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Cheney on the Loose

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Cheney says NSA monitoring could have prevented 9/11
By Michael O'Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News


The United States might have been able to prevent the deadly Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington had controversial National Security Agency surveillance practices been in place at the time, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday.
The former No. 2 in the Bush administration defended the NSA's ability to monitor phone and email data, and labeled as a "traitor" the analyst who has admitted to having leaked details about the classified program.

Harry Hamburg / AP file photo
Former Vice President Dick Cheney speaks at the Center For Security Policy dinner at Union Station in Washington, Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009.

"As everybody who's been associated with the program's said, if we had had this before 9/11, when there were two terrorists in San Diego two hijackers had been able to use that program, that capability, against that target, we might well have been able to prevent 9/11," Cheney said on "Fox News Sunday."
And Sen. Lindsey Graham, S.C., a hawkish Republican who's vocally defended the NSA practices, suggested another attack is even made more likely if the monitoring is curtailed.
"I believe we should be listening to terrorists, known terrorist emails, following their emails and following their phone calls. And if they're emailing somebody and the United States or calling a number in the United States, I would like to get a judge's position to monitor that phone call," Graham said on "Meet the Press" on NBC. "If we don't do that, another attack on our homeland is very likely."
Many of the broad surveillance practices referenced by Cheney were initiated following the 9/11 attacks, prompted by President George W. Bush, who argued for broader government powers to prevent future attacks. But revelations that the government was routinely collecting so-called "meta-data" from phone providers like Verizon and other communications companies has prompted a new debate over what limits should be put on domestic government surveillance.
Packing Heat

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CulPepper wrote:
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I think that the calm black man will think and get intelligence council before he "Lets Allah settle it."
Too many people let a loudmouth "quitter ho" do their thinking.


Hey idiot, nothing you posted makes any type of contribution in ANY meaningful way. Take your revolver, put it to your temple and pull the trigger. Since there's not much between your ears, don't forget to put a bullet in the chamber. Thank you and enjoy the after-life because you sure as hell don't have one here. Now really, zip it up Chester, your Bozone is really showing!

Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops intelligent thinking or bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately for you, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.
Cheney on the Loose

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Packing Heat wrote:
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Your brain is so small, if it was stuffed up an ants ass, it would still rattle like a BB in a tin can!
Did your kids give you a noose for Father's Day?
Zane

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Wonder if Karen had a moment of silence for her murdered child this year?
Seriouslady

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Packing Heat wrote:
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No thanks, I'm not interested in what you call better bars like this hang out of yours! You idiots are sick perverts! I know you're a regular at The Grapevine and your friend, Daniel speaks highly of the place, I just can't stand being around you misfits, doing your circle-jerks and such, lol.
I thought your interview was so you, lol. Lets see if others can pick you out of the crowd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Egggh. I get this yucky, disgusting picture that you may be pleasuring yourself while you make these posts.
Seriouslady

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Zane wrote:
Wonder if Karen had a moment of silence for her murdered child this year?
What makes you say that?
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Cheney on the Loose wrote:
Cheney says NSA monitoring could have prevented 9/11
By Michael O'Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News
The United States might have been able to prevent the deadly Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington had controversial National Security Agency surveillance practices been in place at the time, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday.
The former No. 2 in the Bush administration defended the NSA's ability to monitor phone and email data, and labeled as a "traitor" the analyst who has admitted to having leaked details about the classified program.
Harry Hamburg / AP file photo
Former Vice President Dick Cheney speaks at the Center For Security Policy dinner at Union Station in Washington, Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009.
"As everybody who's been associated with the program's said, if we had had this before 9/11, when there were two terrorists in San Diego two hijackers had been able to use that program, that capability, against that target, we might well have been able to prevent 9/11," Cheney said on "Fox News Sunday."
And Sen. Lindsey Graham, S.C., a hawkish Republican who's vocally defended the NSA practices, suggested another attack is even made more likely if the monitoring is curtailed.
"I believe we should be listening to terrorists, known terrorist emails, following their emails and following their phone calls. And if they're emailing somebody and the United States or calling a number in the United States, I would like to get a judge's position to monitor that phone call," Graham said on "Meet the Press" on NBC. "If we don't do that, another attack on our homeland is very likely."
Many of the broad surveillance practices referenced by Cheney were initiated following the 9/11 attacks, prompted by President George W. Bush, who argued for broader government powers to prevent future attacks. But revelations that the government was routinely collecting so-called "meta-data" from phone providers like Verizon and other communications companies has prompted a new debate over what limits should be put on domestic government surveillance.
Targeting phone calls and emails of people from terrorists countries to the terrorist countries makes perfect sense. I wish they had bothered to do that for the Boston Bombers who were sloppy and made no effort to conceal who they were and what were their true motives and intent.

The NSA now with it's enhanced scope as well as the IRS and it's enhance scope as a 'tool' of the liberals to target any conservative organizations to silence the vote of dissent, would make anyone stop and wonder for a while. The NSA is currently targeting millions of innocent Americans. Very different program from the original program. The hearings made one thing clear. The Obama Administration will lie to cover their illegal activities, who knew a traitor and a low level traitor would shed light on what this government considers acceptable behavior....
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Seriouslady wrote:
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What makes you say that?
You don't want to answer the question?
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Seriouslady wrote:
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What makes you say that?
Like you don't know....yeah whatever!
Packing Heat

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Seriouslady wrote:
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Egggh. I get this yucky, disgusting picture that you may be pleasuring yourself while you make these posts.


That's discusting alright but... that's not a picture you idiot! It is you in the damn mirror you ignorant dolt! Karen, justaminute here (yes, pun intended), who in the hell do you think you are fooling you dumbass? Ray?
Packing Heat

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Cheney on the Loose wrote:
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Did your kids give you a noose for Father's Day?


Did any of your kids live, Karen?
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Oh Hillary.

In the latest black eye for the scandal-ridden State Department, a whistleblower claims she was run out of the foreign service after complaining about a consul general’s alleged office trysts with subordinates and hookers.
Kerry Howard says she was bullied, harassed and forced to resign after she exposed US Consul General Donald Moore’s alleged security-threatening shenanigans in the Naples, Italy, office.
As the post’s community-liaison officer, Howard was charged with keeping workplace peace and advising higher-ups on the state of morale, but when she revealed allegations about her boss, State Department officials swept it under the rug, according to an Equal Employment Opportunity complaint she filed with the department’s Office of Civil Rights.
“It’s cover-up after cover-up. It’s absolutely hideous,” she told The Post.“When our diplomats disrespect the Italians by hiring and firing them because they have seen too much — or use them for ‘sex-ercise’— we have to question why we have diplomats abroad at taxpayer expense.”
Howard is just the latest whistleblower to allege that Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department allowed sexual misbehavior to continue unchecked.
Last week, The Post reported that Aurelia Fedenisn, an investigator at the department’s inspector-general office, wrote a memo outlining eight cases of supposed sexual misconduct, but that they were removed from an IG report.
DoesntMatter

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This is the newest from the Guardian today about the NSA documents. Looks like its leading up to show why the Globe is spying.

http://m.guardiannews.com/uk/2013/jun/16/gchq...
Seriouslady

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Packing Heat wrote:
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That's discusting alright but... that's not a picture you idiot! It is you in the damn mirror you ignorant dolt! Karen, justaminute here (yes, pun intended), who in the hell do you think you are fooling you dumbass? Ray?
BS. You've had a strokefest over WFO since Day One.
Seriouslady

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Zane wrote:
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You don't want to answer the question?
You're not too bright, are you, Zaney?
Seriouslady

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Marcus wrote:
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Like you don't know....yeah whatever!
You really are a sucker if you believe anything Zane and Packing Heat says.
Zane

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Justaminute seriouslady, you keep doing the same things and expect a different outcome and you say I'm not bright, LMAO
DoesntMatter

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And Holly Paz appears

WASHINGTON – An Internal Revenue Service supervisor in Washington says she was personally involved in scrutinizing some of the earliest applications from tea party groups seeking tax-exempt status, including some requests that languished for more than a year without action.
Holly Paz, who until recently was a top deputy in the division that handles applications for tax-exempt status, told congressional investigators she reviewed 20 to 30 applications. Her assertion contradicts initial claims by the agency that a small group of agents working in an office in Cincinnati were solely responsible for mishandling the applications.
Paz, however, provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.
Instead, Paz described an agency in which IRS supervisors in Washington worked closely with agents in the field but didn't fully understand what those agents were doing. Paz said agents in Cincinnati openly talked about handling "tea party" cases, but she thought the term was merely shorthand for all applications from groups that were politically active -- conservative and liberal.
Paz said dozens of tea party applications sat untouched for more than a year while field agents waited for guidance from Washington on how to handle them. At the time, she said, Washington officials thought the agents in Cincinnati were processing the cases.
Paz was among the first IRS employees to be interviewed as part of a joint investigation by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and the House Ways and Means Committee.
Congressional investigators have interviewed at least six IRS employees as part of their inquiry. The Associated Press has reviewed transcripts from three interviews -- with Paz and with two agents, Gary Muthert and Elizabeth Hofacre, from the Cincinnati office.
The IRS declined comment for this story.
A yearlong audit by the agency's inspector general found that IRS agents had improperly targeted conservative political groups for additional and sometimes onerous scrutiny when those groups applied for tax-exempt status.
TAMARA

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Seriouslady wrote:
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What makes you say that?
If you had been around for any length of time you would know what ZANE was referring to. So if you really don't know then either go back and find out or ask nicely and they might tell you. But ZANE did not pull that statement out of thin air.
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I'm not bright,

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