't pay the claim promptly (usually within 120 days), your doctor or other provider may bill Medicare. Medicare may make a conditional payment to pay the bill, and then later recover any payments the primary payer should've made.

If you have questions about who pays first, or if your insurance changes, call the Medicare Coordination of Benefits Contractor.
What's a conditional payment?
A conditional payment is a payment Medicare makes for services another payer may be responsible for. Medicare makes this conditional payment so you won't have to use your own money to pay the bill. The payment is "conditional" because it must be repaid to Medicare when a settlement, judgment, award, or other payment is made.
If Medicare makes a conditional payment for an item or service, and you get a settlement, judgment, award, or other payment for that item or service from an insurance company later, the conditional payment must be repaid to Medicare. You’re responsible for making sure Medicare gets repaid for the conditional payment.
How Medicare recovers conditional payments
If Medicare makes a conditional payment, you or your representative should call the Medicare Coordination of Benefits Contractor (COBC).
The COBC will notify the recovery contractor to work on your case. The recovery contractor is a separate contractor who uses the information you or your representative gives to the COBC to see Medicare gets repaid for the conditional payments.
The recovery contractor will gather information about any conditional payments Medicare made related to your pending settlement, judgment, or award. Once a settlement, judgment, or award is final, you or your representative should call the recovery contractor. The recovery contractor will get the final repayment amount (if any) on your case and issue a letter requesting repayment.

Search Medicare.gov for covered items type your Medicare.gov A federal government website managed by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
7500 Security Boulevard, Baltimore, MD 21244

Here is a little info about Medicare working with other health insurance coverage.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44600 Jul 9, 2013
What I have read about having medicare and other health insurance coverage each policy is referred to as payers. Many thing determine when Medicare pays first or if on a group plan and it pay first then medicare. If there is another health policy there is always a first payer, second payer and a third payer. You are to give infor to your health care providers which is the primary payer and how many payers will be involved so the providers will be able to file the insurance properly. Primary will figure their pay out and then send the paper work the next payer and if there is a third payer the second payer will send them the paperwork to get the claims paid. Medicare can be first payer or second payer or third payer depending on the situation of the person health insurance set up. All money goes for paying the medical bills.

You can go to www.medicare.gov for more info
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44601 Jul 9, 2013
Look it up clueless! Don't take my word for the info.
I am pretty sure I know who clueless is.

So no matter how many health insurance policies your parents want to buy it comes down to First payer is primary and all after that will pay their present of the medical bill but they do not pay to the patient.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44602 Jul 9, 2013
Present should be percent.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44603 Jul 9, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>So are you saying now that I am on Medicare that I am below you, Kiddo? So what kind of health coverage do you have Babe? Guess what Babe Since Oct 4th 2012 I have had 2 major surgeries and all medical bills are paid for! Own my home that was built in 2003, all autos paid for, all bills paid for. Back when we had 3 kids at home we did the same plus sent all three to college without student loans.
I never said you were lying or your parents were breaking the law I said I don't think you knew what the H3LL you are talking about!
Sounds like you and your husband have some major health problems, and your in your 70's. Did it ever cross your mind that going out and drinking makes you a public health hazard. If your kids loved you, they would take your keys away, before you kill someone.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44604 Jul 9, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like you and your husband have some major health problems, and your in your 70's. Did it ever cross your mind that going out and drinking makes you a public health hazard. If your kids loved you, they would take your keys away, before you kill someone.
A couple of beers ever once in a while. At this time we have no major health problems. we had really good Doctors taking care of us. My husband has been cancer free for some time now. Beer had nothing to do with his cancer. The problem I had had nothing to do with having a beer ever once in awhile. My health is doing great now! Don't worry about are health! As far as a public health hazard would we have to be contagious. We aren't! We drive fine. You are screwed up big time. What is your problem with people "70"? Hate to tell you I have 2 Aunts that are 88 and still driving and sharp mind wise.
What is your problem? I do not give a hoot if you agree with me or not. You have that right. But I don't have to agree with your opinion either!
So What

Newalla, OK

#44605 Jul 9, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Look it up clueless! Don't take my word for the info.
I am pretty sure I know who clueless is.
So no matter how many health insurance policies your parents want to buy it comes down to First payer is primary and all after that will pay their present of the medical bill but they do not pay to the patient.
Did it ever occur to you that they purchased their insurance policies before the insurance industry changed the rules? No. That's because your narrow minded. That's why your a racist and don't even know it.

So throw some more profanity my way and prove my point by seeing just how much lower you can take yourself, but don't try to hard because six feet is the limit, and your already over half way there.
So What

Newalla, OK

#44606 Jul 9, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>A couple of beers ever once in a while. At this time we have no major health problems. we had really good Doctors taking care of us. My husband has been cancer free for some time now. Beer had nothing to do with his cancer. The problem I had had nothing to do with having a beer ever once in awhile. My health is doing great now! Don't worry about are health! As far as a public health hazard would we have to be contagious. We aren't! We drive fine. You are screwed up big time. What is your problem with people "70"? Hate to tell you I have 2 Aunts that are 88 and still driving and sharp mind wise.
What is your problem? I do not give a hoot if you agree with me or not. You have that right. But I don't have to agree with your opinion either!
When you hit someone while intoxicated tell this story to the judge, and he will take your keys from you.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44607 Jul 9, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Did it ever occur to you that they purchased their insurance policies before the insurance industry changed the rules? No. That's because your narrow minded. That's why your a racist and don't even know it.
So throw some more profanity my way and prove my point by seeing just how much lower you can take yourself, but don't try to hard because six feet is the limit, and your already over half way there.
First of all tell me what profanity?
Second the multiple health insurance policies have always did the primary pay and the secondary and then if someone has a third policy it would pick up what is left of the medical bill. Obama did not change that.
Racist--you are reaching now. But if anyone could be called racist when they have a chip on their shoulder towards Older people that would be you.

NOW I AM DONE POSTING TO YOU. When you have to reach as far as you do to insult me you are not worth my time. It will be fun to see how far you will reach to act me. Have fun! KIDDO!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44608 Jul 9, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>When you hit someone while intoxicated tell this story to the judge, and he will take your keys from you.
2 beers? Man Kiddo you do have a problem!
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44609 Jul 9, 2013
act should be attack!

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